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| iPod |
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/25/2009 8:26:34 PM
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Martachoo
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I said just the car is a necessity for me. I need it to get to work. We have most of the things listed and it's nice to have. But if we had to give them up we could still live a decent life.
We use the air conditioner just a few weeks out of the year in Aug. We can hang clothes in the basement even in the winter. TV we can do without. We didn't get cell phones until recently. We hardly use it. The high speed internet I can get at work or at the library... So really just the car is what I need since I have no other way to get to work. I couldn't walk or take public transportation.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/26/2009 1:37:33 AM
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ORIGINAL: Harvie
Summers here are 110-115 with really bad air quality... people with health issues without access to air conditioners or evaporative coolers often end up in hospital emergency rooms or the morgue.
Harvie and I are only about an hour from each other (though, no we don't know each other, haven't met)..and we both agreed a.c around here is a necessity....I think that gives some evidence that some of this has a regional affect.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/26/2009 11:29:09 AM
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I picked everything except the ipod.
We don't really have a dishwasher or a/c rught now. We might need an a/c before summer is over because we live in an apartment and don't have any windows on the east or west sides of it.
I agree that it depends on where you live if you really need an air conditioner or not. Here in MI, it might get to 90 for a few days a year. OTOH, we lived in SW MO and the northern part of OK. Having an air conditioner in those places was just as important as having a furnace.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/26/2009 1:41:04 PM
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Consecrated2God
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Even in hot places, people lived for thousands of years and still do in many parts of the world without air conditioning. Do you think that maybe it's just something we've gotten so used to that our bodies can't physically handle heat anymore?
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/26/2009 1:48:53 PM
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all of the above are luxury items as you could quite happily live without all of them, you wouldn't die. i dont have a dishwasher or dryer or air thingy. i have a car but tis not neccessary just handy and i have a mobile phone (cell as you guys say) but again its not neccessary. where to spoilt these days
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/26/2009 1:52:25 PM
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OneOfHisJewels
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Even in hot places, people lived for thousands of years and still do in many parts of the world without air conditioning. Do you think that maybe it's just something we've gotten so used to that our bodies can't physically handle heat anymore?
I think that's part of it..I think those people also may (may have) cool/cooled off in rivers, or had their more active time in the evenings..do things we don't know about...I also think it has to do with the fact that so many of us are transplants...Africans have the dark skin to handle the dessert sun. I'm a fair skinned redhead...which was fine for my ancestors who lived in the cool regions of Scotland, Ireland, England and Germany(I'm also a speck of Italian, but not enough to really have the physcical characteristics)...however, here the fair skin and the hot climate don't mesh well...I find the summers difficult here (except for getting to go swimming)..sometimes I'd like to move to the coast, but it is expensive there.
Plus some of those people might not/might not have/had the pollution issue..notice, Harvie and I both mentioned the bad air quality.
Gardenrobin, are you in England?
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/26/2009 2:18:17 PM
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ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God
Even in hot places, people lived for thousands of years and still do in many parts of the world without air conditioning. Do you think that maybe it's just something we've gotten so used to that our bodies can't physically handle heat anymore?
You get used to it when you turn off the A/C. Your body will acclimate as soon as you don't have it.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/26/2009 3:09:35 PM
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ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God
Even in hot places, people lived for thousands of years and still do in many parts of the world without air conditioning. Do you think that maybe it's just something we've gotten so used to that our bodies can't physically handle heat anymore?
You get used to it when you turn off the A/C. Your body will acclimate as soon as you don't have it.
I agree with Stella.
I recall being miserable in the heat in another country--and no air conditioning in sight--and was talking to a young girl (just graduated from college) who was working there. She seemed perfectly comfortable, and she was from Minnesota. I asked her about it, and she said the first four weeks she was miserable and carried a wash cloth around with her to wipe of the sweat that was pouring off her head and face--but after four weeks she was acclimated and it no longer bothered her.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/26/2009 5:37:32 PM
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Clothes Dryer - yes.
Air Conditioner - Yes
T.V. - Yes, we do not have cable but with the digital tv transition cable is about to be a nessesity, even though we only get two channels and watch only one of them
Microwave - We got ours from free from our pastor when they upgraded the churches.
Dishwasher - I wish we had one of those, but we leave in a apartment so its is a luxury
iPod - Never had one, never plan on buying one unless I somehow become a millionare, I just don't see the point of having one when you can just listen to the radio for free
High Speed Internet - A definite must.
Home Computer - A must
Car -We live in a place where the public transportation is virtually
non-existent and you have to drive ten miles just to see anybody.
