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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/9/2009 3:01:32 PM
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I think we can know the season for the return of Christ (fall) and I think there will come a time when we can say with some degree of certainly the year...but not yet. Not until we see the fulfillment of the prophecy of the Antichrist and the desolation will we be able to see the end.
On the other hand if we do not understand the prophecy correctly we might be in for a very big surprise. 
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/9/2009 8:57:24 PM
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At Christmas time 2008 Lindsey was being taped
from a church and while talking about the
Mayan calendar. He chuckled and said that
he thought it (rapture)would before 2012.
Jack Kelly who says that he believes it could happen in 2011.
Time will tell if either of these men are right.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/13/2009 10:54:41 PM
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Watched the show again from this week (Monday). Excellent program. He's doing a great job of reporting on the inevitable Israel-Iran military conflict, which very well could set the stage for Daniel's 70th Week.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 10:59:20 AM
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Shalom, All.
I may have a couple of things to consider. We all, purdy-much agree that Israel, and Iran, have to have a knock-down over the Nuc factor. Is it possible for the Gog of Magog battle to come as a surprise attack against Israel, just to keep them from bombing Iran? Just a thought that keeps popping into my mind.
And, Matthew-59 commented on the fact that Pentecost is on Sabbath, and wondered how often that happened. Intrigued, I did a search, and found that back to 1967, at least, the occurrence was every two to four years. Checking forward, I found that this year is the last year this will happen until 2022. I do not know if there is anything to consider with the blank area, other than so many Prophecies, and Seer projections that point to this time, 2009-2017, being of prime possibility for a good old fashioned seven year Tribulation. Dewey Bruton's 'Daniel's Timeline' teaching, coupled with Mark Biltz's teaching on the Feasts, and the 2014/15 Eclipses, all seem to tie together.
By the by, Mat 24:42 only addresses the 'hour' that we who watch will not know. No one knows when the New Moon will be sighted, from Jerusalem, to start Tishri-1, but we can sure, scientifically guess within a few minutes (clouds excepted).
Bob, what could be a 'big surprise,' if we guess wrong? The only negative I can see is that you-all will have to put up with me a while longer. I am not saying the 'Sky is Falling,' I am saying: 'The Sky is filling with Home-coming Clouds.' Yeee-Haaa!
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 12:44:44 PM
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Shalom, All.
I may have a couple of things to consider. We all, purdy-much agree that Israel, and Iran, have to have a knock-down over the Nuc factor.
The way things are lining up... my "guess" is within less than 6 months from now. Israel will be victorious, but with heavy casualties. Iran may be knocked out of the picture. That may be what causes Russia to march. Just a guess there.
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Is it possible for the Gog of Magog battle to come as a surprise attack against Israel, just to keep them from bombing Iran? Just a thought that keeps popping into my mind.
Yah, I've thought about that too, and think that Russia could very well be the ones to "surprise" attack Israel. In fact, I believe it will some day. I just don't know the timing of it all. Will Iran attack first, with the help of Russia? Or will Russia attack all on it's own? Or will Iran attack all on it's own first? I don't know. The "battles" of Armageddon commencing in whatever order they do is what I don't know for sure. I don't think anyone does yet. And... as a pre-trib rapture believer, I don't think we (Christians) will know that since we will already be long gone by then. Can I get a loud "Yee Haaa!!" on that Arley?? LOL!! 
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And, Matthew-59 commented on the fact that Pentecost is on Sabbath,
Oops! A tad bit off perhaps... I said Rosh Hashanah, not Pentecost. Or do you believe they are one in the same? If so, I've never heard that one before.
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and wondered how often that happened. Intrigued, I did a search, and found that back to 1967, at least, the occurrence was every two to four years. Checking forward, I found that this year is the last year this will happen until 2022. I do not know if there is anything to consider with the blank area, other than so many Prophecies, and Seer projections that point to this time, 2009-2017, being of prime possibility for a good old fashioned seven year Tribulation. Dewey Bruton's 'Daniel's Timeline' teaching, coupled with Mark Biltz's teaching on the Feasts, and the 2014/15 Eclipses, all seem to tie together.
"...all seem to tie together." <<<Funny how that is, huh?? Yup! God knows what He's doing. I'll just follow along, and watch where He's going with all of this. Now there's a big YEE HAAA!!! If I ever seen one.
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By the by, Mat 24:42 only addresses the 'hour' that we who watch will not know. No one knows when the New Moon will be sighted, from Jerusalem, to start Tishri-1, but we can sure, scientifically guess within a few minutes (clouds excepted).
