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Are these Necessities?
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| Clothes Dryer |
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| Air Conditioner |
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| Dishwasher |
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| iPod |
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/30/2009 12:32:32 PM
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Kerrlaw
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This thread is really messing with my mind, Cranky. Shame on you! 
I used to love to go visit my granny (well, great-granny, actually). She *did* have electricity, but only because one of her sons bullied her into getting it so she could run a refrigerator. So she had electric lights, too--in the form of bare bulbs that hung down from the ceiling. She never turned them on. If it was dark enough to need them, she was long in bed. And a small tv that someone in the family handed down to her. I am not sure if it even worked.
If you wanted water, you went out the back door and into the pump room, put the bucket under the pump and had at it. The water that came out was ice cold and tasted wonderful. They came through putting in water lines, but she refused because they would have to dig up everything to lay the lines and she didn't want to fool with that.
If you wanted *hot* water, you opened the lid on the container on the side of the stove. If you wanted it boiling, you put it in a pot and set it on an eye. You could lift the eyes off the stove with tongs to see if the fire was hot enough.
Her kitchen was exactly big enough to hold the cook stove, a small cupboard and a table that served double duty as a counter while preparing food and the place to put the big metal bowl that was the "sink" when you were washing dishes afterward. It had been smaller at one point (I can't imagine that), and when my great-grandfather proclaimed the kitchen "big enough," she took an axe to the walls while he was working (railroad) so he had no choice but make her a larger one.
In the winter, cooking in that kitchen was cozy and warm. In the summer it was miserable to me, but it didn't affect her at all. Once when she was sick, I cooked her dinner when it was 96* outside and who knows how hot inside over that cook stove. She laughed and said I looked sicker than she was.
She washed her clothes in the kitchen and dried them in the back yard. When she got older, we would go get her laundry and take it to the laundromat and do them there. She couldn't understand why--it took longer to do that than for one of us to wash them in the kitchen and hang them out. Unless it was raining.
She had a small radio for music and news, but she didn't like to turn it on. If you wanted entertainment, you read a book. For music, you made your own--preferably on the big pump organ that was her pride and joy. Unfortunately, the entire family had the musical ability of a collection of tin cans, but it was great fun to play with. And people talked to one another. Really talked.
If you showed her a computer or an iPod or a cell phone, she would say "Well, how about *that!* and that was it. She wouldn't want or need one, even if she thought they were fascinating.
She never had a car, but would ride in one if you insisted. Her brothers had cars, but she never saw a use for one. Her husband walked eleven miles to work every morning and eleven miles back, so if you needed to go farther than that (and there was no train) she would allow that a car was a nice convenience, but a horse would do you just as good.
She disliked air conditioning. It made her cold. So if you brought her to this town she had to stay with my grandmother (her daughter) who also hated air conditioning, but loved all the other conveniences. They both lived very long lives without it, through the hot, humid Dog Days when the rest of us were scrambling to get out of the heat.
The one thing I really hated about going there was the lack of indoor plumbing. I like flush toilets and think they are wonderful additions to any home or office. I do not want to put my pot under the bed or make a little trip out the back door to the outhouse. Outhouses smell bad, they are dark and I once saw a snake in there. After that, I would walk two miles to an uncle's house to use his bathroom (while hearing his hooting laugh at what a big baby I was). I didn't care. I hate snakes.
I really think indoor plumbing is a lot more important than electricity
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/30/2009 2:06:10 PM
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Consecrated2God
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You can have indoor plumbing without electricity. We are friends with some Old Order German Baptists and they have a windmill that pumps water and a gravity-operated water system that directs the plumbing to the toilet and through the wood burning cookstove on the way to the faucets, so they have flushable toilets and hot running water. They cool their leftovers in pans of cool water and then cover them and heat them thoroughly the next day before they eat them. They have their ways of living without the things we consider necessities, although I don't know how they stand the heat in the summer with the wood stove going, and wearing the long sleeves and bonnets and everything, too. On a sad note, our friend's father was killed Monday when a truck ran over his buggy. 
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/30/2009 2:56:39 PM
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judii1
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How about a toaster?