Cell phone - my whole family has thier own prepaid cellphone, but we never use them because we have unlimited local/long distance from At&t and I use my phone mainly for taking pictures.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/26/2009 9:06:02 PM
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Even in hot places, people lived for thousands of years and still do in many parts of the world without air conditioning. Do you think that maybe it's just something we've gotten so used to that our bodies can't physically handle heat anymore? I do think that has something to do with it. I have moderate to severe anxiety attacks when I feel closed in or get too warm. Needless to say...without a/c in the summer I don't get much sleep which in turn leads to a whole host of other issues. But I grew up as a kid without it until high school and I was fine. I think if no one had it, we would all adjust our lives. But given our lifestyles as they are....A/C in many areas is a necessity.
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Are these Necessities? - 4/27/2009 2:16:12 AM
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I put AC and cell phone.
AC because I just can't handle the heat. Cell phone because sometimes I get in a situation where I need someone to come and help me ASAP.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/27/2009 7:06:26 AM
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ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God
Even in hot places, people lived for thousands of years and still do in many parts of the world without air conditioning. Do you think that maybe it's just something we've gotten so used to that our bodies can't physically handle heat anymore?
Maybe, but I think buildings are built differently when it is assumed there will be AC. My husband and I went to Mexico a few summers ago and didn't have AC anywhere we went and were perfectly fine. We came home and found out that our AC had broken in our house while we were gone. The thermostat read 99*, only because it wouldn't go any higher. The house just wasn't built to not have the AC on during the summer. It's April right now, and not all that hot outside, but we had the fans on and the AC running yesterday to keep the inside temperature below 80* in our apartment.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/27/2009 10:09:17 AM
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Clothes Dryer
~ Yes. I live in an area with lots of trees and my clothes would be filthy if I hung them outside.
Air Conditioner
~ Yes.
T.V.
~ No but since I don't have cable I don't pay extra for it...I do pay to rent movies from Netflix though.
Microwave
~ No. I either cook the food or we eat fresh fruit and veggies. I'm not one for leftovers either.
Dishwasher
~ I put yes but I wouldn't say it's a necessity...Just a huge time saver.
iPod
~ For me it is...I have to have music and the radio signal is horrible in my house.
High Speed Internet
~ No. I go to my parents when I have to download stuff.
Home Computer
~ Yes. I do things on it that I can't do on my computer at work, but it's a laptop so I go to my parents when I need to get online.
Cell Phone
~ Yes. I don't have a land line. Although the boys phones aren't a necessity.
Car
~ Yes. I work about 30 miles from my house.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/27/2009 12:32:33 PM
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stellaluna
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Discuss luxuries vs. necessities.
Have your views of luxuries and necessities changed over time?
Only in that I am now able to really separate what is necessity from what is luxury. I certainly enjoy living with the things on the list (except that I don't have a car or dish washer or clothes dryer). Could I live without the things I do have? Yep. Would I like it? Probably not, at least at first.
I think people put themselves in situations where they must have something, i.e. a car. And I think people talk themselves into thinking they need other things, like a clothes dryer.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/28/2009 1:26:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God
Even in hot places, people lived for thousands of years and still do in many parts of the world without air conditioning. Do you think that maybe it's just something we've gotten so used to that our bodies can't physically handle heat anymore?
You get used to it when you turn off the A/C. Your body will acclimate as soon as you don't have it.
Yup, I agree. I left the East Coast and it's humidity 3 years ago, now I feel like I'm going to sweat to death when I visit and it's usually only about 85 degrees. However, we went almost 6 weeks in Colorado last summer without AC in July and the first part of August and were just fine with the doors and windows open/fans on. It probably ranged from 90-105 degrees during that time.
I definitely don't consider AC a necessity.
The only ones I chose were internet and a home computer, but really only because DH needs them for school classes. I wouldn't consider them a need otherwise, and really the things that we "need" them for can be done the old fashioned way.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/28/2009 1:40:22 PM
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None are necessities for me. I don't have an iPod anyway, and I don't use my dishwasher. The rest would be tough, of course, if they suddenly disappeared from the planet, but hey, I could get used to it.
But I do understand that when one takes into consideration their circumstances and/or profession, things can change.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/28/2009 3:13:31 PM
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I just finished reading a book by Terri Blackstock called "Last Light" where all the power just turns off all over the world for no apparent reason. Nothing works--not even cars and phones and watches and generators. It's really interesting to ponder how dependent on technology we have become.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/28/2009 3:40:57 PM
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It's really interesting to ponder how dependent on technology we have become.
I remember that you could go to some stores and the people would add the stuff with a paper and pencil, especially the small stores. Now if anything happened you couldn't even buy groceries..