Bob, what could be a 'big surprise,' if we guess wrong? The only negative I can see is that you-all will have to put up with me a while longer. I am not saying the 'Sky is Falling,' I am saying: 'The Sky is filling with Home-coming Clouds.' Yeee-Haaa!
In Messiah, His Shalom, and watchfulness. Arley
Spot on, Arley. Nothing wrong with watching and praying for Christ Jesus' soon return and checking out the signs of the times according to bible prophecy. The only "wrong" would be if that were "all" we did. Yes, we must continue to spread the gospel until that glorious day... but we can be watching for that day at the same time. I think this is what Hal is doing as well... as a watchman on the wall. There are at least 5 main crowns we can receive when we get to Heaven. One is the "watchers" crown. I'm gettin' that one for sure, and hopefully a few others as well.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 1:07:23 PM
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Thought you guys would like this:
Signs Point Toward ‘Cataclysmic’ War in Middle East
And a big, ole YEEEEE-HAAAAAA from me!!! Can't wait to meet y'all on the way up!!! 
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 1:09:07 PM
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Matthew-59, Shalom.
You said:
"Oops! A tad bit off perhaps... I said Rosh Hashanah, not Pentecost. Or do you believe they are one in the same? If so, I've never heard that one before."
You'r right, I miss-remembered. Pentecost, and Rosh Hashanah, are definitely stand-alone Feasts. I am still having a haunting about this Pentecost, for some reason, and the name jumps into my typing, sometimes where I do not intend to place it. I cannot put any physicality to the haunting, so have no idea why May 31 (Sivan 8) keeps rattling around in the Echo chamber. Keep a watch on that Sat/Sun Hebrew day.
Keep the Watch.
In Messiah, His Shalom, and Keen-Vision. Arley
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 1:22:38 PM
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I am still having a haunting about this Pentecost, for some reason, and the name jumps into my typing, sometimes where I do not intend to place it. I cannot put any physicality to the haunting, so have no idea why May 31 (Sivan 8) keeps rattling around in the Echo chamber. Keep a watch on that Sat/Sun Hebrew day.
Keep the Watch.
In Messiah, His Shalom, and Keen-Vision. Arley
So is May 31 Pentecost on the Hebrew calendar? If you can put your finger on why it's rattling around in your head, I'd love to hear it!
Honestly, if the pre-trib view is correct, I don't see how we're going to even make it to September! But some people call me crazy! 
Edit: Just came across this: http://www.christianitynotchurchianity.blogspot.com/ It's just a "blog"...not a news source or any kind. But interesting. Eh?
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 1:55:34 PM
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Peter_Gunn, Shalom.
The mechanical Hebrew calendar says that Shavuot/Pentecost is on May 28/29, but based upon the New Moon sighting (God's pure timepiece), the fifty days is on the 30/31st. We wont know how critical it is to use which system, but the mechanical calendar is the only one we can use to calculate events in the future with, since no one knows the exact day or hour of any New Moon, as sighted from Jerusalem.
I can say only one thing about Pentecost, and that is a total: IMO, and that is that Pentecost may well have an active part to play, not only in the Spring Feasts, but also the Fall. Simple logic: Three major Feasts, where all adult men must go to Jerusalem, Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles. Passover, the crucifixion/resurrection is fully filled. Tabernacles, is yet to be fulfilled, on Christ's return to rule.
Pentecost, on the other hand, has to do with the Holy Spirit, descending upon the Disciples, following Christ's Ascension. IMO, God seems to love 'balance, in His creation, and probably would not leave Tabernacles hanging out there, on the end, without the balance of Pentecost leveling the playing field, and tying both ends of Jesus' Prophetic happenings together. Therefore, the echo bouncing around in my skull, makes me think that something to do with the Holy Spirit might be tied in to the End-times happenings. The only thing that I can think of is that the Rapture, could happen, but since everyone hates that type thinking, I won't say a word about it, lest the Nay-Sayer's give me the old 'Raspberry' and 'Hooting-Nanny.' So don't no one even ask me about the possibility of me being wrong, and the Rapture possibly being earlier than I believe, or hope. But, as soon as I have anything tangible, I will be Yeee-Haaa'ing all over the place.
In Messiah, His Shalom, and Critical Eye. Arley
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 2:20:31 PM
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Peter-Gunn, Shalom.
"Edit: Just came across this: http://www.christianitynotchurchianity.blogspot.com/ It's just a "blog"...not a news source or any kind. But interesting. Eh? "
Thanks. He says, much as I would, if I could.
