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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 11:20:36 AM   
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Nope. It's just meant to pass the time with someone you feel you can be completely silly with. I guess it's reassuring in a way that you know you have a real friend with you. That helps with coping more.

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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 11:22:45 AM   
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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 11:28:54 AM   
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I posted this in the bicycle adventure thread but I thought I'd post it here as an encouragement to everyone. I saw this a while ago, and saw it again yesterday. It's not necessary about riding, but it's about DOING life with God. If you're an adventurist, or a cyclist, you'd be able to relate more with the analogy that was used.

A Tandem Ride With God

I used to think of God as my observer, my judge, keeping track of the things I did wrong, so as to know whether I merited heaven or hell when I die. He was out there, sort of like a president. I recognized His picture when I saw it, but I didn't really know Him.

But later on, when I met Jesus, it seemed as though life was rather like a bike, but it was a tandem bike, and I noticed that Jesus was in the back helping me pedal. I didn't know just when it was He suggested we change, but life has not been the same since I took the back-seat to Jesus, my Lord. He makes life exciting. When I had control, I thought I knew the way. It was rather boring, but predictable. It was the shortest distance between two points.

But when He took the lead, He knew delightful long cuts, up mountains, and through rocky places and at break-through speeds; it was all I could do to hang on! Even though it often looked like madness, He said, "Pedal!" I was worried and anxious and asked,"Where are you taking me?" He laughed and didn't answer and I started to learn to trust. I forgot my boring life and entered into adventure. And when I'd say, "I'm scared", He'd lean back and touch
my hand.

He took me to people with gifts that I needed, gifts of healing, acceptance and joy. They gave me their gifts to take on my journey, our journey, my Lord's and mine. And we were off again. He said, "Give the gifts away; they're extra baggage, too much weight." So I did, to the people we met, and I found in giving I received, and still our burden was light.

I did not trust Him, at first, in control of my life. I thought He'd wreck it, but He knows bike secrets, knows how to make it bend to take sharp corners, jump to clear high rocks, fly to shorten scary passages. And I am learning to shut up and pedal in the strangest places, and I'm beginning to enjoy the view and the cool breeze on my face with my delightful constant companion, Jesus.

And when I'm sure I just can't do any more, He just smiles and says... "Pedal." Author Unknown.


< Message edited by Prairiehiker -- 7/19/2008 12:17:28 PM >


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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 11:42:34 AM   
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There is a key aspect of life most people do not understand because 99% of people are not effected by it. That is not having other people or relationships in life. I am not in any hurry or desparate to be married, although I desire it. What I am interested in is forming relationships. I am not asking to be analyzed here, so save your advice. I am merely pointing out something most people are not aware of. The typical single person, even in middle age, has a bunch of relationships so their needs are met. It may be their parents, siblings, children if they are divorced, other relatives or some friends. All of these validate who that person is, even if it is their sister calling to ask you to move some furniture. Contact and communication from others close to you, affirm, validate and nourish who you are. For these people there is no sense or urgency to rush into forming new friendships or relationships because their needs are being met at some level. It is like being inside a cabin next to the fireplace on a bitter winter day - no impetus to move. Other people such as me, who have no family, and friends all have their lives - are like a person outside that cabin in the cold. We the minority, have a definite sense of urgency to move things along when we meet someone - to form friendships.
As I said, being married is not a big priority and I could live without being married. What I do want is to form genuine real relationships but the problem is nearly everyone else has no time or desire. It is like they have an invisible force field that says "I have enough friends and people in my life"
Case in point, just this past week on another Christian dating website, I was contacted by a local woman. She seemed real genuine, decent and of interest. We message back and forth and then spoke by phone for nearly an hour. We both agreed we should meet for a short time to have an initial meeting just to say hi. We live less than 5 miles from each other. I am a flexible easy going accomodating guy. You would think it would be easy to arrange a 1/2 hour walk by the river. This woman could not find the time. Every single day was booked solid for her as if she had the schedule of the President. Finally she emails that "she is not ready for a relationship"
and wants to put things on hold.
This is what shakes my faith in the promises of Jesus. She has children, a big family and so forth. Metaphorically, she is sitting next to that cabin fire. (Just being blunt here) I had no desires of laying claim to her, did NOT appear needy, or desparate, kept the communications lite and amicable and so on. A simple thing like trying to meet a fellow believer to see if a frienship is even possible was even thwarted. It would be foolish to expect to meet someone and burden them down with your problems or expect them to commit to a lifetime relationship 45 seconds after meeting. I do not do that. But when fate/life or whatever does not even orchestrate a simple meeting of someone to see if we could be friends, then I begin to question everything especially the bible verses that say Jesus will meet all your needs and has wonderful plans for you.
If faith, hope and love are the greatest things as said in the new testament with love being the most important - and I earnestly seek to find and share that - Then it seems incongruous, illogical, inconsistent with his word not to allow even a simple platonic friendship for one of his children (me) who is dying on the vine for it. Such a simple hope and expectation of mine for a basic friendship that is consistent with his word is not being fullfilled. It makes me skeptical if promises are valid. Is it any wonder why so many people turn to new-age thought?
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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 12:08:53 PM  1 votes
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As a single, life is generally good. I like being able to do what I am called to do, unhindered, and I like the ability to listen to one Voice whether those around me agree or not (I was a missionary, and plan to return to it, and most people think I am... well... Kuku for it). I can go to places other people can't (no children, etc to pack up or leave behind), don't have to worry about childcare or mealtimes, etc. I can choose to go to Indiana for a weekend with friends without anyone feeling slighted, or leaving family unattended. And it's a nice life.

