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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/23/2009 2:34:05 PM
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We had an alert that would be called, over the 1MC, on the ship when we were entering a storm area: "Stand-by for Heavy Rolls." May I convey this same alert to every citizen of our country. If, somehow, President Obama forces Israel to give up all of Jerusalem, as reported by Hal, and other news sources, God will probably sink half of California into the Pacific, just to show us He 'IS,' and we have deliberately gone against His warning of harming the apple of His eye. BOAKYBG!
Thy Will be Done. Thy Will be Done. Thy Will be Done. Thy Will be Done. Thy Will be Done. I just have to keep reminding myself, and telling God (not that He needs me to remind Him of anything  ).
This is a bad joke, so if easily insulted, or scared, please read below this section, in red: Rapture is, IMO, getting so close, I will have to quite sleeping in the buff, lest I embarrass myself.
I guess there isn't much else to say, so to all you who skipped my words in red, thank you for being considerate.
In Messiah, His Shalom, and Royal: Yeeeeee-Haaaaaaaa!!! Arley
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/23/2009 8:20:02 PM
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Those who are able to listen and see Hal Lindsey, does he mention that he has a ministry over
in Israel to evangelize them before the "rapture"? I was under the impression that their laws
will not let non-Jewish doctrine to be allowed. Just wondering!
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/25/2009 4:04:22 PM
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5/25/09 Watchman Warning
I'm going to start a thread for the specific topic of this Watchman Warning, but I just wanted to post it here, too...FYI.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/25/2009 5:35:19 PM
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Retrobyter
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Shalom, Matthew-59.
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Here is an excerpt from an article written by Christians United For Israel's executive director David Brog. Now I know this isn't Hal Lindsey who wrote this, but I do know he would definitly agree with it.
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Netanyahu Cometh- May 18, 2009
As I write this on Monday morning, Binyamin Netanyahu is about to arrive at the White House for the much anticipated first meeting between the new Israeli Prime Minister and the new American President. Netanyahu postponed this visit by a few weeks so that he could finish formulating his government's policies on the peace process. Now he will present these proposals to President Obama in person.
Many friends of Israel are worried that President Obama will pressure Netanyahu into making risky territoritorial concessions before there is a reliable Palestinian partner to receive them. There is reason for such concern. The Administration has sent a series of strong signals that it intends to obtain a peace agreement on an expedited basis. Such talk of a quick peace raises the question of whether the Administration is sufficiently wary of the difficult realities which have so often turned the best of intentions into the most tragic of results.
Yet we cannot judge the Administration on the basis of signals and conjecture. The fact is that we do not yet know what Netanyahu will propose. Nor do we know how Obama will respond. We will know a lot more Monday night than we do Monday morning. And we will probably get the most important. details in the weeks and months to come. As these facts emerge, we will be able to judge the Administration by the only relevant criteria: its actions.
The Israelis have shown a strong and consistent interest in peace and a two-state solution. They have repeatedly elected prime ministers who campaigned on the promise to aggresivley pursue land-for-peace policies. We need to remember that most Israelis don't view land for peace as a gift to the Palestinians. They see withdrawing from the West Bank and Gaza as the only way to preserve Israel as both a Jewish and a democratic state. If Israel retains these heavily populated Arab territories, most experts believe that these Arabs will outnumber Israel's Jews in the very near future.
Yet while Israelis may support land for peace in priciple, they have grown wary of it in practice. Israel's withdrawal from southern Lebanon was followed by thousands of Hezbollah missiles landing in northern Israel. Israel's withdrawal from Gaza was rewarded by thousands of Hamas missiles landing in southern Israel. Israelis understand that if the strategic high ground of the West Bank fell into Hamas' hands, Israel's major population and industrial centers would all be within range of Hamas missiles.
Thus there is a reason why Israelis elected Binyamin Netanyahu. Concessions have not brought progress.
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To read the entire article, click here.
It's now Monday evening, and I haven't heard how or even if the meeting went between Obama and Netanyahu. I'm pretty sure Netanyahu won't give land for peace, because that's what he has said before. I actually heard and saw him on Glenn Beck's show on CNN a year or so ago. That's when he stated that giving land for peace won't work because it hasn't in the past. I'll be very interested to hear how or if his meeting with Obama went. I'm also sure Hal will most likely be talking on this subject on this week's program. Don't want to miss that one.
I get the distinct impression that many people confuse the West Bank with the Golan Heights. I think that Christians especially need to understand what the "West Bank" really entails.
It includes almost all of the mountainous region of Isra'el which includes such cities as Bethlehem, Hebron, Bethel, Bethany, and all the way down to the plains west of the Jordan River including cities like Jericho, Bethel, and Shiloh. It stretches from just south of Nazareth in the north to Beer-Sheba in the south! It even includes most of Jerusalem, including the Jewish Quarter! It IS Isra'el!
