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RE: Babies in Church - 2/24/2009 3:20:00 PM
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Karaboo2
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Creche typically equates to cradle ... ie. babes in arms. Whenever I heard the story of the birth of Jesus, he was wrapped and laid in a creche.
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/24/2009 4:31:27 PM
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Lyrach
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Well, let's see. My child was ALWAYS a talker...etc... and I absolutely was not comfortable with breastfeeding during the service...so, I ended up in the nursery for the first 10mos. of service. Then, because we didn't have anyone doing any work to help with the nursery schedule, and because everyone said I was there anyway, I did another 10 months of every other Sunday (and then some) work in the nursery - not very fun when you also play on the worship team. I really don't like how a lot of parents over-use the nursery just for daycare. My mother would take care of my son on the weeks where I played drums, and some people were like, oh, you're in here, good - and they'd drop them off by the loads! My mother has a severe back problem (she's had surgery already), so she's quite limited in what she can do as far as lifting. It's a lot better ever since my son "graduated" into the 2 year-3year old class. I offer to help out as an assistant on the weeks when I don't play on the worship team, but they have 2-3 teachers who are on a rotating schedule (plus a sub) , and then our teens from youth group volunteer as helpers - it's really cool seeing everyone pitch in. Oh, and right when my son got out of the nursery, they started a once a month rotating schedule for that, too....nice! I am going to be having baby #2, and I know I may not be able to be in the services for a while....*sniffle*....so, I'm loading up on them right now! All our kids are in for the worship time at the beginning. During the ending worship songs, there are usually older kids who come back in the sanctuary, but there's kids worship up in another room too.
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/24/2009 4:37:15 PM
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Lyrach
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Heeehee - I love you doinkdom!!! You rock- I absolutely agree with your comments below!
Come to think of it- when I was a little girl , I wanted to stay in service & listen ot the pastor, sure I'd get squirley, so my sister &I sat on the floor and colored - mostly pictures about the sermon or wrote words about what the pastor said. I grew up with my dad as a preacher, so we HAD to stay in the service. I learned about children's church when I was 9 or 10 years old, and even then, I wasn't interested. I don't think the church in Acts had a separate service for the kids and adults, either. hmmmm....
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Would it be reasonable for me to try to take baby in the service and then sit near the door?
(I'm still only 27 weeks pregnant; I'm just planning ahead.)
Absolutely - I confess I'm posting blind without reading other's thoughts.
Segregating children in church...let's just say it's a soapbox of mine and leave it at that. 
IMO and experience, the main reason many people get so irritated with babies/kids in church is because no matter how quiet they are, the movement of crayon across paper or the munching of cheerios apparently gets on the nerves of the people who hear God's word just this one time each week during the hour long service.
So...for them, it's the only time they've carved out of their busy schedule to spend with God. Heaven forbid, a baby interrupt that.  
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/24/2009 4:39:45 PM
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doinkdom
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/24/2009 4:55:10 PM
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The church I attend has a nursery, and classes for 5 and under every service. If I have kids, I will not send them to class every time. Since we have a Sunday Morning, Eve and Wed Eve service, I would pick one, probably sunday night and have my child sit in church with me. That way they can learn about church and the building is not so busy with people on Sunday night. It is more the core of the church.
I also don't think I would put an infant in the nursery. When they start to crawl, I might rethink it.
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/24/2009 9:54:01 PM
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I think it is absolutely feasible for you to have your infant in service. Mine has always been in services. We would sit in the back an as she learned to sit, we sat her between us with limited space. She has always just adapted to how to behave in situations very well.
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/25/2009 7:08:28 AM
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One could argue ( and I definitely would be one ) that instead of sitting in the main church and " moving crayons across paper or munching on cheerios " and listening to a message they are not ready to understand that just maybe they should be in a church classroom with children their age being taught Godly things they are able to comprehend.
A child can be listening to the message while doing these things.
I don't think anyone here has said that kid's shouldn't have their own time of age appropriate activities. We just question whether it should happen during the worship service.
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/25/2009 7:51:41 AM
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One could argue ( and I definitely would be one ) that instead of sitting in the main church and " moving crayons across paper or munching on cheerios " and listening to a message they are not ready to understand that just maybe they should be in a church classroom with children their age being taught Godly things they are able to comprehend.
A child can be listening to the message while doing these things.
I don't think anyone here has said that kid's shouldn't have their own time of age appropriate activities. We just question whether it should happen during the worship service.
Right on Zoe. And we must remember that it's not even a necessity. Kids did just great for MANY years before the addition of nursery and children's church to modern church.
And there are still many churches that don't provide any such thing.