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 4/30/2009 7:46:53 PM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Ps103
This thread is really messing with my mind, Cranky. Shame on you!
I used to love to go visit my granny (well, great-granny, actually). She *did* have electricity, but only because one of her sons bullied her into getting it so she could run a refrigerator. So she had electric lights, too--in the form of bare bulbs that hung down from the ceiling. She never turned them on. If it was dark enough to need them, she was long in bed. And a small tv that someone in the family handed down to her. I am not sure if it even worked.
If you wanted water, you went out the back door and into the pump room, put the bucket under the pump and had at it. The water that came out was ice cold and tasted wonderful. They came through putting in water lines, but she refused because they would have to dig up everything to lay the lines and she didn't want to fool with that.
If you wanted *hot* water, you opened the lid on the container on the side of the stove. If you wanted it boiling, you put it in a pot and set it on an eye. You could lift the eyes off the stove with tongs to see if the fire was hot enough.
Her kitchen was exactly big enough to hold the cook stove, a small cupboard and a table that served double duty as a counter while preparing food and the place to put the big metal bowl that was the "sink" when you were washing dishes afterward. It had been smaller at one point (I can't imagine that), and when my great-grandfather proclaimed the kitchen "big enough," she took an axe to the walls while he was working (railroad) so he had no choice but make her a larger one.
In the winter, cooking in that kitchen was cozy and warm. In the summer it was miserable to me, but it didn't affect her at all. Once when she was sick, I cooked her dinner when it was 96* outside and who knows how hot inside over that cook stove. She laughed and said I looked sicker than she was.
She washed her clothes in the kitchen and dried them in the back yard. When she got older, we would go get her laundry and take it to the laundromat and do them there. She couldn't understand why--it took longer to do that than for one of us to wash them in the kitchen and hang them out. Unless it was raining.
She had a small radio for music and news, but she didn't like to turn it on. If you wanted entertainment, you read a book. For music, you made your own--preferably on the big pump organ that was her pride and joy. Unfortunately, the entire family had the musical ability of a collection of tin cans, but it was great fun to play with. And people talked to one another. Really talked.
If you showed her a computer or an iPod or a cell phone, she would say "Well, how about *that!* and that was it. She wouldn't want or need one, even if she thought they were fascinating.
She never had a car, but would ride in one if you insisted. Her brothers had cars, but she never saw a use for one. Her husband walked eleven miles to work every morning and eleven miles back, so if you needed to go farther than that (and there was no train) she would allow that a car was a nice convenience, but a horse would do you just as good.
She disliked air conditioning. It made her cold. So if you brought her to this town she had to stay with my grandmother (her daughter) who also hated air conditioning, but loved all the other conveniences. They both lived very long lives without it, through the hot, humid Dog Days when the rest of us were scrambling to get out of the heat.
The one thing I really hated about going there was the lack of indoor plumbing. I like flush toilets and think they are wonderful additions to any home or office. I do not want to put my pot under the bed or make a little trip out the back door to the outhouse. Outhouses smell bad, they are dark and I once saw a snake in there. After that, I would walk two miles to an uncle's house to use his bathroom (while hearing his hooting laugh at what a big baby I was). I didn't care. I hate snakes.
I really think indoor plumbing is a lot more important than electricity
I have thoroughly enjoyed reading absolutely every word of this post. I think I would have really liked your great-granny!
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/1/2009 11:59:44 PM
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Peloton
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Let's see...
The clothes dryer is a good idea in one of the dirtiest cities in the nation
Air conditioning is nice when it's above 100* (even if it is dry heat)
T.V. are ok for a while
Microwave ovens keep me from heating up the house and nuking the food is faster than heating the oven
A dishwasher helps when I can't move my fingers or grip anything
Don't need an I-pod
High Speed Internet comes as a package deal
Our cell phones are used in case of emergency when traveling because the CB is really short ranged and you don't know who is listening
The PU truck is my way to work through gang infested neighborhoods I wouldn't ride my bicycle through unarmed.
There are lots of things we don't need and could get by without, but they are sure nice to have when you need it, like my generator during a power failure.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/2/2009 12:18:20 AM
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Corne
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I'm surprised that microwaves rated so low. Mine is used a lot and saves on the electric bill.
