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Scientists meet to dispute global warming theory

NEW YORK CITY - The A-list of manmade climate-change skeptics is meeting in New York City for the 2009 International Conference on Climate Change.

The Conference is definitely international in scope. Opening the conference is Vaclav Klaus, president of the Czech Republic and the European Union. When it comes to manmade global warming, Klaus calls that a myth. He is also an outspoken critic of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and says the panel is one-sided and has a political agenda.

Featured at the conference will be more than 70 scientists who do not subscribe to the notion that so-called global warming is driven by manmade emissions of carbon dioxide, one of those being Harrison "Jack" Schmitt -- one of the last astronauts to walk on the moon.

The Conference is being hosted by The Heartland Institute. Dan Miller is the director of public relations at Heartland.

"What we are trying to accomplish with this conference is to present to the politicians and to the public that the debate is not over about global warming or climate change; that there is plenty of room for disagreement; and that sound science shows that the earth is not warming," says Miller.

"For much of the latter part of the 20th century there's been a mild warming as we come out of an ice age -- but the planet today is much cooler than it was a thousand years ago."

Besides the 70+ scientists at this conference, more than 650 scientists worldwide have expressed skepticism over manmade climate change.

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I believe the whole "global warming movement" is geared toward governments gaining power and control over everything that produces anything so that they can manipulate what businesses/economies can and cannot do.

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But the global warming alarmists have placed into motion a movement that will now ignore the facts of global cooling in order to gain control of world economies. This is what the global warming movement is all about, while preaching the message that there is no God, and man must save the earth from man.

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FOR MORE THAN HALF A CENTURY the eminent physicist Freeman Dyson has quietly resided in Prince ton, N.J., on the wooded former farmland that is home to his employer, the Institute for Advanced Study, this country’s most rarefied community of scholars. Lately, however, since coming “out of the closet as far as global warming is concerned,” as Dyson sometimes puts it, there has been noise all around him. Chat rooms, Web threads, editors’ letter boxes and Dyson’s own e-mail queue resonate with a thermal current of invective in which Dyson has discovered himself variously described as “a pompous twit,” “a blowhard,” “a cesspool of misinformation,” “an old coot riding into the sunset” and, perhaps inevitably, “a mad scientist.” Dyson had proposed that whatever inflammations the climate was experiencing might be a good thing because carbon dioxide helps plants of all kinds grow. Then he added the caveat that if CO2 levels soared too high, they could be soothed by the mass cultivation of specially bred “carbon-eating trees,” whereupon the University of Chicago law professor Eric Posner looked through the thick grove of honorary degrees Dyson has been awarded — there are 21 from universities like Georgetown, Princeton and Oxford — and suggested that “perhaps trees can also be designed so that they can give directions to lost hikers.” Dyson’s son, George, a technology historian, says his father’s views have cooled friendships, while many others have concluded that time has cost Dyson something else. There is the suspicion that, at age 85, a great scientist of the 20th century is no longer just far out, he is far gone — out of his beautiful mind.

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

Do you think global warming and the increase of socialism world wide is a coinicidence?

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1

To me, ideals like global warming can only flourish, and indeed are intregal, under socialism.

Afterall, without fear, no one would be socialist and you need something to be afraid of to BE socialist.

Hence, the rise of socialism is also the rise of non-scientific global warming scare.

It must be proven that man is depraved and in need of "better" men to control them. That..is socialism. So first, you must prove man is fallen..at least most of mankind. Thing is, the bible is clear...ALL are fallen. This flies in the face of socialism since their premise is...most are fallen, well except the elitist socialist/liberal.

So, besides the fact that liberals/sociailists add to global warming by all their hot air.... ....man made global warming cannot exist outside of socialist agendas.

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I expect in thirty years, it will be global cooling.

Lets see, when I was a kid in the late sixties and early seventies, it was pollution. Over population. Global cooling.

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By the time I was a teenager, in the 50's, we were doing duck, roll, cover head and hide under our desks, because Russia could blast us off the face of the earth at anytime; no-one thought about the next weather change coming, cause we wouldn't be here to see it anyway. I never dreamed back than I'd see the turn of the century [2000].

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1


All I can say is I'm stocking up on my soylent green.

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ORIGINAL: EFLin

Last week I heard the funniest thing. It seems that some scientists are getting so worried about Global Cooling, that they are considering ways to put more pollution into the upper atmosphere to help hold in some of the earth's heat. I am not making this up. As soon as I find the link I will post it.

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ORIGINAL: John_O

Some fun pictures in the link below. Apparently globull worming started well before 1959 as there was no ice at the north pole.

Artic ice not so thick

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ORIGINAL: iluvatar

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ORIGINAL: John_O

Some fun pictures in the link below. Apparently globull worming started well before 1959 as there was no ice at the north pole.

Artic ice not so thick

There's some good info to be had if you dig through the comments on that page.
What is a Polynya?
Submarine measurements show ice thinning over 2nd half of 20th century

The sub would've searched for the thinnest part of the ice to break through rather than just blindly ramming into it.

-Dan.

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ORIGINAL: John_O

I really don't think those evil SUVs caused the ice to thin startiing in 1959 or earlier.

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ORIGINAL: Peter_Gunn

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ORIGINAL: John_O

I really don't think those evil SUVs caused the ice to thin startiing in 1959 or earlier.

Oh, I don't know. I think if we look hard enough, we can find a reason to blame mankind for this, too!

Maybe the government, as we speak, is forming a committee to do just that.

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ORIGINAL: John_O

So we now know it is "Bush's fault"

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ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady

More debate within the scientific community ...

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Scientists meet to dispute global warming theory

NEW YORK CITY - The A-list of manmade climate-change skeptics is meeting in New York City for the 2009 International Conference on Climate Change.

The Conference is definitely international in scope. Opening the conference is Vaclav Klaus, president of the Czech Republic and the European Union. When it comes to manmade global warming, Klaus calls that a myth. He is also an outspoken critic of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and says the panel is one-sided and has a political agenda.

Featured at the conference will be more than 70 scientists who do not subscribe to the notion that so-called global warming is driven by manmade emissions of carbon dioxide, one of those being Harrison "Jack" Schmitt -- one of the last astronauts to walk on the moon.

The Conference is being hosted by The Heartland Institute. Dan Miller is the director of public relations at Heartland.

"What we are trying to accomplish with this conference is to present to the politicians and to the public that the debate is not over about global warming or climate change; that there is plenty of room for disagreement; and that sound science shows that the earth is not warming," says Miller.

"For much of the latter part of the 20th century there's been a mild warming as we come out of an ice age -- but the planet today is much cooler than it was a thousand years ago."

Besides the 70+ scientists at this conference, more than 650 scientists worldwide have expressed skepticism over manmade climate change.

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