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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 12:19:30 PM
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tsnody2001
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http://www.bible-truth.org/GEN10.HTM
http://www.answers.com/topic/sons-of-noah
http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Cradle_Land.htm
Here are three links to get started... I must go to bed now and get some sleep, because I work the night shift until seven in the morning. But I will dig through some other more reliable documented sources in the morning when I get off work... and then we can discuss whether there is a connection to the OWO.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 2:13:10 PM
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It's tempting to take Noah's blessing or curse of his sons and interpret that to be an anticipation of the destiny of people from certain geographies or of certain correlated races. But that's a liberal application of the text. It's not clear that God, through Moses, was talking about race at all.
I think you have misunderstood the meaning of my post. I was not advocating that the text at all dealt with race. All I was saying was that Genesis 10-11, and 16-17 gives a record of God's prophetic vision for this planet. This is implemented through their family bloodlines, which has nothing to do with race, although you cannot separate race from the equation. You are correct, that in Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave or free.
I don't understand the idea that race has nothing to do with family bloodlines. Can you explain?
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 2:53:47 PM
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There are so many surreptitious groups that exist in the world…to name a few as well as some theories;
Illuminati
Freemasonry
Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Round Table
Open Conspiracy
Fourth Reich
Alien Invasion
Gradualism
Coup d”etat and martial law
Surveillance industrial complex
Occultism
But maybe one that could bring all of these together is the Council on Foreign Relations.
When I read about all these different groups it sets my head to spinning but for the most part there is a common thread. It is generally a secular elitist group that wants to bring the world under a centralized one world government. It’s almost like Satan…not having a clear framework in mind plants the genesis of many different groups, all with the same end goal, with the hope that one of these groups will fully develop and bring about his end goal of a world government of which he will be the head. I really doubt, if you could understand the charters and intent of any of these groups that you would find anything except bring world peace as their goal. This is one reason it is so difficult to put your finger on any single group or agenda.
Just my opinion…
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 2:58:46 PM
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It’s almost like Satan…not having a clear framework in mind plants the genesis of many different groups, all with the same end goal, with the hope that one of these groups will fully develop and bring about his end goal of a world government of which he will be the head.
Thanks Bob............that made a couple extra neurons spark a bit. lol.
It just struck me that just perhaps Satan is having as much trouble
getting his followers to obey him as God has in getting his followers to obey him.
I've never looked at that side of the pony before...............LOL
And there are so many followers who don't know who to follow
so they alternate paths again and again.
I stick to one path and that makes me legalistic, uncaring, etc. etc.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 3:42:42 PM
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There are so many surreptitious groups that exist in the world…to name a few as well as some theories;
Illuminati
Freemasonry
Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Round Table
Open Conspiracy
Fourth Reich
Alien Invasion
Gradualism
Coup d”etat and martial law
Surveillance industrial complex
Occultism
But maybe one that could bring all of these together is the Council on Foreign Relations.
Bob
You left off the Lions Club (talk about your symbolism!). All that stuff about trying to help the "blind" is just code for communicating with all their sleeper cells.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 3:46:47 PM
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http://www.bible-truth.org/GEN10.HTM
http://www.answers.com/topic/sons-of-noah
http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Cradle_Land.htm
Here are three links to get started... I must go to bed now and get some sleep, because I work the night shift until seven in the morning. But I will dig through some other more reliable documented sources in the morning when I get off work... and then we can discuss whether there is a connection to the OWO.
So, the fact that there is a town in Georgia named Athens, that proves one of the sons of Noah begat the Europeans and Russians and they eventually begat the Georgia Bulldogs?
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 4:14:33 PM
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ORIGINAL: tsnody2001
http://www.bible-truth.org/GEN10.HTM
http://www.answers.com/topic/sons-of-noah
http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Cradle_Land.htm
Here are three links to get started... I must go to bed now and get some sleep, because I work the night shift until seven in the morning. But I will dig through some other more reliable documented sources in the morning when I get off work... and then we can discuss whether there is a connection to the OWO.
So, the fact that there is a town in Georgia named Athens, that proves one of the sons of Noah begat the Europeans and Russians and they eventually begat the Georgia Bulldogs?