If we're camping, we can sustain ourselves without electricity etc, but move that notion to a populated area and forget it. Modern life Does NEED electricity. The world is better for it. Safer, cleaner, etc.
Granted we should be able to sustain ourselves without it in emergencies but most of our modern population would be in dire and unsafe straights without it.
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Are these Necessities? - 5/2/2009 1:12:58 AM
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PinkCarnations
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With how often and for how long our power has gone out lately, I'm beginning to think that PG&E feels that Californians don't need electricity. 
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/3/2009 6:58:49 AM
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In the first 5 years we'd lived in this house we'd maybe lost power 3 or 4 times. In the last month we've lost power over half dozen times. What in tarnation is going on?
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/3/2009 10:42:37 AM
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PinkCarnations
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In the first 5 years we'd lived in this house we'd maybe lost power 3 or 4 times. In the last month we've lost power over half dozen times. What in tarnation is going on?
That's what I'd like to know!
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/3/2009 11:05:13 AM
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PinkCarnations
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ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings
They're conducting a "necessity experiment".
Your contributions to their findings are much appreciated, I'm sure.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/3/2009 8:44:10 PM
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I voted car and it better have a radio..... Get ya motor runnin, out on the highway, lookin for adventure and whatever comes are way....
Dishwasher on the cycle, with the T.V. blaring.. with internet we are sharing.. anything that comes are way
We are born technical childs, with ipods, cell phones and dryers,
Come on feel the micro wave, ave......
Puttin on the A.C., clicking on my P.C., ceiling fan is runnin, on my electric dc....
We are born to be thrifty, but these estragvances are nifty, come on now lets slave away....
Ok so maybe not that great, but a thought about how we spend and who we work for in some cases what.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/3/2009 11:05:26 PM
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Are these necessities? Well, let me see
Clothes Dryer - Well I certainly don't enjoy beating my clothes over a rock with a stick after I'm done washing them. Sorry, I don't live in a hut in the Congo, so I guess that would be a yes.
Air Conditioner - You wanna live in North Dakota during the summer with no a/c? No, you don't. Trust me. Ever heard that old saying "it isn't the heat; its the humidity?" Well, its true, and 95 degrees and humid in N.D. is nothing pretty. Turn the A/C on high.
T.V. - Not a necessity.... unless you have cable. Then I can get ESPN, and thus it becomes a necessity. Especially during football season, when I have to start monitoring my fantasty football players' statistics. OH, and don't forget "Alien Invasion" week on the Discovery Channel!!!
Microwave - You mean there are other ways to cook food.... and dry off your poodle when your rushed?
Dishwasher - It would be more of a necessity if my wife and I would remember to run the cotton-picking thing every now and then. However, it makes a good storage facitiy for dirty dishes when my mother-in-law comes over.
iPod - My wife's taste in music: Celine Dione, Phil Collins, Cher, JoDee Messina, Carrie Underwood, and Taylor Swift. My taste in music: Black Label Society, Drive-By Truckers, Cincerella, Saliva, Three Doors Down, Motley Crue, New Riders of the Purple Sage. Yeah, we need an iPod, because there's no way we're finding radio stations that play THAT mix of music.
High Speed Internet - If I didn't have high-speed internet, how would you guys ever hear from me? Your hearts would break, your tears would fall, and you'd be left without your daily dose of TorchHeartburn. So for the benefit of everyone here, I must make the sacrifice and say that this is a necessity.
Home Computer - Again, you'd all be left without your daily dose of TorchHeartburn. And I can't do that to all my little Torchaholics. Plus, what I'm I supposed to run my M.A.M.E. emulator program off of? My clock radio? Necessity.
Cell Phone - Just because nobody calls me on it doesn't mean that it's not a necessity.
Car - You're kidding, right? If you think I'm riding my bike to an auction sale 100 miles away, then you're crazy. Maybe I'll take a picture of myself riding my son's Big Wheel tricycle to work and you can tell me if my Chevy is a necessity or not.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 11:08:42 AM
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Everything is a necessity except the ipod. What's an ipod?
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