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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/22/2008 5:07:03 PM
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Jhud
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This is a rather old story; and it appears to be the stupid plot of a couple of meth heads who never actually posed credible threat to Obama before they practically gave themselves up.
I am sure there are evil people out there plotting evil things, but these guys are mostly stupid.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/22/2008 5:12:45 PM
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This is a rather old story; and it appears to be the stupid plot of a couple of meth heads who never actually posed credible threat to Obama before they practically gave themselves up.
I am sure there are evil people out there plotting evil things, but these guys are mostly stupid.
I know that this article is older. I even stated that this happened back in August. I wouldn't say its rather old since it happened back in August and its still Oct. You act as if this article was like five years old. How many other meth heads are out there cookin' up a plot to kill Obama? We will never know.
Anywho, this is a clear example of people who wanted to kill Obama. THe other lady asked for an example and I provided her with an example.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/22/2008 5:15:05 PM
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Meanwhile, one of McCain's campaign buses actually was hit by gunfire. One window was shot out apparently by a .22 caliber weapon, and it had also been hit by an unknown number of paintball rounds. Neither McCain nor Palin were aboard.
Link here.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/22/2008 5:20:12 PM
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steph381
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Meanwhile, one of McCain's campaign buses actually was hit by gunfire. One window was shot out apparently by a .22 caliber weapon, and it had also been hit by an unknown number of paintball rounds. Neither McCain nor Palin were aboard.
Link here.
-Robb
If this happened, I'm happy no one was hurt. Like I have been saying all along, there is crazy people supporting both candidates. I looked for more articles about this and I'm coming up empty handed. Here's what I'm finding:
Secret Service cannot confirm citizen report of gunfire on McCain bus
October 21st, 2008
I spoke with the Secret Service agent in charge of the investigation. They cannot confirm the citizen report of gunfire hitting the McCain bus (McCain was not on board) although I seriously doubt that they would advertise it if true. Given the current volatile atmosphere of hate and division being stirred and exploited by the unholy Left I would expect that such an incident would not exactly be reported in a press release.
That said, we have a good relationship with the Men in Black, including an off the record relationship with some and I am not inclined to question their word.
Since first reporting the citizen account I (and others) have been busy chasing the story down and so far have not been able to debunk or confirm the story. Several bloggers and one traditional media have also been chasing the story down and have come up empty.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/22/2008 6:44:28 PM
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LoyalGypsy
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I am sure there are evil people out there plotting evil things, but these guys are mostly stupid.
You mean the new wave of the American voter
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/22/2008 11:01:58 PM
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Obama would not need a crisis to shred the Bill of Rights. I think he's quite capable of doing that on his own.
I think the thing I have found to be most disconcerting is that the Vice Presidential nominee is saying that we need to brace ourselves when his ticket gets elected, because something very bad will happen to test him right away.
Joe Biden's statement is a wonderful commercial on why not to vote for Obama.
Even Joe knows 0's not fit to serve as CiC.
Of course he does. He said that Obama was denying our troops life saving equipment by holding up military spending. Specifically he blamed him for reconditioned humvees that deflected IEDs.
Then he said of Obama that the White House is not for on the job training.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 3:01:09 AM
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There are several youtube videos, including someone shouting kill him, bomb him etc. The point I'm trying to make that no matter who wins somebody would be mad. Some supporters on both sides are pretty guilty of saying harsh things.
Maybe I misunderstood you but it sounded like you agreed with what many of the people posting the videos are saying. That McCain is inciting them. That they are on McCain's side. Just because they are against Obama does not make them for McCain. Or that it means that McCain agrees with them. But like I said maybe I misunderstood.
from the article you quoted
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It is thought the men may have ties to Sons of Silence, an outlaw biker group, with suspected connections with white supremacists. However, federal sources have said that the incident may have had more to do with drugs than with a plot to assassinate Mr Obama, despite local police claims.
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Mr Obama has been under Secret Service protection for over a year after receiving credible death threats.
That is sad,very sad - I disagree with his policies and beliefs but that is a horrible thing. The idea is awful. But the media is trying to connect McCain to that idea. And I think that is wrong. Why can't they say its just some sickness from individuals not the McCain campaign- instead of presupposing McCain is encouraging this. I mean I have watched the videos of the rallys. I cannot understand what they are saying. How would John McCain?
