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belovedofgd -> Knowing, new movie (4/17/2009 10:11:20 AM)

Can't find a review/commentary on KNOWING....anyone seen it have some info? Thanks!



Retro80s -> RE: Knowing, new movie (4/17/2009 10:15:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: belovedofgd

Can't find a review/commentary on KNOWING....anyone seen it have some info? Thanks!


I started a thread on it a while back, but it did not get many responses...maybe only one or two.

My wife and I saw it. I thought it was okay. I did not like the angle the movie took. I can not really say too much without giving a major part of the movie away.



EmmaC -> RE: Knowing, new movie (4/28/2009 4:12:53 PM)

I read some really bad reviews of it...



jazzact13 -> RE: Knowing, new movie (4/30/2009 11:11:18 AM)

I saw it yesterday for the first time.

Interesting movie. I thought Cage did pretty well as a guy whose ideas and world view are crashing around him (given also that he's still recovering from his wife's death). The two crash scenes, the plane and the subway, were I thought effectively done--not overdone or cheesy, with not fake heroics.

There were some things that I didn't get. For example, what was the significance of the black rocks?

Other things the movie was I suppose intentionally vague about. What exactly were the "whisper people"? The scene where they shed their human appearance gives suggestions of both alien and angelic, but was vague, and the the descending to get the children looked more like a construct than anything from the picture taken from Ezekial (though I did get the impression they were trying to show the "wheel in a wheel").

The movie's main theme was a conflict between determinism and chaos, with the verdict being strongly in favor of determinism, almost to an extreme Calvinistic sense--the professor is unable to stop any disaster from happening, even with foreknowledge; only those who heard the call were 'saved', and even the desire on the professor's part to be saved is not enough to save him.

How the movie depicts prophecy is rather disturbing, especially if it's meant to mirror biblical prophecy. The young girl at the start of the movie is driven close to insanity by the voices she hears.

It's a good movie, one worth seeing. There is some language, but not much, and I don't recall anything sexual at all in it.

One thing I found amusing was the the world ends in a rather extreme case of "global warming", but it's pretty clear it was in no way man-made.



jazzact13 -> RE: Knowing, new movie (5/1/2009 10:31:42 AM)

Oh, one more thing to mention. The music in the movie was really good, especially their use of the excerpts from Beethoven's 7th Symphony. That's one of my favorite pieces of Classical music.



hangininthere -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/1/2009 2:06:34 AM)

The movie is an athiests dream and another attempt by Hollywood to devalue Christianity. There is no allegory in the movie. It takes what is presented in the Bible and alludes to the fact that it was all a result of alien intervention. In the movie Ezekial saw an alien in a spaceship instead of God. Angels are aliens and Adam and Eve were two children dropped off next to the tree of life. What the movie attempts to do is give meaning to athiests otherwise meaningless existance. I wouldn't take my kids to it.



ManimalX -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/9/2009 2:45:45 AM)

Very thought provoking disaster flick, with a good story, good acting, good directing, good score.

Spoilers ahead, can't really discuss any more of the movie without :)


I have to agree with jazzcat. This isn't an atheist's movie, unless it is a warning to atheists...

"I'm not going anywhere, son. If its my time, its my time. I'm ready whenever the good Lord calls me... are you?"

Even if the movie gets the the End Times mostly wrong (mostly by just not including much of the stuff that will accompany The End), there are quite a few parallels that it does get right. The movie seems to me maybe a taste of the helpless panic that will take place during the time of Tribulation for unbelievers. It doesn't matter what you know, what you do, where you go... the end is set no matter what. There is a passage of Scripture that says men wil crawl into caves and call for the Earth to swallow them, which reminds me of how frantic the female lead in this movie is to get to the caves and hide from disaster. Also, the Earth IS reserved for fire, see my signature line.

Again, agreeing with jazzcat, I get a sense of predestination, and a definite bent of Calvinism, as well as the fact that all the works you can do won't save you in the end.

The movie isn't meant to be a Gospel story, and it isn't meant to be an exact allegory, so to review it as such is futile. Aliens, or Angels? It is up to the viewer. However, there are enough Biblical themes that it should give the deep thinking Christian a lot to think about.

Unfortunately, Cage's character came to a Universalist decision in the end, opining that it doesn't matter, we will all be together soon. His son understood better, and Caleb got it right: "He says you can't go. Only the chosen must go, those who heard the call". Couldn't get much more Scriptural.



nealmorsefan -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/9/2009 11:11:51 AM)

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However, there are enough Biblical themes that it should give the deep thinking Christian a lot to think about.


Totally agree with this. Hollywood loves to dabble in spiritual themes because it gets us all riled up, which generally translates to higher volume at the box office.



ManimalX -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/10/2009 1:38:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: nealmorsefan

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ORIGINAL: ManimalX
However, there are enough Biblical themes that it should give the deep thinking Christian a lot to think about.


Totally agree with this. Hollywood loves to dabble in spiritual themes because it gets us all riled up, which generally translates to higher volume at the box office.


Absolutely. However, you can usually tell when a movie was written by just a bunch of Hollywood writers who never read one word of the Bible, or someone who had at least SOME passing familiarity with it, or at least took the time to do some research. Knowing seems to be one of the latter, at least. Not perfect, but engaging.



sunshine4God -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/10/2009 11:36:37 AM)

I just watched this movie last night and thought it was really cool.
They miss the point of what really happens at the end of the world,but it
was still really good and very interesting.



jodavi -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/12/2009 5:03:01 PM)

We saw it last night and really liked it at first since there were some jumpy scenes and I thought the guys in the wood were really creepy but when that spaceship showed up...my mouth was open and my jaw was hanging ...the same feeling I felt when I saw the last Indiana Jones. So it was a movie the I really liked at first and just left dissapointed because of the ending.



rrtt11 -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/16/2009 7:49:56 PM)

The movie was great in the special effects scenes but everything was extremely bleak with almost no hope.
There are a few chosen ones that are elected to go to paradise and everyone else dies.
This is not a calvanists movie (just a joke, but a funny joke)

Really it is a new age philosophy movie where only the elect or special will be chosen to move to the next step in evolution while everyone else dies. A common them in the new age.



c_h_b -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/17/2009 12:35:13 PM)

It started out as a supernatural thriller, then switched to scifi apocalyptic mush.

The ending was too derivative of "Childhood's End" for me.

It's a movie with lots of good elements which never seem to come together. I think it was edited down from a good, but overly long movie into a "popcorn movie" bit of junk.



worthaboverubies -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/22/2009 2:47:48 PM)

I thought this movie was an attack on christianity and the bible. Someone else thought it was spiritual. How she came away with that, I don't know.

Did anyone else catch that?



SuspenseWriter -> RE: Knowing, new movie (7/22/2009 3:28:40 PM)

I thought the movie was a mess (it's like they switched reels before the third act), and Nick Cage didn't look like he felt well (I'll be charitable blame it on his haircut). The FX, though, were pretty well done, and the plane crash and its aftermath was one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen.

But the ending was complete lunacy.



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