Choice is the issue here. Some kids do great in kids' activities. Some kids don't thrive, can't focus and do better with their parents in worship. Each family must do what is best for their children and their family as a whole
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/25/2009 8:03:30 AM
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Hey there Samson USA - I don't believe doinkdom was trying to be self righteous in her posting. The bottom part of her e-mail is sadly becoming true in our American church & lives...it's a different topic in & of itself, so I'll stick to what's being discussed, but I wanted to make that point clear. The churches of third world countries DO NOT have separate services for their kids, yet because they are Christians and are persecuted,tested, (and still greatful) everyday for their faith, the adults & children are more spiritually alive than many of the Christians I've seen in America (myself included). I don't accept the point from people who are overly spoiled & babied (no pun intended here) in their spiritual lives in America. We have so many conveniences (not saying that it's not part of your important spiritual walk to have alone time with God, just whether or not you should "expect" that time during the corporate gathering of the Body of Believers during a service) in the modern -day church. Let it be a cause for examination between your relationship w/Christ. That's all.
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Would it be reasonable for me to try to take baby in the service and then sit near the door?
(I'm still only 27 weeks pregnant; I'm just planning ahead.)
Absolutely - I confess I'm posting blind without reading other's thoughts.
Segregating children in church...let's just say it's a soapbox of mine and leave it at that.
IMO and experience, the main reason many people get so irritated with babies/kids in church is because no matter how quiet they are, the movement of crayon across paper or the munching of cheerios apparently gets on the nerves of the people who hear God's word just this one time each week during the hour long service.
So...for them, it's the only time they've carved out of their busy schedule to spend with God. Heaven forbid, a baby interrupt that. [8|]
One could argue ( and I definitely would be one ) that instead of sitting in the main church and " moving crayons across paper or munching on cheerios " and listening to a message they are not ready to understand that just maybe they should be in a church classroom with children their age being taught Godly things they are able to comprehend.
And the last part of your argument sounds very self righteous no matter what your stance is on kids in church.
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/25/2009 8:17:01 AM
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frankly, I didn't find it self-righteous either. Accurate IMHO, given the world's view in general on children...and how it's creeping into church.
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/25/2009 11:28:31 AM
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doinkdom
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Would it be reasonable for me to try to take baby in the service and then sit near the door?
(I'm still only 27 weeks pregnant; I'm just planning ahead.)
Absolutely - I confess I'm posting blind without reading other's thoughts.
Segregating children in church...let's just say it's a soapbox of mine and leave it at that.
IMO and experience, the main reason many people get so irritated with babies/kids in church is because no matter how quiet they are, the movement of crayon across paper or the munching of cheerios apparently gets on the nerves of the people who hear God's word just this one time each week during the hour long service.
So...for them, it's the only time they've carved out of their busy schedule to spend with God. Heaven forbid, a baby interrupt that. [8|]
One could argue ( and I definitely would be one ) that instead of sitting in the main church and " moving crayons across paper or munching on cheerios " and listening to a message they are not ready to understand that just maybe they should be in a church classroom with children their age being taught Godly things they are able to comprehend.
I'm not talking about an older child learning God on their level...I'm talking about the in between time before they are old enough to do so. IMO, part of being a community includes the babies/toddlers...and part of being in community is caring for the babies/toddlers among us which distributes the caring of children to everyone...not just mom.
What better way to learn and exhibit just a small amount of the grace we've been shown than this?
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And the last part of your argument sounds very self righteous no matter what your stance is on kids in church.
Wow, I've been accused of a lot of things, but never being self-righteous.
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/26/2009 3:05:37 PM
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I just wonder are you close enough to anyone in church to ask them if the room is just an offering to mothers or if they are riggid about the use of the room?
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RE: Babies in Church - 2/27/2009 4:01:53 PM
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I am still using the "cry room" as it has been called since day dot, but its really the mothers room for mums and babies under the age of 3. My son is 18 months and does not just want to sit and play with toys, he wants to talk, walk around, so once worship is over I go into the room and come out at the end. If there was a creche I would send my son because as a mother it is hard to find the time to hear from God etc during the week and I also want to hear what my pastor is saying to the congretation. I wouldn't have sent him until he was atleast one though, or walking. I am hanging out til he is 3 and I can sit and learn, enjoy a service.
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RE: Babies in Church - 3/1/2009 4:58:16 PM
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We had a newborn in worship service this morn. and it was fantastic seeing the love givin to this baby. If that isn't enough to inspire worship I can't imagine what is.
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RE: Babies in Church - 11/4/2009 10:46:36 PM
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Would it be reasonable for me to try to take baby in the service and then sit near the door?
Sounds fine to me. Most people understand kids may start crying, but as long as you don't sit there through the whole service with a wailing baby I wouldn't think anyone should mind.
Does your church have a child-care room? That worked great for us.
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Older 3's can learn and retain in the right setting. Even younger ones can, but I don't think it often happens when you've got a group of 8 or 10 of them in the same room. There's no special spiritual benefit to my toddler playing in the nursery. So why shouldn't he sit at my feet and color?
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