Would YOU give up the land, say, from the Rockies to the Mississipi River, for peace?! Is it reasonable to give such land to people who don't even want you to exist?! Would we be willing to give the Louisiana Purchase back to France? Would we be willing to give Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico back to Mexico? Such a move with no real assurance of peace if that land is given up is ridiculous! It's INSANE! We should not expect such concessions from Isra'el.
It's OUTRAGEOUS that Obama or any other world leader should ask them to so concede!
Roy
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/25/2009 5:58:20 PM
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Would YOU give up the land, say, from the Rockies to the Mississipi River, for peace?! Is it reasonable to give such land to people who don't even want you to exist?! Would we be willing to give the Louisiana Purchase back to France? Would we be willing to give Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico back to Mexico? Such a move with no real assurance of peace if that land is given up is ridiculous! It's INSANE! We should not expect such concessions from Isra'el.
It's OUTRAGEOUS that Obama or any other world leader should ask them to so concede!
Roy
Of course, you're right, Roy...but remember who will be "brokering" the "peace treaty." The great Deceiver, himself. 
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/25/2009 6:00:13 PM
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Roy, Shalom.
Sadly, I fear that the 'Strong Delusion,' spoken of, is in place. I can only find one other answer to this, which I see as sheer Insanity, and that being that the world is sane, and it is me that be Insane. But, if I am sane enough to think that I may be insane, I cannot possibly be insane. Three years of Psychology taught me that, if nothing else.
We can only pray that God's Will be done, as only He could keep track of all I see going on, and all that I expect to see going on. I no longer quip about the time being Great, as it is hard to Grin, and cry, simultaneously. We must pray until our hearts break, that this state of Great Tribulation, coming upon the world, cleans the Tares out with minimal pain to the Faithful 'Crop.'
In Messiah, His Strength to Endure. Arley
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/25/2009 8:50:58 PM
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I get the distinct impression that many people confuse the West Bank with the Golan Heights. I think that Christians especially need to understand what the "West Bank" really entails.
It includes almost all of the mountainous region of Isra'el which includes such cities as Bethlehem, Hebron, Bethel, Bethany, and all the way down to the plains west of the Jordan River including cities like Jericho, Bethel, and Shiloh. It stretches from just south of Nazareth in the north to Beer-Sheba in the south! It even includes most of Jerusalem, including the Jewish Quarter! It IS Isra'el!
Would YOU give up the land, say, from the Rockies to the Mississipi River, for peace?! Is it reasonable to give such land to people who don't even want you to exist?! Would we be willing to give the Louisiana Purchase back to France? Would we be willing to give Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico back to Mexico? Such a move with no real assurance of peace if that land is given up is ridiculous! It's INSANE! We should not expect such concessions from Isra'el.
It's OUTRAGEOUS that Obama or any other world leader should ask them to so concede!
Roy
I most certainly agree that giving up land for peace is a no win situation and very dangerous even. Like Netanyahu once said, it has never worked in the past. Both Roy and Arley brought up the word insane, and it reminds me of something John Hagee once said; "If you keep doing the same thing and expect different results, that's the perfect definition of insanity". Very true! If Israel continues to give up land for peace, it will only cause more trouble and not work for peace anyway like it never has before, so they will not only lose land area again, but also not gain the peace they wanted to achieve through that bargaining chip.
I now firmly believe that the only peace Israel will see in the near future will come from the... dare I even say it... *gasp* ...signing of the 7 year peace treaty that will be instituted by the anti-Christ. However, we know through biblical study that this is only a short lived or false sense of peace. Only Jesus Christ's return to Israel will bring lasting peace there... and all over the world at the same time. I doubt if anyone would argue that, except those who don't believe that Jesus Christ is the messiah. But... we won't talk about that here. Obviously, I believe He is the messiah who will bring true and lasting peace. I'm tired of this sin sick, war torn, disease infested, world we now live in. And to that I say; Come quickly Lord Jesus!
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/25/2009 10:37:48 PM
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Shalom, Matthew-59.
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ORIGINAL: Matthew-59
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ORIGINAL: Retrobyter
I get the distinct impression that many people confuse the West Bank with the Golan Heights. I think that Christians especially need to understand what the "West Bank" really entails.
It includes almost all of the mountainous region of Isra'el which includes such cities as Bethlehem, Hebron, Bethel, Bethany, and all the way down to the plains west of the Jordan River including cities like Jericho, Bethel, and Shiloh. It stretches from just south of Nazareth in the north to Beer-Sheba in the south! It even includes most of Jerusalem, including the Jewish Quarter! It IS Isra'el!
Would YOU give up the land, say, from the Rockies to the Mississipi River, for peace?! Is it reasonable to give such land to people who don't even want you to exist?! Would we be willing to give the Louisiana Purchase back to France? Would we be willing to give Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico back to Mexico? Such a move with no real assurance of peace if that land is given up is ridiculous! It's INSANE! We should not expect such concessions from Isra'el.
