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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/13/2009 12:38:47 AM   
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Glad you had a good day.
I wonder what it is about yoghurt and not other dairy that gives him the runs?

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/13/2009 6:47:20 AM   
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How soon after the yogurt is he getting the runs? And is it plain yogurt or flavoured? It's just unusual for yogurt to be a problem and not milk, it's usually either all dairy or milk rather than yogurt that is the problem.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/13/2009 10:25:55 AM   
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I know, it's weird. It's flavored yogurt (so far with vanilla, strawberry, and peach) and it's usually within a few hours of eating the yogurt that he has a watery explosion in his diaper that leaves his little rear red with welts. I haven't really noticed it since I started giving him regular milk, though. Just the yogurt. His stool did change with the milk, and became less firm, but nothing like what happens when he eats yogurt.

I don't really get it either. Dairy hurts my stomach, too, so I only eat it a little at a time, and I don't drink milk or eat (too much) ice cream for just that same reason.

Today has been a little rougher. I'm sick and he's of course he's getting better so he was up very early and so he ate breakfast at 6:30 and a snack a little bit ago, but both times he pretty much refused his milk from the sippy and preferred water instead. He went to bed a few minutes ago and fussed a good 5 or 10 minutes but is now sleeping. I would usually be out taking a walk right about now, but there is no way I can go out with this headache (I've had it for two days now) and he was whining and screaming and hitting, so I just put him to bed.

We'll see how it goes. I know he doesn't feel very good and he's still running a fever, so letting him take an early nap might not be a bad thing today. . . for all of us!

But, still no bottle, so I'm grateful :)

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/13/2009 12:44:20 PM   
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It might help his bottom to put a good layer of diaper rash cream on him before he has those "explosion" diapers after eating yogurt...that might help him not get a rash.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/13/2009 4:12:39 PM   
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As for the bowl...break up the pieces into appropriate sized pieces for him then let him have the bowl...then you are still in charge but he has some control too. Then when he dumps the bowl (and let's face it, he will) you can help him pick it back up.


We do this, and we have some of THESE nifty bowls, we mostly use them in the car but they are also good for giving freedom and preventing spills.

I'm surprised at that reaction to the yogurt and would almost wonder if it's an additive in the yogurt that's causing the problems and not the yogurt itself. Although the probiotics in it can sometimes do that if there is an underlying issue.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/13/2009 4:16:52 PM   
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Ryanne...that link goes to ToysRUs games.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/13/2009 4:29:40 PM   
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Ryanne...that link goes to ToysRUs games.


Weird, it works fine for me.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/13/2009 5:42:52 PM   
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I know, it's weird. It's flavored yogurt (so far with vanilla, strawberry, and peach) and it's usually within a few hours of eating the yogurt that he has a watery explosion in his diaper that leaves his little rear red with welts.



I was thinking the same as Ryanne, that it could be an additive in the yogurt. What does it say under ingredients? And have you ever tried him with just plain natural yogurt (and I don't mean vanilla, just plain natural, with no flavouring added)?

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/13/2009 6:08:20 PM   
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Jenn have you asked your doctor about the yoghurt thing? Have you tried him on custard? you could stop the yoghurt and try him on custard and see if its the same effect. Was he getting cows milk the same time you started yoghurt?

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/14/2009 12:33:28 PM   
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We gave him milk after we tried the yogurt. I think you may be right about it being an additive in the yogurt, not the yogurt itself. He's had milk in the days since I gave the yogurt with no problems other than the color of his stool being different, along with the consistency. Nothing out of the ordinary, though, from what I remember. I think he wouldn't like the plain yogurt - it tastes a bit like sour cream to me, not very good. But, I am new to healthy foods like this, so maybe I could add my own fruit to it?

My husband and I are making changes one at a time in our household as far as our eating habits goes, so we were careful to make sure the yogurt didn't have any artificial colors or flavors in it. It's not organic (too expensive for our budget) but it says no artificial anything, so maybe it is the probiotics. I don't know.

The funny thing is that he really isn't drinking his milk all of a sudden. He acts like he doesn't care for it after a few sips. I give him the water and he gulps it down, but not the milk. I mean, he drinks enough that I'm satisfied he's getting at least 12 oz or so, but he seems to only want to drink a small amount and then he's off into something else until the next meal. I'm guessing that's ok because he's eating his table food like a champ!

