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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 11/15/2009 7:30:18 PM
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New_Mercies
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ORIGINAL: Ariella...
We can't have candles in our apartment but I was thinking of getting creative with those non-burning candles.
You can also buy electric hanukkiahs, where you can light one bulb a night.
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 11/16/2009 11:17:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ariella...
We can't have candles in our apartment but I was thinking of getting creative with those non-burning candles. Those ones that Glade makes are kinda nice.
On the other hand, I'm still rather new to learning about Hannukkah. Do I want to light while learning or simply just focus on learning? Hmm.
I think it important to know why one celebrates.
Kinda like this generation shooting off fireworks
not knowing one thing about why.
Refusing to assimilate into paganism is pretty
important to know in my realm. That's the one
biggy I learned in the history of Chanuka. We
may not do the rituals each year, but we go over
the history of the customs.
I wish our kids understood freedom and liberty
more than just a week at the lake. LOL
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 11/16/2009 11:21:31 AM
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This is a paper I did on Hanakkuh. Sorry for the length.
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THE FIRST HANUKKAH
It was actually a Sukkot (Tabernacles) Celebration
In addition to the victory parades of the ancient Maccabees that celebrated their political
independence, the original holiday also took the form of a Temple Rededication Ceremony.
In the Second Book of the Maccabees, which quotes from a letter sent circa 125 B.C. from
the Hasmoneans to the leaders of Egyptian Jewry, the holiday is called "The festival of Sukkot
celebrated in the month of Kislev (December)," rather than Tishrei (September). Since the
Jews were still in caves fighting as guerrillas on Tishrei, 164 B.C., they could not properly
honor the eight-day holiday of Sukkot (and Shemini Atzeret), which is a Temple holiday;
hence it was postponed until after the recapture of Jerusalem and the purification of the Temple.
This ----- not the Talmudic legend of the cruse of oil ----- explains the eight day form of Hanukkah.
The use of candles may reflect the later reported tradition of Simchat Beit HaShoava (Water-
drawing Festival), the all-night dancing in the Temple on Sukkot, which required tall outdoor
lamps to flood light on the dance floor of the Temple courtyard.
"They celebrated it for eight days with gladness like Sukkot and recalled how a little while
before, during Sukkot they had been wandering in the mountains and caverns like wild animals.
So carrying lulavs [palm branches waved on Sukkot] . . . they offered hymns of praise [perhaps,
the Hallel prayer] to God who had brought to pass the purification of his own place"
(2 Maccabees 10:6-7).
The connection between Sukkot and Hanukkah (as the Rabbis later called it) goes beyond
the accident of a postponed Sukkot celebration. Sukkot is the holiday commemorating not
only the wandering of the Jews in the desert in makeshift huts but the end of that trek with the
dedication of the First Temple (i.e. the permanent Bayit / Home of God in Jerusalem by King
Solomon circa 1000 B.C.
"King Solomon gathered every person of Israel in the month of Eitahim [Tishrei] on the holiday
[Sukkot] in the seventh month . . . . for God had said, 'I have built a House for my eternal
residence'" (I Kings 8:2, 12).
Thus the Maccabean rededication celebration is appropriately set for eight days in the Temple.
Noam Zion - Director of Hartman Institute's Resource Center for Jewish Continuity
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John 10:22-23 Feast of Dedication in Jerusalem
22. And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.
23. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.
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The holiday originated when Judah the Maccabee and his followers reclaimed the temple in the
village of Modi'in from Syrian King Antiochus IV. The temple was cleansed and prepared for
rededication. The Hebrew word Hanukkah means "dedication."
Under the reign of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, the Syrian Greeks sought to impose their Hellenistic
culture, which many Jews found attractive. By 167 B.C., Antiochus intensified his campaign by
defiling the Temple in Jerusalem and banning Jewish practice. The Maccabees --- led by the
five sons of the priest Mattathias, especially Judah --- waged a three-year campaign that culmi-
nated in the cleaning and rededication of the Temple.