Though many will put me down, for my excitement about the possibilities of Rapture, and Soon Coming of Christ. IMO, we need to have an Old Fashioned PEP-RALLY (Football talk), or REVIVAL (Jesus talk), to wake up everyone around us to the times we live in. So what if the unbelieving, Neigh-Sayer (horse-talk) think we are NUTS. It won't be long before folks of that ilk will be hunting Christians, and Jews down, thinking they are doing God (the one who isn't) a favor. Let us go out singing and dancing before our Lord, rather than slinking, and wailing on what we are about to lose. Yeee-Haaa!! (Sailor for: It is Messiah, Jesus, I follow, gladly).
Sorry, I get carried away most of the time, and hopefully soon, by Him, of course.
In Messiah, His Shalom, and Filed Flight-plan. Arley
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 3:22:19 PM
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[The way things are lining up... my "guess" is within less than 6 months from now. Israel will be victorious, but with heavy casualties. Iran may be knocked out of the picture. That may be what causes Russia to march.
No, Russia does not march on Israel until the midpoint of Daniel's 70th Week (the Gog-Magog battle). Ezekiel 38 indicates that Israel will be "recovering from a time of war" BEFORE the antichrist sets up the seven year peace treaty. Therefore, a battle between Israel and Iran that does not involve Russia, but may involve other Middle Eastern forces, is in view here.
Interestingly, one of the major threats to Israel that may have joined in, Iraq, has been taken out. Intersting how this is all coming into focus.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 5:08:17 PM
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yzf-r1, Shalom.
You said: "No, Russia does not march on Israel until the midpoint of Daniel's 70th Week (the Gog-Magog battle). Ezekiel 38 indicates that Israel will be "recovering from a time of war" BEFORE the antichrist sets up the seven year peace treaty. Therefore, a battle between Israel and Iran that does not involve Russia, but may involve other Middle Eastern forces, is in view here. "
I am confused with your account of time. If the Gog attack is not until mid-trib, so 'that Israel is recovering from a time of war' before the AC can set up a seven year...... If Israel is coming out of war so the treaty can be made up, wouldn't that put the Gog attack at or before the seven year treaty? That way, the AC can break the treaty at the mid-point, as written. IMO, a war between Israel, and Iran, only, makes no sense, since Iran has to be involved in the Gog attack. Something has to scare Israel, and the Arab Nations quite badly, to have them all sign a Peace Treaty, considering the hatreds involved.
I probably am misunderstanding your meaning, or something.
Elaboration would be appreciated.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 5:17:10 PM
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Shalom, All.
I may have a couple of things to consider. We all, purdy-much agree that Israel, and Iran, have to have a knock-down over the Nuc factor.
The way things are lining up... my "guess" is within less than 6 months from now. Israel will be victorious, but with heavy casualties. Iran may be knocked out of the picture. That may be what causes Russia to march. Just a guess there.
Israel will bomb some Iranian nuke facilities. There will be no invasion. Iran will cry to the UN. Russia will condemn the attack. US will stifle it's own glee. Iran might throw some more money at Hizzbollah to increase pressure, but there will not be direct retaliation. Remember Iranian elections are coming up. Nothing will happen until those results come in.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 5:22:21 PM
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Let's face it, Israel has been in a state of constant unrest since 1948 (as predicted), but my understanding of the Ezekiel 38 (and overall 70th Week) scenario is:
1. Relatively minor (relative to what will happen later), localized battle, prior to the seven year peace accord, but intense enough that it takes a significant period for Israel to fully recover, indicating the losses are far more than past little skirmishes.
2. Antichrist revealed, sets up seven year peace accord.
3. Israel is at peace and prosperous, living 'without walls and gates and bars' for 3-1/2 years. They rebuild the temple in Jerusalem.
4. Russia takes note of their prosperity, and decides to attack to "plunder and take booty" coincident to the time the antichrist is in Jerusalem, when he commits the "abomination that causes desolation" in the newly rebuilt temple
5. Literally, all hell breaks loose on earth
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 5:24:47 PM
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[The way things are lining up... my "guess" is within less than 6 months from now. Israel will be victorious, but with heavy casualties. Iran may be knocked out of the picture. That may be what causes Russia to march.
No, Russia does not march on Israel until the midpoint of Daniel's 70th Week (the Gog-Magog battle). Ezekiel 38 indicates that Israel will be "recovering from a time of war" BEFORE the antichrist sets up the seven year peace treaty. Therefore, a battle between Israel and Iran that does not involve Russia, but may involve other Middle Eastern forces, is in view here.