But I cope with being assumed homosexual (in church, with a married 'girlfriend'); being told I am less than a real person since I am 'alone'; people setting me up with scary people just to make me 'happy'; the simple assumption that I am NOT happy, interestingly enough by those who don't care enough about me to get to know me enough to know whether I am happy or not; and the desire to not do everything "alone", and a desire for children and a happy marraige (of the hundreds of couples I know, there are 3 that make me want to marry)...

I too, am a listener for those who struggle. I have been there, am occasionally there, and have people who listen and help me past them, I want to be there in the same way for others. If I see you 'wallowing' and 'whining', I may have a few words for you, but a single who has never been married, they will come in the form of a hand on the shoulder, not a kick in the pants.
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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 12:33:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: swrundeep

There is a key aspect of life most people do not understand because 99% of people are not effected by it. That is not having other people or relationships in life. I am not in any hurry or desparate to be married, although I desire it. What I am interested in is forming relationships. I am not asking to be analyzed here, so save your advice. I am merely pointing out something most people are not aware of. The typical single person, even in middle age, has a bunch of relationships so their needs are met. It may be their parents, siblings, children if they are divorced, other relatives or some friends. All of these validate who that person is, even if it is their sister calling to ask you to move some furniture. Contact and communication from others close to you, affirm, validate and nourish who you are. For these people there is no sense or urgency to rush into forming new friendships or relationships because their needs are being met at some level. It is like being inside a cabin next to the fireplace on a bitter winter day - no impetus to move. Other people such as me, who have no family, and friends all have their lives - are like a person outside that cabin in the cold. We the minority, have a definite sense of urgency to move things along when we meet someone - to form friendships.
As I said, being married is not a big priority and I could live without being married. What I do want is to form genuine real relationships but the problem is nearly everyone else has no time or desire. It is like they have an invisible force field that says "I have enough friends and people in my life"
Case in point, just this past week on another Christian dating website, I was contacted by a local woman. She seemed real genuine, decent and of interest. We message back and forth and then spoke by phone for nearly an hour. We both agreed we should meet for a short time to have an initial meeting just to say hi. We live less than 5 miles from each other. I am a flexible easy going accomodating guy. You would think it would be easy to arrange a 1/2 hour walk by the river. This woman could not find the time. Every single day was booked solid for her as if she had the schedule of the President. Finally she emails that "she is not ready for a relationship"
and wants to put things on hold.
This is what shakes my faith in the promises of Jesus. She has children, a big family and so forth. Metaphorically, she is sitting next to that cabin fire. (Just being blunt here) I had no desires of laying claim to her, did NOT appear needy, or desparate, kept the communications lite and amicable and so on. A simple thing like trying to meet a fellow believer to see if a frienship is even possible was even thwarted. It would be foolish to expect to meet someone and burden them down with your problems or expect them to commit to a lifetime relationship 45 seconds after meeting. I do not do that. But when fate/life or whatever does not even orchestrate a simple meeting of someone to see if we could be friends, then I begin to question everything especially the bible verses that say Jesus will meet all your needs and has wonderful plans for you.
If faith, hope and love are the greatest things as said in the new testament with love being the most important - and I earnestly seek to find and share that - Then it seems incongruous, illogical, inconsistent with his word not to allow even a simple platonic friendship for one of his children (me) who is dying on the vine for it. Such a simple hope and expectation of mine for a basic friendship that is consistent with his word is not being fullfilled. It makes me skeptical if promises are valid. Is it any wonder why so many people turn to new-age thought?