Since they were unable to celebrate the holiday of Sukkot at its proper time in early autumn,
the victorious Maccabees decided that Sukkot should be celebrated once they rededicated
the Temple, which they did on the 25th of the month of Kislev in the year 164 B.C. Since
Sukkot lasts seven days, this became the timeframe adopted for Hanukkah.
About 250 years later, the historian Josephus referred to it as the Festival of Lights and the
holiday is often referred to by the title Josephus gave it.
Approximately 600 years after the events of the Maccabees, legend sprang up in the rabbinical
writings of the miraculous jar of oil that burned for eight days.
Hanukkah is a festival built upon a mound of suppressed memories and censored texts, a
putative celebration of light that in fact commemorates a Jewish civil war. The original story is
the literary expression of a people that had deeply absorbed the language, thought, and values
of Hellenistic civilization. In historical context, Hanukkah is really about a revolt against the
Hellenized Jews who had fallen madly in love with the sophisticated, globalizing superculture
of their day. The battle against Hellenization was in fact a kulturkampf among the Jews them-
selves.
The First Book of the Maccabees describes Jerusalem on the eve of civil war and revolt.
"At that time there were some evil-doers in Israel who tried to win popularity for a policy of
integration with the surrounding nations. It was because the Jews had kept themselves
aloof for so long, they claimed, that so many hardships had befallen them. They acquired
a following and applied to Antiochus, who authorized them to introduce the Greek way of
life. They built a Greek gymnasium in Jerusalem and even had themselves uncircumcised."
Uncircumcision as the price of admission to the Jerusalem gym. When they were eight days
old, the "sign of the covenant" had been carved in their flesh; now as young men, these Jews
risked health and sacrificed sexual pleasure to "become one flesh" with the regnant beauty
culture. In Judea, then, there were Jews choosing to die rather than publicly profane Jewish
law ----- and there were Jews risking death to free themselves from the parochial constraints
of that law. The historic Jewish passion to merge and disappear confronted the attested
Jewish will to stand apart and persist.
Armed Hasmonean priests and their followers from the rural town of Modi'in attacked urban
Jews, priests and laity alike, who supported Greek reform, like the gymnasium and new rules
for governing commerce. The Hasmoneans imposed traditional observance. After years of
warfare, the priests established a Hasmonean state that never ceased fighting Jews who
disagreed with its rule.
The miracle-of-oil celebration that the rabbis later invented covers up a blood-soaked struggle
that pitted Jew against Jew. The history is obliterated by a fairy tale about a light that did
not go out. No one can blame them. No one creates a living monument to a civil war.
The Jews at once succumbed to Greek civilization, forcefully resisted it, and were transformed
by it. The Jews somehow became Greek without ceasing to be Jews, even as light --- the
holiday's metaphor --- somehow becomes matter without ceasing to be energy.
The Maccabean memory inspired the Jewish zealots of 67 to 73 A.D. that led to the destruction
of Jerusalem. It fueled the messianic hopes of Rabbi Akiva and his followers who supported
the [Shimon Bar Kochba] revolt which Rome bloodily smashed in 135 A.D.
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Note: gymnasium
That temple of the human body ----- named by the Greek word for "naked," {gymnos}
became a counterpoint to the Holy Temple where fully clad priests presided over the
ancient cult.
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
BARUCH HABA BASHEM YAHUAH
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RE: Messianic Fellowship - 11/16/2009 11:53:40 AM
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Lapidoth
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How many of us are confused?
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But then I lived a bifurcated life. Who was I? Was I my mother? Was I my
father? Did I celebrate Hanukah or Christmas? Did I prefer Santa and Jesus and Mary or
the bible stories of Moses and Rachel and Sarah that we were reading in Hebrew school?
http://www.mamevemedwed.com/public/pdf/ohlord_ohlourdes_alors.pdf
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
BARUCH HABA BASHEM YAHUAH
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