Interestingly, one of the major threats to Israel that may have joined in, Iraq, has been taken out. Intersting how this is all coming into focus.
Right. Notice I "didn't" say Russia would march immediately after Iran's attack on Israel, or Israel's attack on Iran (which ever way it goes). I merely stated that the Nuc war between Iran and Israel, with Iran being knocked off the picture, is what "may" cause Russia to march. It may be months or even years later. Like I said, I don't know the timing of it all. Plus, noboby knows how long a Nuc war between Israel and Iran would last. That too could take months or even years, although, once the Nuc is dropped, I doubt it will be long after that until the war is over. Then it "may" be Russia who marches next. And yes, that could be during the midpoint of Daniel's 70th week = tribulation's 7 Jewish calendar years = 2,560 Jewish calendar days; which the midpoint would be at 3 ½ Jewish calendar years = 1,260 Jewish calendar days.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 5:27:49 PM
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So what if the unbelieving, Neigh-Sayer (horse-talk) think we are NUTS.
I just hope it's cashews. I love those! LOL!!
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 5:37:37 PM
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The point is this possible Iran-Israel conflict will not occur during the first 3-1/2 years of Daniel's 70th Week, the 3-1/2 years of peace, otherwise no one would pay much attention to the antichrist or worship him. He will bring REAL peace, REAL change (sound familiar?) although it will be short lived.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 6:06:53 PM
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Here's a thought that's been on my mind for some time, concerning....
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2. Antichrist revealed, sets up seven year peace accord.
Most prophecy teachers like Hal, Jack, John Hagee, etc, etc. always say there will be a 7 year peace treaty signed by the anti-Christ and the nations at war with Israel.
Here's my question....
Is it written and thought of as a 7 year treaty at the time of signing, or will it simply just last that long?? Reason I ask: Who in their right mind would sign it if it actually stated right on it that it was only going to last for 7 years? We know according to bible prophecy that the treaty will only last for 7 years, but don't you think the treaty will not be specific about the duration? Most likely at the time of signing, it will be thought by all who sign, that it will last forever. That just sounds logical to me. Perhaps of no real importance regarding end time events, but just a thought to consider.
Actually, I thought the treaty will be broken at the midpoint of 3½ years. If that's true, then the 7 years indication is perhaps only a reference point upon which one can deduct the time of Christ's return to stop the battles of Armageddon and Israel from being totally wiped out. The countdown to said event is started at the signing of that treaty. From that date, one can then count 2,560 days (7 Jewish calendar years) until Christ's return. What I'm saying is that perhaps the 7 year indication really has nothing to do with the treaty itself, but Christ's return as it relates with that treaty. Hmmm...??
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 6:32:24 PM
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Is it written and thought of as a 7 year treaty at the time of signing, or will it simply just last that long?
It will only last 3-1/2 years, since at the midpoint the antichrist goes into the temple and declares himself to be god, effectively declaring war with the true God, and judgment immediately follows.
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Reason I ask: Who in their right mind would sign it if it actually stated right on it that it was only going to last for 7 years?
These types of short term peace accords are nothing new
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_Accords
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The countdown to said event is started at the signing of that treaty. From that date, one can then count 2,560 days (7 Jewish calendar years) until Christ's return.
Yes. The number of days of the Great Tribulation are recorded several times in Revlation, and also in Daniel. But the start of that period is a mystery. The world will be caught off guard, "caught in a snare".
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 8:09:33 PM
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These types of short term peace accords are nothing new
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_Accords
I hadn't thought about that. You may be right. Still though, I wonder if a treaty of the magnitude that will be signed by the anti-Christ would be accepted with that same level of agreements or peace accords. We're talking about a major world event between many countries.... as far as I know. But then again, peace at any price (or time span) may be accepted as opposed to the alternative of continuing war. They may be so desperate for peace, as I'm sure Israel already is, that they might grab at the chance to have at least some kind of "guarantee" of peace for the 7 years which might be indicated on that treaty. In other words, 7 years is better than nothing. But of course, we know it won't last that long, but at the time of the signing, they won't know that yet.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 8:24:20 PM
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He will bring REAL peace, REAL change (sound familiar?) although it will be short lived.
Yah, unfortunately, it does sound all too familiar. I would comment further, but it wouldn't fit the parameters of this thread. So, all I can say is: "O". Need I say more?