Go DAWGS!!!!
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 6:29:13 PM
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God prophesied this in Genesis 9.
24 When Noah awoke from his wine and found out what his youngest son had done to him,
25 he said, "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers."
26 He also said, "Blessed be the LORD, the God of Shem! May Canaan be the slave of Shem.
27 May God extend the territory of Japheth; may Japheth live in the tents of Shem, and may Canaan be his slave."
If you get out the histroy books, you will find that, from the three sons of Noah (Ham, Shem, and Japheth), there come the three major human races on the earth. As they spread out, Ham (and Canaan) became the faothers of the peoples who travelled down into Africa and the surrounding areas; Shem spread to the east and became the Semitic peoples (Hebrews and Arabs); Japheth went to the north and west to inhabit the land Europe and Russia. The curse/blessing in Genesis 9 is a most accurate description of the state of the world today. Couple that with the blessing God gave Ishmael (Genesis 16:10-12; 17:20) and you get a blueprint of how God primarily deals with the nations prophetically.
But I understand you statement: you don't want to discriminate because of race. That is honorable, but sometimes you can't avoid the subject. Well, I suppose I should stop rambling...
Well, there must've been more sons. What about Asia? What about native America? South America?
snoody2001, that's so true about these races, I heard about that as well. By answering your question, Cow51, I believe there're mainly 3 races in the world, being white, black, and yellow! Well, this would be another topic Lol! If you look back the history, the 'Silk Road' (well, that's another long history), is the greatest integration in the areas of racial, cultural, trade exchange in the history of Asia. Asia in the past is not the Asia we see today, what Asia/East mentions in the Scriputures is the one in our current day Middle East.
Again, from my research, the native American/South America, you could go back to the history of slave trade, these peple have spread all over the world .......
Again, this is my personal view only when I see this beautiful world that God created! Thanks for your profoud understanding! <I'll not be off the thread, but just answering the spicific questions at the moment.>
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 6:54:33 PM
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There are so many surreptitious groups that exist in the world…to name a few as well as some theories;
But maybe one that could bring all of these together is the Council on Foreign Relations.
When I read about all these different groups it sets my head to spinning but for the most part there is a common thread. It is generally a secular elitist group that wants to bring the world under a centralized one world government. It’s almost like Satan…not having a clear framework in mind plants the genesis of many different groups, all with the same end goal, with the hope that one of these groups will fully develop and bring about his end goal of a world government of which he will be the head. I really doubt, if you could understand the charters and intent of any of these groups that you would find anything except bring world peace as their goal. This is one reason it is so difficult to put your finger on any single group or agenda.
Just my opinion…
Bob
That's so true! The war we are fighting is not the physical war, but the spiritual war!
More Scriptural reference couldd be seen in Ephesians 6: 12-18, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;" 
This may serve the biblical perspective of OWO and the biblical solution for all of us!
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 8:23:55 PM
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I don't understand the idea that race has nothing to do with family bloodlines. Can you explain?
I don't think I have stated myself clearly in this. Basically what I'm trying say is that God dealt with these individuals at a heart level. He did not have their skin color in mind when He blessed/cursed. Maybe I could be wrong.
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So, the fact that there is a town in Georgia named Athens, that proves one of the sons of Noah begat the Europeans and Russians and they eventually begat the Georgia Bulldogs?
The sons of Noah begat EVERYONE on this planet. So are you trying to say that we cannot study history and have a reasonable understanding of what has taken place in the past? I am no expert in this matter, but there comes a time when I trust those who are experts. But even then, I will do my own studies and try to confirm or disqualify what and "expert" has to say. God has given us minds to use (In no way was I implying that you don't, so please don't think that).
But, anyway, if you study the line of Noahs grandsons and great-grandsons, you will see that some of those names are used in prophecies that deal with the Last-Days (Ezek. 38-39, etc.). These sons and grandsons and great-grandsons became specific tribes which God used to identify peoples in the last days.
I wonder if we should start a thread for this topic, because it is way off topic, but very interesting to look at. Moderator, what do you think?