SW, I understand. I've been there. I'm still there at times. That's why I learned to "cope" by being friendly and extending a hand to most people. I meet people along the way everywhere I go and I have no expectations or agenda. I'm just grateful for the time, however short or long may be, that I connected with another human being at any level possible. If they turn into real friendships, then great. If not, then God bless us both.

And about that woman you were talking about? Sorry to hear that.

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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 12:36:57 PM   
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Thank you Choir DJ, you are one of the only ones here that understands where I'm coming from here. And when you talk about "the woes of being single and wallow in it and the pity that goes with it," it is no good because it is grounds for Satan (And I'm sorry if it is offensive to some) to invade your thought life and other things which are not christ like...Last night I wanted to leave these fourms and the singles especially because of one post this brother posted that I felt in other words, I don't need your encouragment because what you said was judgemental. There were also a few other people who said that also. It makes me feel that I'm the enemy here and I'm not that at all. I'm not a stranger like this indivisual said, but a fellow sister in Christ who went through and still going through things too, but in a different mindset and not letting those conditions rule her.


Hello Gayle...I can certainly understand how you feel this way and I'd being lying if I said there weren't times I had thought about leaving the board as well. One of the things I've noticed (and this is especially true of those who post here regularly) is that we all have "off" days and we post things that miss the mark. It just happens from time to time. I've posted things that I have gone back and read and thought "what was I thinking? I must have been out to lunch that day" but I was probably having an "off" day. I don't think anyone here intentionally says things to be harsh or offensive but it's so easy to be misunderstood. We are communicating in one dimension here so people can't see our tone or body language as we post. The only thing they have to go on is "what's written" and sometimes "what's written" is taken in a way we never intended for it to be. When something doesn't come across the right way, I'm learning to step back, be a little more gracious and ask for clarification before responding to the post.

Anyways, those are just my thoughts.

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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 7:01:39 PM   
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Hi Swrundeep,

I'm one of the minority as you described. I have been so desperate to find genuine friendship for a long time now, and I still do. I don't have any relatives, and most of my friends are at superficial level. You exactly said the point that it seems that majority just have too many friends, that they don't have any desire to make some new ones. Even this is not so, a lot of them are so contend with superficial friendship, just to get together for fun, eat and drink. If you happen to share with them something deeper, they will tend to put up their guard and then stay away since then. It's even sad that this scenario happens within my circle of Christian friends most of the time. Instead I do get more encouragement, and they won't back off (at least, change of facial expression in front of you), and they will still treat you with no difference (no attempt of avoiding you) next time I see them, from my non-Christian friends.

This is so sad as it's not supposed to that way, and it happens so often in church (the body of Christ). But not to give up, as I keep telling myself, I don't want to be cornered and be forced to say I give up. If I will ever say that, it'll mean I will completely give up on life. Life without hope is not life at all. I just keep myself being genuine, and act according to what Jesus wanted us to act, and just keep doing it, without any expectation. If anybody who doesn't treasure my genuineness, or have no desire to get know of me more, I'll move on. I'll refuse to let myself dwelling on this, as this is not a relationship I'm looking for. Even if I force it, it won't turn out what I want.