The only ones that would be able to survive around here would be the Amish farmers.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/28/2009 4:49:33 PM
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Ironically, it is partly because of the AC that I stopped going to church. We odn't use AC at home. It's hot. Dress for it! I live in shorts or sundresses. The pastor insisted on keeping the auditorium at a very chilly 75*. Mind you, the auditorium seats 4,000. Imagine the cost!!! I got tired of freezing every week, even though I would bring a heavy sweater. Plus, why should our tithe be wasted like that? I have no problem bundling up in the winter, but I shouldn't need a parka inside in the summer!
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/28/2009 6:10:54 PM
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To my way of thinking, all of these things are necessities. Time is the one resource we have that is truly finite. I loathe anything that wastes it. Even though I excel at procrastination.
That said:
Clothes Dryer ~ It takes two to three days for my clothes to dry if I just hang them up. Considering my limited wardrobe after my last apartment burned down, I don't have time for this.
Air Conditioner ~ I don't need it at home since I live at the beach. In Burbank, where I work, you bet I need AC. Like others have mentioned, the air here can get deadly without it.
T.V. ~ Considering that I'm working toward a career in television, I must have one and watch as much as I can. DVR is fabulous when I need to break down a show's structure.
Microwave ~ Not only saves time, but it saves money. The stove at my new place is gas and I save money by nuking some items for a minute and a half instead of baking them for twenty.
Dishwasher ~ Don't have one yet, but it's high on the priority list. I'm not home a lot so I tend to grab food and run. That means dishes can sit on the counter for a month before I have time to get to them.
iPod/Cell Phone ~ I combined these because I have an MP3 player in my phone. The player is wonderful because it allows me to choreography synchro routines on the go and land drill them at meets before I have to swim. I also have a SwiMP3 that attaches to my goggles so I can work on routines in the water without a big sound system. Back to the phone...it's become almost as necessary as my arm. I have google maps on it that keeps me from getting lost and wasting gas. It even shows me traffic so I can divert to an alternate route ahead of time. I also have Word, Excel, PowerPoint and pdf capability in my phone. Word is great for helping me meet my daily writing deadlines if I don't get home in time to write on my computer. Excel is wonderful to help me keep my coupons and deals straight for my weekly shopping trips.
High Speed Internet ~ My second job depends on submitting reviews online. I also do all my banking online. The majority of my book promotion is done online as well. Right now, I have over twelve hundred emails to read and respond to. It would take a week to get through that many with dial up. With high speed, I can do it in a couple hours.
Home Computer ~ Because of the way computers store information, it's not a good idea to do any banking on work or other public computers. As I mentioned elsewhere, my second job depends on having a home computer. I couldn't do it otherwise. I also use it to write novels and scripts so it's kinda essential. I also need it to cut our routine music. The quality is so much better on a computer than if you used a tape recorder and just stopped and started the tapes.
Car ~ The office is 23 miles one way and I'm really not about to walk that. I'd never get there! Although, given how LA traffic is sometimes, it might be faster to walk;)
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/28/2009 7:32:15 PM
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Ironically, it is partly because of the AC that I stopped going to church. We odn't use AC at home. It's hot. Dress for it! I live in shorts or sundresses. The pastor insisted on keeping the auditorium at a very chilly 75*. Mind you, the auditorium seats 4,000. Imagine the cost!!! I got tired of freezing every week, even though I would bring a heavy sweater. Plus, why should our tithe be wasted like that? I have no problem bundling up in the winter, but I shouldn't need a parka inside in the summer!
See, I find 75 to be a bit on the warm side. For whatever reason, I get really hot, particularly inside. When the weather hits the 50's (sometimes sooner), I start wearing shorts. I can count on one hand the number of times I've worn long pants to work in the last month (I live in Boston, so it's not exactly balmy all the time). I never wear turtlenecks, even long sleeve shirts are tough a lot of times. It's one thing to be outside working when it's hot - I don't mind that too much, but there's something about being inside when it's hot and the air isn't moving that I find really uncomfortable. I'm prone to nosebleeds anyways, but hot indoor air makes it much worse.
I'd bet that most people in that sanctuary found 75 to be just about right.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/28/2009 11:31:58 PM
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I need a computer, internet, and cell phone b/c that is how I make my living; working from home.
My wife needs a car to get to work.
I love the air conditioner. I will cutback in eating out or other areas to keep the air on.
Microwave is no need.
Clothes dryer costs little money to use per month, so its not a big deal.
I have a daughter for a dishwasher - lol.
Can do without cable tv, not a big deal to me.
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