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 11:18:20 PM
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I believe there're mainly 3 races in the world, being white, black, and yellow! Well, this would be another topic Lol! If you look back the history, the 'Silk Road' (well, that's another long history), is the greatest integration in the areas of racial, cultural, trade exchange in the history of Asia. Asia in the past is not the Asia we see today, what Asia/East mentions in the Scriputures is the one in our current day Middle East.
Again, from my research, the native American/South America, you could go back to the history of slave trade, these peple have spread all over the world .......
So "red" is a minor sub-race.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 11:35:00 PM
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cow451 are you trying to just bring up little arguments like this just to be a splinter in someone's fingernail, or are these honest questions? It doesn't seem like you are actually pursuing any answers, only trying to be a pain. That is unfortunate for those of us (and you) in here who actually are pursuing a better understanding through honest discussion and debate.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/12/2009 11:50:18 PM
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lhtytlp
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So "red" is a minor sub-race.
Cow451, from my observation, the attitude of black, red and yellow has lots of similarities in terms of their cultures, tradition, etc.! Personally, I consider red is the negatives/Aborigine. Maybe we could have discussion outside of the forum if you wish! Again, I'm only trying to be racial balance! If God doesn't look at our appearance, why we are His creations should be? Let me not be off thread again!
Thanks and bless you!!
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 12:11:02 AM
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cow451 are you trying to just bring up little arguments like this just to be a splinter in someone's fingernail, or are these honest questions? It doesn't seem like you are actually pursuing any answers, only trying to be a pain. That is unfortunate for those of us (and you) in here who actually are pursuing a better understanding through honest discussion and debate.
I agree with you, tsnody2001.
Cow451, the purpose of each thread we discuss here is to get us (Christians) informed about current events happening around the world, we ourselves need to do our own research from what others who have contributed, then go back to the drawing point, which is the Bible!
Please don't take it wrong or personal, but if you couldn't incorporate with others views/opinions from the positive perspective, you may always live in your box. <I couldn't expect any of us agree one another, but to obsorve from each other's knowledge; the matter of approach of being a Christian is very important! That's just my view!!!>
God bless you!
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 12:20:43 AM
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Very well said BH  ...
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 5:23:47 AM
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cow451 are you trying to just bring up little arguments like this just to be a splinter in someone's fingernail, or are these honest questions? It doesn't seem like you are actually pursuing any answers, only trying to be a pain. That is unfortunate for those of us (and you) in here who actually are pursuing a better understanding through honest discussion and debate.
I agree with you, tsnody2001.
Cow451, the purpose of each thread we discuss here is to get us (Christians) informed about current events happening around the world, we ourselves need to do our own research from what others who have contributed, then go back to the drawing point, which is the Bible!
Please don't take it wrong or personal, but if you couldn't incorporate with others views/opinions from the positive perspective, you may always live in your box. <I couldn't expect any of us agree one another, but to obsorve from each other's knowledge; the matter of approach of being a Christian is very important! That's just my view!!!>
God bless you!
Wow we have been busy on here while i've been away! LOL
So very well put, I couldn't have put it better folks :)
It is very frustrating when some folks simply add nothing to a discussion, but simply and clearly only desire to throw unhelpful and negative remarks that have no useful content at all. If Quick jabs and one line sarcasms are the only reason to be on the end time forum, then it begs the question, why be on here, if not simply to frustrate, cause a level of division and stunt conversation? Sure, disagree, but don't simply try cause troubles with those giving serious consideration to prophecy. It's almost as if the belief here is that God doesn't offer his children knowledge of the last days that serves his children not to walk in darkness. That's all we are doing, giving serious thought to the clues and insight God has given to that end time generation.
Blessings to all,
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 9:50:02 AM
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cow451 are you trying to just bring up little arguments like this just to be a splinter in someone's fingernail, or are these honest questions? It doesn't seem like you are actually pursuing any answers, only trying to be a pain. That is unfortunate for those of us (and you) in here who actually are pursuing a better understanding through honest discussion and debate.