It's OUTRAGEOUS that Obama or any other world leader should ask them to so concede!
Roy
I most certainly agree that giving up land for peace is a no win situation and very dangerous even. Like Netanyahu once said, it has never worked in the past. Both Roy and Arley brought up the word insane, and it reminds me of something John Hagee once said; "If you keep doing the same thing and expect different results, that's the perfect definition of insanity". Very true! If Israel continues to give up land for peace, it will only cause more trouble and not work for peace anyway like it never has before, so they will not only lose land area again, but also not gain the peace they wanted to achieve through that bargaining chip.
I now firmly believe that the only peace Israel will see in the near future will come from the... dare I even say it... *gasp* ...signing of the 7 year peace treaty that will be instituted by the anti-Christ. However, we know through biblical study that this is only a short lived or false sense of peace. Only Jesus Christ's return to Israel will bring lasting peace there... and all over the world at the same time. I doubt if anyone would argue that, except those who don't believe that Jesus Christ is the messiah. But... we won't talk about that here. Obviously, I believe He is the messiah who will bring true and lasting peace. I'm tired of this sin sick, war torn, disease infested, world we now live in. And to that I say; Come quickly Lord Jesus!
That's right. Kinda reminds me of ...
Jer 8:11-12
11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
12 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall be cast down, saith the Lord.
KJV
Roy
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/28/2009 10:20:21 PM
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Most of the best economic analysts are predicting big time inflation next year. All this crazy spending, with less and less world confidence in the dollar will catch up with Obama and our reckless nation as a whole, sadly...and the decline of the U.S. fits the prophetical scenario
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/28/2009 11:24:09 PM
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Yes there will be inflation and if this government is slow on increasing interest rates to counter the inflation it will be hyperinflation. These are indeed tricky times and so far I’ve not seen anyone in this government sharp enough to understand what’s going on.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/29/2009 12:02:01 AM
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You both are absolutely right... unfortunately. It makes me sad to see what's happening to our nation. If our first President George Washington were alive today and could see how far down this nation has gone since his day, I'll bet he would fall to his knees and weep bitterly... crying out to God for help to restore this nation back to the greatness she once was.
But... as yzf-r1 said, the decline of the U.S.A. fits the prophetic scenario. To me, this is even more proof that we are very close to seeing Jesus. It may be sooner than some people think. Perhaps today, tomorrow, next week, next month, next year... I don't know, but yes, I believe we are that close. And praise the Lord, I'm ready to go!! 
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/29/2009 1:26:44 AM
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But... as yzf-r1 said, the decline of the U.S.A. fits the prophetic scenario.
Actually, it's something Hal has been saying for a long time, but it makes sense that the U.S. will swiftly decline as an economic, military, and political superpower, and Europe will rise. Soon, the 10 core nations of old Rome, the 10 horns of Revelation 17 and Daniel 2, will emerge as a new world power and rival/surpass China and Russia.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/29/2009 11:30:00 AM
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But... as yzf-r1 said, the decline of the U.S.A. fits the prophetic scenario.
Actually, it's something Hal has been saying for a long time, but it makes sense that the U.S. will swiftly decline as an economic, military, and political superpower, and Europe will rise. Soon, the 10 core nations of old Rome, the 10 horns of Revelation 17 and Daniel 2, will emerge as a new world power and rival/surpass China and Russia.
Yes, I too believe that's true. I believe we are already seeing that happening. I also believe it will be the anti-Christ who will institute this amalgamating of 10 nations. I think one of them will be the combination of the US, Canada, and Mexico (probably including some or all of Central America too). I thought I heard somewhere that Pres. Bush had agreed with this combining, calling it the "North American Union" (NAU). If it happens, I'll speculate that Pres. Obama will be it's leader, and we will no longer have elections here. At that point, he will become a dictator. I'll even further speculate by saying that he will probably be the one who answers to the anti-Christ, along with the other 9 leaders of each of the other of those 10 nations. Of course, the anti-Christ will be the main leader of them all. How the anti-Christ will be able to cause all nations, including Russia and China, to bow out of their own sovereignty and succumb to his, is yet to be seen. He will undoubtedly have to be a man of great charisma and mental prowess to come up with a scheme that will work to cause every nation to follow him. Scary stuff to even think about. 
But... Where is Israel going to fit into all that?? Hmmm...??
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 5/29/2009 7:44:40 PM
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I don't think I'm allowed to post the entire email update I get from him each week. That might be a TOS violation here. Not sure.
Yep, it is.
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RE: Hal Lindsey Report - 6/2/2009 12:31:03 AM
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If you have not watched this show yet, you need to, it is EXCELLENT
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