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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/17/2009 1:13:16 AM
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prolifepj
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ORIGINAL: Ariella... Hmm. I have never heard that before. Chocolate is a bean and grows from trees, very similar to coffee. If you can find that scripture it would certainly help. I have never heard of choco dust.
LOL, it's just gotta be in there somewhere, that's my story and I'm stickin to it!
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/17/2009 2:49:47 AM
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It is important to be a label reader. Some things get slipped in there for various reasons. Also, some things are put in that are not required to be on the label. One example is nonpork sausage and hot dogs. These are often stuffed in pork sleeves. Since the steeves are often removed after cooking, they don't have to list them on the package. Chocolate generally uses plant gluttons for solidification, but if it is colored some food colorings come from shellfish. I had a list of suspect manufacturers, but I can't find it at the moment. I try to grow my own vegitables and buy fresh cut or kosher packaged beef. I also prefer to buy whole chicken parts and fish fellets. This is where living in a community is of value. One can gain insight into the local groceries and share strategies for avoiding unclean meats. A big gotcha for the novice is gelitain products, jello, marshmellows, gummi bears, and the like. These are made with desolved animal bones. Some manufacturers don't care where they get the bones from. Don't get overwhelmed and give up. Do your best and continue to study and read labels. Once you get used to looking, it isn't that much more difficult than the standard nutrition and chemical searches that secular sources encourage us to do.
This weeks parasha is double blessing. Sorry, I didn't get in any comments from last weeks study. When it gets hot I take the command for Shabbat rest rather seriously. I nearly overslept havdalah with my nap after Torah study. 
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Torah reading:
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Jeremiah 1:1-2:3
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Gospel reading:
John 18-21
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/17/2009 10:01:08 AM
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A big gotcha for the novice is gelitain products, jello, marshmellows, gummi bears, and the like. These are made with desolved animal bones. Some manufacturers don't care where they get the bones from.
I found this out not too long ago reading a "health magazine" article.
That anything that has "gelatin" in it may contain pork. YIKES!!!!
I ran to the cupboard and looked at my marshmallows and sure enough
"gelatin" is in the mix. And there's no way to know if it's pig, beef, human, etc.
No more marshmallows for me.................LOL
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/17/2009 3:18:14 PM
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You can go to a kosher grocer (or a halal grocer if there is an islamic population) and most will carry kosher non pork marshmallos and gelatins.
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/17/2009 3:59:11 PM
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You can go to a kosher grocer (or a halal grocer if there is an islamic population) and most will carry kosher non pork marshmallos and gelatins.
Years ago, the only ones available in our town were from the Seventh Day Adventists' store.
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/19/2009 3:19:59 AM
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ORIGINAL: Bluethread
There are also tapioca marshmallows. We tend to stock up at Pesach, Safeway has an island sale in the metroarea nearby. It's in the part of town near the conservative synagogue. There is also a mail order company that will deliver furtile nonchemical foods if you can get half a dozen families to pitch in for large enough regular orders.
A lot of names and places in this weeks parasha. However, there were a few interesting things.
Since, Adonai permitted Gad and half of Mennasah to have land beyond the Jordan, does this mean Isreal has a right not only to occupy the "westbank" but also the eastbank and all of northern Jordan?
We also discussed, since we are living in a secular society, what are we to do with Num. 35:31 "Also, you are not to accept a ransom in lieu of the life of murderer condemned to death; rather he must be put to death."? How can we protect ourselves from the murderers, rapests and pedophiles that are allowed to wander around free?
Jeremiah refered to the law against serial adultry to assure us that this is a law for human relations and not our relationship with Him in that regardless of how unfaithful we have been He will take us back, if we return.
Finally, in John 18-21 we saw that pesky timeline of "passion week" issue. We tabled that one.
We also had visitors from that distant Rich-land, 80 miles away. It was a good visit and we discussed Sukkot plans. There are a couple hundred thousand people living there, but the group they are meeting with has no more than ours and they don't know of any others. However, they have facilitites and usually good weather for an inland Sokkot festival. They have gone to Ocean Shores before and liked it very much. However, they prefer to stay closer to home on the Snake River. Maybe this is the start of something big.
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/19/2009 12:04:20 PM
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Since, Adonai permitted Gad and half of Mennasah to have land beyond the Jordan, does this mean Isreal has a right not only to occupy the "westbank" but also the eastbank and all of northern Jordan? Josh 1:3 Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given to you, just as I promised to Moses.
Josh 1:4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon as far as the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites to the Great Sea toward the going down of the sun shall be your territory.
That includes about half of modern day Iraq.
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/20/2009 2:22:38 PM
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Lapidoth
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I stumbled across this.
Judaism Lexicon
LINK
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/20/2009 5:02:54 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
I stumbled across this.