This world is so corrupted with selfishness and superficiality. But I believe God wants us to carry out His act. If we don't do it ourselves, how can we expect other brothers and sisters to do it. It's very difficult to feel not validated. Therefore I keep reminding myself, I do it not to let others to validate me, I do it just to please God, and be validated by Him. This is the belief which keeps me going, and refuse to stop and decide to give up. It's not easy. It's a conscious decision everyday. But please not to give up. We are part of God's plan, and He needs us to carry out His plan.

Hope what I said makes sense, and keep you encouraged too,
Do take care & God Bless,
Rivermoon. :-)


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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 7:42:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rivermoon

Hi Swrundeep,

I'm one of the minority as you described. I have been so desperate to find genuine friendship for a long time now, and I still do. I don't have any relatives, and most of my friends are at superficial level. You exactly said the point that it seems that majority just have too many friends, that they don't have any desire to make some new ones. Even this is not so, a lot of them are so contend with superficial friendship, just to get together for fun, eat and drink. If you happen to share with them something deeper, they will tend to put up their guard and then stay away since then. It's even sad that this scenario happens within my circle of Christian friends most of the time. Instead I do get more encouragement, and they won't back off (at least, change of facial expression in front of you), and they will still treat you with no difference (no attempt of avoiding you) next time I see them, from my non-Christian friends.

This is so sad as it's not supposed to that way, and it happens so often in church (the body of Christ). But not to give up, as I keep telling myself, I don't want to be cornered and be forced to say I give up. If I will ever say that, it'll mean I will completely give up on life. Life without hope is not life at all. I just keep myself being genuine, and act according to what Jesus wanted us to act, and just keep doing it, without any expectation. If anybody who doesn't treasure my genuineness, or have no desire to get know of me more, I'll move on. I'll refuse to let myself dwelling on this, as this is not a relationship I'm looking for. Even if I force it, it won't turn out what I want.
This world is so corrupted with selfishness and superficiality. But I believe God wants us to carry out His act. If we don't do it ourselves, how can we expect other brothers and sisters to do it. It's very difficult to feel not validated. Therefore I keep reminding myself, I do it not to let others to validate me, I do it just to please God, and be validated by Him. This is the belief which keeps me going, and refuse to stop and decide to give up. It's not easy. It's a conscious decision everyday. But please not to give up. We are part of God's plan, and He needs us to carry out His plan.

Hope what I said makes sense, and keep you encouraged too,
Do take care & God Bless,
Rivermoon. :-)



Even though I have been married before, have 4 wonderful children, live across the street from my parents and have a few friends with whom I can share deep things, I have to say that I still feel this loneliness sometimes.

I move on if someone doesn't appreciate my genuineness or reciprocate my friendliness...I've learned that it's not worth the trouble: these people will never reach a point of really solidifying a friendship in spite of all their words to the contrary.

I'm sorry for those of you who do not have family, I really am. But I just wanted to make the point that there are those of us who have that who would still value another reciprocating friendship. So don't give up.

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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 8:11:51 PM   
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I've been out of touch for a while and getting caught up on what I've been missing and I got to say that some of you all don't go anywhere without both barrels loaded do you?
I won't get involved with that so I'll just respond to the original question.

I cope pretty well most of the time and during those times when I'm feeling particularly lonely or sorry for myself, I saddle up and go riding. Getting out away from everything reminds me of how lonely things could really be.

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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 8:14:42 PM   
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Welcome back, Eric! I think if we all stopped and thought about it - we'd find something that we could do to remind ourselves of how truly lonely we could be.

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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 11:26:35 PM   
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Prairiehiker, Rivermoon and others - I want to thank you for your encouraging statements. This helps me cope.
I remember a psychologist saying once that the single most beneficial thing that aids people is when they hear others experience the same situation. Here is hoping we all find our needs met.
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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/19/2008 11:59:17 PM   
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Some of these posts I find downright insensitive and mean.

There is nothing wrong with saying, "Hey, I want to be with someone." If your desire is that strong, you're not the only one who put it in your heart - God had something to do with that. Otherwise, after a time of not getting what you want, you would move on to a new thing to conquer or control.