The same could be said of he rioting.
Just like its some sickness from individuals who are threatening to riot- I mean I don't jump to a conclusion its supporters of Obama - its just sickness from individuals who think that will solve the problem.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 5:38:23 PM
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you guys have taken things out of context! Today i heard the WHOLE speech on tv.
Biden did say those things, but he also said "And Obama has the spine of steel to be able to handle it"
THAT CHANGES THINGS DOESN';T IT? the Republicans have run off with half the whole story and the part that changes the whole meaning of what Biden said.
That is slander and more stupid republican tricks to elect mccain who is LOSING according to the polls.
And you all believe it!!!
at least believe the truth, not a lie. you can hate obama because of a truth, but this is a ridiculous lie.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 5:40:43 PM
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THAT CHANGES THINGS DOESN';T IT? the Republicans have run off with half the whole story and the part that changes the whole meaning of what Biden said.
No it doesn't change that he is telling us that he believes, for whatever reason, that there will be a major event after Obama is elected and he will do unpopular things to handle it.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 5:51:41 PM
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are you talking about this speech? Could you provide a link to what you saw/heard?
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 5:59:18 PM
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LoyalGypsy
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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN
you guys have taken things out of context! Today i heard the WHOLE speech on tv.
Biden did say those things, but he also said "And Obama has the spine of steel to be able to handle it"
THAT CHANGES THINGS DOESN';T IT? the Republicans have run off with half the whole story and the part that changes the whole meaning of what Biden said.
That is slander and more stupid republican tricks to elect mccain who is LOSING according to the polls.
And you all believe it!!!
at least believe the truth, not a lie. you can hate obama because of a truth, but this is a ridiculous lie.
But in the word of God giving light to the curse in the first part of a sentence kills the blessing 
Moses in Deuteronomy 11 called it "the way I command you, so words are a commandment and giving light to the cures first kills the blessing
Speak the blessing first
26 "Behold, I set before you today a blessing (first) and a curse: 27 the blessing, if you obey the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you today;
28 and the curse, if you do not obey the commandments of the Lord your God,
but turn aside from the way which I command you today,(= blessing first) to go after other gods which you have not known.
If Biden would have called that Obama has the spine of steel to be able to handle it first; then God will honor that...... but he called down the curse first =and the curse but "turn aside"... from the way which I "command you" today,(= blessing first)
1Co 1:18 - Show Context
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
The power of God is in the blessing
Biden is a curser!
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 7:20:46 PM
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IMA_CHRISTIAN
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are you talking about this speech? Could you provide a link to what you saw/heard?
that looks like the one.. unless he used those remarks elsewhere.. coz today while i am home sick for a week,, i saw on tv - they showed the words and then they added the phrase that I told you about - that he has a strong spine of steel and can handle it.
Now im not kidding about what I saw.. It is NOT in your article. I wonder if they left it out. Or if the person who wrote the words on TV added it.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 7:23:07 PM
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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN
you guys have taken things out of context! Today i heard the WHOLE speech on tv.
Biden did say those things, but he also said "And Obama has the spine of steel to be able to handle it"
THAT CHANGES THINGS DOESN';T IT? the Republicans have run off with half the whole story and the part that changes the whole meaning of what Biden said.
That is slander and more stupid republican tricks to elect mccain who is LOSING according to the polls.
And you all believe it!!!
at least believe the truth, not a lie. you can hate obama because of a truth, but this is a ridiculous lie.
We all aren't the only ones! It's been all over the news shows, too and many newscasters have raised eyebrows!
If one perceives it's the rest of the world that's crazy, one has to ask oneself the hard questions!
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 7:37:56 PM
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LoyalGypsy
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So he is guaranteeing something very bad will happen once we elect Obama, and when he must take drastic measures that will be required to deal with this very bad thing, he is asking that we please love the ticket as much as you do now?
It sounds like from the whole transcript, that Obama will be tested more than McCain would ... and when that happens, just remember how much we "love" him now.
McCain has already been tested!!
