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RE: a baby or infant died ,does he will save or not ?... - 12/11/2008 1:35:34 PM
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tacitus
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The "age of accountability" theory is fraught with problems. Imagine two young boys from Muslim families at around their age of accountability playing in a river in, say, a remote region of Arabia long before any Christian missionary set foot in the area. That morning one of the boys took a chunk of bread from the breakfast table without asking and was sternly lectured by his Muslim mother about right and wrong, and the importance of behaving in a moral fashion. For the first time, the boy begins to understand that it is wrong to take things without asking. But on his was out of the house, he notices a piece of dried fruit that he knows was put aside for his younger sister but, still hungry, he takes it anyway, despite what his mother just told him.
A few hours later, the two boys playing in the river are swept away in a flash flood and are killed. The first boy, still unaccountable, goes to Heaven, but the other boy, the one whose mother had just lectured is deemed to be accountable for his sins but is no older and no wiser than the first boy is sent to Hell to endure an eternity of unimaginable torture and agonies. All because he had received and understood his first childhood lesson on morality.
It's not that he wasn't more accountable. Older kids in families often learn the hard way that they are to be held more accountable than their younger sisters and brothers, as most of us have experienced at one time or another. No, it's the extreme binary form of punishment that results from that tiny bit of extra accountability. All the little boy did was take a bit of dried fruit that didn't belong to him, a transgression that deserves a scolding, yes, but does it really deserve an eternity of the worst pain and suffering and torture one can imagine in the Lake of Fire? Any government commanding that young children should be flogged continually for 24 hours straight for stealing something worth pennies would be rightfully condemned by all Christians as being barbaric in the extreme, yet that doesn't even come close to the suffering supposedly inflicted on the boy when he gets to Hell.
There are other problems with this age of accountability destination switch from Heaven to Hell. What if the mother of the boy is secretly a Christian, but she is on her deathbed, knowing she only has a day or two left before she dies? She knows that there is almost no chance her son will be saved since her husband is a fundamentalist Muslim, as are the rest of her extended family. She knows it is a sin, but she cannot abide the thought of her son spending an eternity in Hell which is surely his fate if he grows up in the family. So she decides to kill him before the age of accountability, sacrificing her soul so that he might spend eternity in Heaven. She also kills his younger sister for the same reason. Given that the children are trading a few decades of uncertain life on Earth and an agonizing eternity in Hell for a certain blissful eternity in Heaven, what mother in that position wouldn't want to sacrifice themselves for their children's future. Many have given their lives for far less.
Even worse, if the age of accountability is real, abortionists are responsible for saving millions of people from the fires of Hell. Assuming the number of abortions conducted in the USA is now around 45 million, that's 45 million souls who are now in Heaven. What if abortion had been banned all this time? How many of those 45 million would go to Hell once they died? 20 million? 30 million? 35 million? Who knows, but if there really is an age of accountability, then the unavoidable conclusion is that abortionists are amongst the greatest savers of souls from Hell the world has ever known.
I don't pretend to know the right answer, but I don't believe the age of accountability is it.
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RE: a baby or infant died ,does he will save or not ?... - 1/24/2009 9:16:10 PM
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Kath
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The Immaculate Conception has been brought up several times in this thread.
The Immaculate Conception is, according to the RCC, the conception of the Virgin Mary without any stain of original sin. If you wish to discuss it further you'd need to head over to the Catholic Threads.
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