Last night he went to bed and I tried giving him a binky (pacifier) instead of the bottle of water. I watched him for a while from the doorway and he chewed on the binky for a bit and then pulled his blanket up to his neck and went to sleep! I went up when he woke up this morning (at 9am Halelujah!!!) and he had thrown all the binkys to the floor so I'm not too concerned that he will suck on them, I think he just wants something to gnaw on while he falls asleep.

All in all, not too shabby a night!

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/14/2009 12:57:12 PM   
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We gave him milk after we tried the yogurt. I think you may be right about it being an additive in the yogurt, not the yogurt itself. He's had milk in the days since I gave the yogurt with no problems other than the color of his stool being different, along with the consistency. Nothing out of the ordinary, though, from what I remember. I think he wouldn't like the plain yogurt - it tastes a bit like sour cream to me, not very good. But, I am new to healthy foods like this, so maybe I could add my own fruit to it?



I used to give mine plain natural yogurt with a little apple puree in it.

Have you got any of the yogurt there - if so, maybe you could list the ingredients for us to have a look at?

If he's drinking less milk, it might be an idea to make sure he's getting his calcium in other ways - eg cheese, dried apricots (more here)

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/16/2009 5:39:28 PM   
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Nicole, I don't know if we have custard here, or not. I'm pretty new to all of that, and I have only dealt with the usual - yogurt, cottage cheese, cheese, pudding, etc. I'm not sure what custard is, other than in pie. . .yummmy.

Well, he doesn't seem to like milk very much, and he drinks it only when he's eating and really thirsty. I asked the doc, and he thinks I should try the plain with some fruit puree in it, or blended with fruit like apples, pears, peaches, etc. Since it's obviously not happening with regular milk, he thinks it's something in the yogurt and not the yogurt itself. Or, in other words. . . what Manda said.

He is waking up in the middle of the night, crying. Two of the past three nights he put himself back to sleep within 5 minutes. Last night I had to go pick him up and he was screaming so I checked him and he was really warm and chewing on his fingers so I gave him some tylenol and rocked him back to sleep where he slept happily until I had to wake him up to take dh to work this morning.

He really doesn't like being put to bed without a bottle, but he usually only cries (the same cry he gives when he's not getting his way at other times of the day by the way) for a few minutes, 5 or 10 tops, and then he's out like a light.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/16/2009 7:27:50 PM   
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He is waking up in the middle of the night, crying. Two of the past three nights he put himself back to sleep within 5 minutes. Last night I had to go pick him up and he was screaming so I checked him and he was really warm and chewing on his fingers so I gave him some tylenol and rocked him back to sleep where he slept happily until I had to wake him up to take dh to work this morning.

How many teeth does he have, Jenn?
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He really doesn't like being put to bed without a bottle, but he usually only cries (the same cry he gives when he's not getting his way at other times of the day by the way) for a few minutes, 5 or 10 tops, and then he's out like a light.

You're doing really well - you must be so pleased!!

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/16/2009 9:04:59 PM   
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The kind of custard I'm familiar with is made by adding a powder to milk boiling it, then chilling it, and it gets thick. You can vary how thick by how much powder you use. It's basically like 'cooked' style pudding. There is probably a way to make it from scratch, maybe involving eggs. The powder-and-milk style can be done easily in the microwave, and my mom likes to add jam for extra flavour and sweetness.

I'm in Canada, and I can get the powder in the baking section of most grocery stores -- near the puddings and pie fillings. It's probably an ecconomical alternative to yogurt (since yogurt is getting really expensive around here) if all you are looking for is a milk serving that's appealing and a child can do with a spoon. (Home made cooked pudding is also an ecconomical way to accomplish that too -- it's only milk, sugar, cornstarch and whatever flavour you choose)
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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/16/2009 9:17:29 PM   
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Manda he has 8 teeth already (all the front teeth) and he's got huge bubbles where his first molars are coming in. They look kind of gross, and they are dark black/red colored - the doc says he's been gnawing on them and has gotten a bit of blood trapped under the gums. They should come through any time, or at least I'm hoping so

Pam, I am going to look for that the next time I am at the grocery store. I am not really familiar with custard, like I said, except for pies, and if I can find that I'd be thrilled to try it. I'll check it out when I go this week. He's actually still up and running a fever and has a runny nose. I'm going to go see if he'll go to sleep - I gave him Motrin this time (doc said to try it instead of tylenol) and we'll see how it goes!