I'm responding to posts. This discussion about races is somewhat far-fetched in terms of prophecy, but then much of these discussions are far-fetched. It would seem to make more sense that race-dilution through intermarriage/interbreeding would be more a sign of an eventual OWO since, thoeretically, there would be fewer racial/ethnic divisions with less variation in skin color.
But the notion of OWO is not supported Biblically, anyway.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 10:21:45 AM
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cow451 are you trying to just bring up little arguments like this just to be a splinter in someone's fingernail, or are these honest questions? It doesn't seem like you are actually pursuing any answers, only trying to be a pain. That is unfortunate for those of us (and you) in here who actually are pursuing a better understanding through honest discussion and debate.
I'm responding to posts. This discussion about races is somewhat far-fetched in terms of prophecy, but then much of these discussions are far-fetched. It would seem to make more sense that race-dilution through intermarriage/interbreeding would be more a sign of an eventual OWO since, thoeretically, there would be fewer racial/ethnic divisions with less variation in skin color.
But the notion of OWO is not supported Biblically, anyway.
I've learned never to raise even honest questions against the End According to Lindsey Philosophy and the like without expecting criticism because, unlike other areas of faith, Unquestioned Acceptance is the sign of the truly intelligent and faithful.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 10:40:52 AM
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There are so many surreptitious groups that exist in the world…to name a few as well as some theories;
Illuminati
Freemasonry
Protocols of the Elders of Zion
Round Table
Open Conspiracy
Fourth Reich
Alien Invasion
Gradualism
Coup d”etat and martial law
Surveillance industrial complex
Occultism
But maybe one that could bring all of these together is the Council on Foreign Relations.
Apart from these societies well known by the public are the majority forces of the OWO, some presidents of business entities are part of them, sadly to say, even some Christian organizations that I know of as well! From my observation, majority of these elites are equipped with human knowledge and in certain level, they know the Scriptures and know how to quote the Words of God to justify their action and confuse the children of God. <Remember one of the site we went through earlier? http://americanendeavor.blogspot.com/2007/10/will-you-pledge-lucifer-united-nations.html> It remends me of pharphees who always challenged Jesus in the New Testament and HE was been tempted by Satan! 
In Genesis, 3: 1-6, "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."
This is always the trick of the devil, speaks partial truth of the Scriptures and adds a little white/sweet lie in order to carry Christians off the track. As children of God, we should not be based on what we see, what we hear, but the Spirit of the Lord/His Holy Words, in order to protect ourselves!
Here is another site for the timeline of this 'OWO' and you are free to check it out! http://www.threeworldwars.com/nwo-timeline1.htm
The weekend is coming, we all could enjoy more reading apart from the weekly work! Emmanuel!!! 
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 11:02:02 AM
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Morning Dear BH...I'm not sure how you are inserting you links, seems like you might be typing then into your post. If you will copy the link address from the source and then paste it into your post, then all we have to do is click to go there.
This is an example: http://www.drudgereport.com/
Another thought that occurs is that you are changing the color and that defeats the ability to click and link. Hope this makes senses
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 11:10:02 AM
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But the notion of OWO is not supported Biblically, anyway.
I disagree. OWO comes after Jesus establishes the New Jerusalem.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 11:19:22 AM
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Oops, Bob, thanks anyway! I never knew that function, somehow, I knew there's something wrong for not been able to click the link! Again, millions of thanks and hope all is well with you!! I think the way I'm doing this time is correct, I'll check out after posting it!
As we discussed before, there's strong link between United Nations and One World Order, you may check the following sites, sorry there's lots of information to be digested, LoL!
SHOCKING FACTS ABOUT THE UNITED NATIONS
United Nations Wahch
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 11:53:11 AM
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But the notion of OWO is not supported Biblically, anyway.
I disagree. OWO comes after Jesus establishes the New Jerusalem.
So, that would mean OWO is a good thing.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 8/13/2009 12:59:34 PM
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bob97
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So are you guys saying that it is not the intended focus of the progressive secular movement to work towards a One World Government based on socialism? That all the political statements are meanness? That the OWG concept is just some mindless fundamental pipe dream?
Bob
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