Honesty starts with self - that starts the path to recognizing ways in which you can alter your circumstances, with the help of God, of course.
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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/20/2008 12:00:46 PM   
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So, no . . . I not "coping" with being single.
It's simply an aspect of who I am.

And to go further, I enjoy being single.


That's exactly what I'm doing.
I'm not so much coping with being single.
I'm not scared to be in a relationship. Heck, I just had a boyfriend a month ago. And now, I'm single again.
But that just shows that I'm not scared to be in relationships.
But I enjoy being single. Of course, I get lonely at times & thats when I go out and chill with friends.

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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/20/2008 1:40:07 PM   
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The value of spiritual friendships

I didn't go to church today. When I don't go, I usually listen to a podcast by my old pastor who is now a pastor somewhere else.

Anyway, this podcast is so uplifting to those of us who admitted to those coping with singleness or longing for real friendship. He said that just because we're lonely doesn't mean we're dysfunctional. It doesn't mean we're in sin, or we're broken people. It's a very good podcasts. He started with creation, then went into Acts about how God views friendships/relationships. He even gave some pointers and advice on how to deal with this longing. It's truly a blessing, and very uplifting.

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RE: "Coping" with Singleness? - 7/21/2008 6:05:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: swrundeep

There is a key aspect of life most people do not understand because 99% of people are not effected by it. That is not having other people or relationships in life. I am not in any hurry or desparate to be married, although I desire it. What I am interested in is forming relationships. I am not asking to be analyzed here, so save your advice. I am merely pointing out something most people are not aware of. The typical single person, even in middle age, has a bunch of relationships so their needs are met. It may be their parents, siblings, children if they are divorced, other relatives or some friends. All of these validate who that person is, even if it is their sister calling to ask you to move some furniture. Contact and communication from others close to you, affirm, validate and nourish who you are. For these people there is no sense or urgency to rush into forming new friendships or relationships because their needs are being met at some level. It is like being inside a cabin next to the fireplace on a bitter winter day - no impetus to move. Other people such as me, who have no family, and friends all have their lives - are like a person outside that cabin in the cold. We the minority, have a definite sense of urgency to move things along when we meet someone - to form friendships.
As I said, being married is not a big priority and I could live without being married. What I do want is to form genuine real relationships but the problem is nearly everyone else has no time or desire. It is like they have an invisible force field that says "I have enough friends and people in my life"
Case in point, just this past week on another Christian dating website, I was contacted by a local woman. She seemed real genuine, decent and of interest. We message back and forth and then spoke by phone for nearly an hour. We both agreed we should meet for a short time to have an initial meeting just to say hi. We live less than 5 miles from each other. I am a flexible easy going accomodating guy. You would think it would be easy to arrange a 1/2 hour walk by the river. This woman could not find the time. Every single day was booked solid for her as if she had the schedule of the President. Finally she emails that "she is not ready for a relationship"
and wants to put things on hold.
This is what shakes my faith in the promises of Jesus. She has children, a big family and so forth. Metaphorically, she is sitting next to that cabin fire. (Just being blunt here) I had no desires of laying claim to her, did NOT appear needy, or desparate, kept the communications lite and amicable and so on. A simple thing like trying to meet a fellow believer to see if a frienship is even possible was even thwarted. It would be foolish to expect to meet someone and burden them down with your problems or expect them to commit to a lifetime relationship 45 seconds after meeting. I do not do that. But when fate/life or whatever does not even orchestrate a simple meeting of someone to see if we could be friends, then I begin to question everything especially the bible verses that say Jesus will meet all your needs and has wonderful plans for you.
If faith, hope and love are the greatest things as said in the new testament with love being the most important - and I earnestly seek to find and share that - Then it seems incongruous, illogical, inconsistent with his word not to allow even a simple platonic friendship for one of his children (me) who is dying on the vine for it. Such a simple hope and expectation of mine for a basic friendship that is consistent with his word is not being fullfilled. It makes me skeptical if promises are valid. Is it any wonder why so many people turn to new-age thought?


I thought I was the only one. Thank you for posting this.

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