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 1:49:21 AM   
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Um, I probably wouldn't give him custard instead of yogurt. It's most likely full of sugar... although so is flavored yogurt, I guess. We don't eat that either. Just plain yogurt with a little Agave and some fresh fruit.

Pam, do you ever feel like a narrator? I have realized from reading this thread how much I tell DD about what we are doing, I really do sound like a narrator some days, lol.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 6:15:17 AM   
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I'm with Ryanne, I wouldn't give him custard either, because of the high sugar content. IMO also, plain yogurt with fruit, or fromage frais (if you have that there) is the way I'd go (and went!)

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 9:21:12 AM   
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Yeah, I wasn't sure about the sugar content of custard powder... but every-day yogurt is high too. Come to think of it, perhaps that's what the issue is with the yogurt -- just the hit of sugar he might be sensitive to (isn't corn syrup an old fashoined way to relieve constipation?)

I don't tend to narrate everything, but more wait for questions etc. from my girls. I narrate mostly in situations where I'm training-towards a goal, or in high stress situations.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 9:39:58 AM   
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Yeah, I wasn't sure about the sugar content of custard powder... but every-day yogurt is high too. Come to think of it, perhaps that's what the issue is with the yogurt -- just the hit of sugar he might be sensitive to



Some flavoured yogurts contain sugar, but natural yogurt doesn't (shouldn't) contain any added sugar, which is why I recommended it.

Custard on the other hand is rather sugary, and refined sugar at that.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 9:50:26 AM   
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Come to think of it, perhaps that's what the issue is with the yogurt -- just the hit of sugar he might be sensitive to (isn't corn syrup an old fashoined way to relieve constipation?)



If the yogurt is sweetened with corn syrup, then that could be exactly the reason why it upsets his stomach, since corn syrup can cause indigestion and diarrhoea.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 9:56:23 AM   
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I narrate mostly in situations where I'm training-towards a goal, or in high stress situations.


Oh, me too! But it seems lately like everything has been that way. I think it's just the age right now.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 10:01:10 AM   
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Manda he has 8 teeth already (all the front teeth) and he's got huge bubbles where his first molars are coming in. They look kind of gross, and they are dark black/red colored - the doc says he's been gnawing on them and has gotten a bit of blood trapped under the gums. They should come through any time, or at least I'm hoping so



Sounds like that's the reason he's waking at night.

How do you feel about trying homepathic remedies for teething?

I'd also recommend you try giving him cooled weak camomile tea to drink - that might help settle him as well.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 11:17:56 AM   
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Ahhhh, so it is the same custard I was thinking of. I will hold off on that as he already really likes sugar way too much!

I think you are all right about the high sugar content of the yogurt, as well as corn syrup. I checked the label, and among about a million other ingredients I can't pronounce (this is supposed to be all natural yogurt) the second ingredient is corn syrup. My grandmother used to swear by it as a relief to constipation, so well, I can say it works like a charm, especially with the added boost of the probiotics in the yogurt.

SO, we are going to switch to plain yogurt with unsweetened baby applesauce (doc's recommendation) since it's smooth and pretty much just apple puree. Of course, I have a ton of apples and can make my own the next time I'm feeling ambitious. Doesn't happen too often these days, though, I'm afraid.

He still hasn't gotten those teeth in, but this morning he is running a fever and has a nasty runny nose. Plus he is really miserable. He's been screaming all morning every time my dh or I would tell him "NO". This is going to be a fun day, since he's had his first time-out already.

He had to take a nap early - neither one of us could bear him any longer. He laid down in his crib, pulled up his covers, and closed his eyes - I'm so excited!!!

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 11:26:17 AM   
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Are you giving him anything for the cold symptoms, the teething symptoms or the fever?

It's great that he seems to know he needs sleep, though.

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RE: "Controlled Crying" - 6/17/2009 11:28:37 AM   
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Pam,

Just noticed the name change! Are you a fan of the movie or something?!!

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