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 7:39:06 PM
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If Biden really believes this, one would wonder exactly what pushed Obama to pick HIM as his running mate. That would, at first glance, almost sound like something like handing McCain the election on a silver platter.
In all seriousness, I hope and pray it's none of the above, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen just based on what happened with the last two Presidents.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 7:45:16 PM
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It is simple. Slow Joe "IQ" Biden heard something dire in the transition briefings he went to with Pres. Bush. He can't keep his mouth shut because it makes him look important, and so he couldn't resist giving a hint of what is going to happen if Barack wins. He also knows that when this testing comes that 0bama's response will sour a LOT of opinion, either because Barry will wave the white flag of surrender as his kind is prone to do, or he will take "drastic draconian" domestic measures that his ilk like to rail on George Bush for.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 7:55:44 PM
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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN
you guys have taken things out of context! Today i heard the WHOLE speech on tv.
Biden did say those things, but he also said "And Obama has the spine of steel to be able to handle it"
THAT CHANGES THINGS DOESN';T IT? the Republicans have run off with half the whole story and the part that changes the whole meaning of what Biden said.
That is slander and more stupid republican tricks to elect mccain who is LOSING according to the polls.
And you all believe it!!!
at least believe the truth, not a lie. you can hate obama because of a truth, but this is a ridiculous lie.
That's true, he did say that and it does change the whole thing, but you know how some, especially here like to take things and run with it when it's about their opposition. Leiberman said something similar, but it wasn't a big. I think that no matter who is president, when like others in the past, elected into office, they will be tested, to think otherwise, is to be naive.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 10:09:08 PM
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ORIGINAL: IMA_CHRISTIAN
you guys have taken things out of context! Today i heard the WHOLE speech on tv.
Biden did say those things, but he also said "And Obama has the spine of steel to be able to handle it"
THAT CHANGES THINGS DOESN';T IT? the Republicans have run off with half the whole story and the part that changes the whole meaning of what Biden said.
That is slander and more stupid republican tricks to elect mccain who is LOSING according to the polls.
And you all believe it!!!
at least believe the truth, not a lie. you can hate obama because of a truth, but this is a ridiculous lie.
That's true, he did say that and it does change the whole thing, but you know how some, especially here like to take things and run with it when it's about their opposition. Leiberman said something similar, but it wasn't a big. I think that no matter who is president, when like others in the past, elected into office, they will be tested, to think otherwise, is to be naive.
Hi - I saw it again - on MSNBC on the Rachel Maddow show just now about half way thru. So I know im not imagining it. Im too sick to have any energy to go digging for a link. I've had a cold all week and i got no energy just about.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 10:23:18 PM
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A "spine of steel" does not change the fact that Biden is asking us, the American people, to TRUST Obama to make changes that may not be popular. "We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us" and "they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound."
Steel spines have more to do with those of us who will have to deal with those changes. Changes I'm sure I won't like.
Not to mention Albright and Rather have commented on what Joe the would be VP has said also.
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/24/2008 10:29:12 PM
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But then I forget that the spine of steel calls it a "Rhetorical Flourish" of Joe the mouth. 
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RE: On Omen? Warning? Threat? - 10/29/2008 10:11:26 AM
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When Biden made the statement about Obama, and being tested in the first six months of his presidency could he have been trying to warn us? I know it sounds far fetched, but Biden has been with Obama more, and more, since being picked by Obama ,and maybe he is in a place he cannot get out of running for VP, but, in truth Biden really is as scared of Obama as many of us are. knowing thr real Obama may have Biden freaked.This is just food for thought. 
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and maybe he is in a place he cannot get out of running for VP
You mean so as to seal the victory and not to cause controversy?
Don’t count on it....
The nomination of Barrack was deliberate in the first place…. to cause the entire ruckus we see now,
if the Dem cared 1 bit about the proposed middle class of easily led Americans… they would not have presented their nominee in whom knowing already about his associations and his faiths ...at this particular time with the current war on terror.
That agenda has been scripted for ""many years
LG
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...So the Persians ask that the 300 drop their arms. Leonidas responds; "Persians! Come and get them!"
300 The Movie
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