Judaism Lexicon
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Very helpful. Thanks.
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/23/2009 2:19:05 PM
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Since, Adonai permitted Gad and half of Mennasah to have land beyond the Jordan, does this mean Isreal has a right not only to occupy the "westbank" but also the eastbank and all of northern Jordan?Josh 1:3 Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given to you, just as I promised to Moses.
Josh 1:4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon as far as the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites to the Great Sea toward the going down of the sun shall be your territory.
That includes about half of modern day Iraq.
Here's an interesting link http://splitrockresearch.org/content/Welcome/
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/23/2009 5:19:13 PM
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Since, Adonai permitted Gad and half of Mennasah to have land beyond the Jordan, does this mean Isreal has a right not only to occupy the "westbank" but also the eastbank and all of northern Jordan?Josh 1:3 Every place that the sole of your foot will tread upon I have given to you, just as I promised to Moses.
Josh 1:4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon as far as the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites to the Great Sea toward the going down of the sun shall be your territory.
That includes about half of modern day Iraq.
Here's an interesting link http://splitrockresearch.org/content/Welcome/
Hi, I receive the weekly drash from FFOZ and also their monthly calendar. This month they are featuring a book by P P Levertoff who was an early pioneer in the Messianic movement. See Vineyard blog at vineofdavid.org. Anyhow, is there a rabbinic answer man from either the UMJC or MJAA that will take questions from interested persons like myself? Are there Messianic congregations that hold a reasonably high view of liturgy and tradition while still maintaining a genuine faith in Yeshua? I found a resource that makes a distinction between the Hebrew Christians of Levertoff's era to those today and paint a dim picture of the Messianic movement in general. PM may be most beneficial here, but will check back for answers. Thanks. (Drussell52)
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/24/2009 11:17:35 AM
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Lapidoth
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I don't know if this is what you are talking about or not.
But I have always gotten a quick response from tnnonline.net
regarding questions I have. And they seem to be addressing
the problems of the messianic movement of today in their
newsletters.
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/27/2009 8:34:12 PM
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Shalom!
I will be attending Bible study tomorrow with the Jews for Jesus and after the study I will be asking a question about the pope, only to hear their understanding about the Roman Catholic Popes and the popes purpose in the Christian way.
Maybe someone here on Messianic Fellowship could help me find some words to say so I don't go in and say the wrong thing or give a wrong impression when asking about this.
L'Chayim
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/27/2009 11:25:02 PM
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prolifepj
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Abiyah!! I need your compter at home to work too!
Its just not the same when you aren't posting as much!
Hi Peter D- This is a very common question asked of Catholics (I was raised in a very French-Catholic culture), if you ask it in the same manner as you did here, you will likely be understood. There is also a Catholic One Stop Thread that might answer your question.
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/28/2009 7:12:03 PM
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Shalom!
I will be attending Bible study tomorrow with the Jews for Jesus and after the study I will be asking a question about the pope, only to hear their understanding about the Roman Catholic Popes and the popes purpose in the Christian way.
I'll be interested in hearing their response. I have heard that they are distinctly two track, jews should follow HaTorah and gentiles need not. I have also heard that they are not much more than jewish evangelicals.
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/28/2009 7:44:57 PM
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While you are at it, would someone try to get me absolution for calling my dear brother, Blue, a "snot" on another thread?
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/28/2009 7:45:57 PM
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Abiyah!! I need your compter at home to work too!
Its just not the same when you aren't posting as much!
WHINE!
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/29/2009 11:08:48 AM
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Lapidoth
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While you are at it, would someone try to get me absolution for calling my dear brother, Blue, a "snot" on another thread?
Sorry, I missed that. Great, now I have to first go back and find that post so I can be offended. You can be so difficult sometimes.
That's Meshuga.....................lol
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 7/29/2009 4:44:12 PM
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Hi all. Absolution huh, :). For some of us a nice hearty cough may work instead of a wave!! What prompted my question was reading an article describing historic attempts to marry Jewish and Christian worship patterns and this article detailed that by 20th century Rabbinic P P Detertoff who became a believer and entered the Anglican church to promote his Jewish interpretation. The article said unlike then, today evangelicals and Messianics have little regard for Rabbinic tradition or using any formal worship setting i.e. like a Conservative or Reformed synagogue. I listen regularly to Congregation Melech from Toronto and after the sermon is over, hour number 2, they go into the liturgical portion of worship which goes on for another hour or so. If some of you attend MJ congregations and your services are on line, would you PM me the URL so I can note it and listen myself? Or, post the URL here, I use screen reading software so need to hear the whole thing, www etc etc etc..... You folks are great, happy summer Evening! Come visit me at my blog, http:///graftedinandonthejourney.blogspot.com (Drussell52)
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