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 8:27:33 PM
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As I understand Koran, Islam is forbidden to sign an eternal (open ended) Treaty with any Nation not of Islam. Islamic Nations are allowed to sign Hudna (specific duration treaties) to allow them time to take advantage, or regroup the forces, but can be broken at any time, without being guilty of a Lie. So the treaty must be for a specific length of time, just like the one everyone is pressuring Israel to honor, even though it has gone way beyond the time frame, and the Arabs have fulfilled none of their end of the bargain, where Israel has already given up the Gaza.
The Antichrist is allowed 3.5 years, but that is the back half, and called 'Great Tribulation.' The first 3.5 years is the other half of Jacobs trouble, and is bad, but nothing like the second half, after AC or FP places the abomination in the Temple.
I just watched a show on Lamb and Lion, with David Reagan interviewing a guy who says that the first war, upcoming, is between Israel, and the adjoining Arab Nations, in accord with Psalm 83. He says that fills the part about Israel living 'safe' and in the 'middle' as Israel will defeat all five Arab Nations, and retake much of the land God gave to Abraham, thus becoming quite wealthy. Russia, as Gog of Magog, attacks later on, to take booty, and to plunder. I may have to read that book. Check out: www.prophecydepot.com to find out about the book, as it just came on the market a short time ago. Amazon and B&N also sell the book I guess.
I do not like to think that all my study has a flaw in it, but this guy's arguments are strong. Sorry, I was so busey listening to the dialogue, I didn't get his name. I will review the program again, and then will know his name. He has to be OK, as he came from the same town as one of my Step-mothers owned a bar in.  Ha, but no Yee-Haa.
If the times are not accurate, as written, then the Bible is not accurate, and we chase a False God. N O T !
As written, is how it goes. All we have to do is put the times together so that they fit. That is where I trust Dewey Bruton, with his teaching of Daniels Timeline. His number collation, seems to work fantastic. Yeee-Haaa! (and worth every Yeee, and Haaa, offered) www.danielstimeline.com is the place to go. (If only I was a paid employee, I would be getting rich with that teaching. Ha)
To one and all, in Messiah, His Shalom, and accurate Chronology. Arley
Baruch HaBah Yaushuah HaMoshiach. Amen
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 8:29:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: Matthew-59
We're talking about a major world event between many countries
I doubt it, just the usual Middle East players. The antichrist will have such diplomatic power and will be such a great salesman (remember, he has a mortal wound to the head which is healed, so people will tend to listen), that he will make this pseudo peace happen. I think Obama is kind of a precursor to this guy, very charismatic.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/14/2009 8:50:20 PM
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The Antichrist is allowed 3.5 years, but that is the back half, and called 'Great Tribulation.' The first 3.5 years is the other half of Jacobs trouble, and is bad, but nothing like the second half, after AC or FP places the abomination in the Temple.
Right. I agree. That's my understanding too.
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I just watched a show on Lamb and Lion, with David Reagan interviewing a guy who says that the first war, upcoming, is between Israel, and the adjoining Arab Nations, in accord with Psalm 83. He says that fills the part about Israel living 'safe' and in the 'middle' as Israel will defeat all five Arab Nations, and retake much of the land God gave to Abraham, thus becoming quite wealthy. Russia, as Gog of Magog, attacks later on, to take booty, and to plunder. I may have to read that book. Check out: www.prophecydepot.com to find out about the book, as it just came on the market a short time ago. Amazon and B&N also sell the book I guess.
I do not like to think that all my study has a flaw in it, but this guy's arguments are strong. Sorry, I was so busey listening to the dialogue, I didn't get his name. I will review the program again, and then will know his name. He has to be OK, as he came from the same town as one of my Step-mothers owned a bar in. Ha, but no Yee-Haa.
Sounds interesting. If you do get that guys name, let us know. Also, is there a website for the Lion & Lamb program? I've seen that before I think, but not lately. Post that info too if you can find it. Thanks.
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If the times are not accurate, as written, then the Bible is not accurate, and we chase a False God. N O T !
As written, is how it goes. All we have to do is put the times together so that they fit. That is where I trust Dewey Bruton, with his teaching of Daniels Timeline. His number collation, seems to work fantastic. Yeee-Haaa! (and worth every Yeee, and Haaa, offered) www.danielstimeline.com is the place to go.
Do you know if or how Dewey Bruton's teachings match up with Hal Lindsey, Jack Van Impe, Grant Jeffrey, or Perry Stone's teaching? I would imagine they all must be pretty close. I especially like Perry Stone's teaching on this stuff because he really gets more into the Hebraic aspect of things. Since I have never heard of Dewey Bruton, I don't know where he's coming from. I may have to check it out. Thanks for the info Arley.
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