Search The Bible   
Featured Sponsors
Crosswalk Forums on Faith Community Network
  Forum Tools
Forums  | Register | Login

Photo Gallery |  Member List |  Search |  Calendars |  FAQ |  TOS |  Disclaimer |  Ticket List | 

RE: Are these Necessities?

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [Life] >> Finances >> RE: Are these Necessities?
Jump to post #:
Page: <<   < prev  3 4 [5] 6 7   next >   >>
[Poll]

Are these Necessities?


Clothes Dryer
  10% (40)
Air Conditioner
  13% (51)
T.V.
  6% (26)
Microwave
  8% (30)
Dishwasher
  4% (17)
iPod
  1% (5)
High Speed Internet
  7% (29)
Home Computer
  15% (56)
Cell Phone
  9% (36)
Car
  22% (83)


Total Votes : 373


(last vote on : 8/9/2009 11:08:05 PM)
(Poll will run till: -- )
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 11:18:57 AM   
3cappuccinosmom


Posts: 3447
Joined: 4/12/2005
Status: offline
I think this is so interesting.

Even with explanations, none of these are necessities for life.

They are necessities for chosen lifestyles.

_____________________________

Moo

The Ballad of Bad Biruk
Post #: 101
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 11:19:51 AM   
Howzat...


Posts: 4238
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: PA, USA
Status: online
quote:

ORIGINAL: 3cappuccinosmom

I think this is so interesting.

Even with explanations, none of these are necessities for life.

They are necessities for chosen lifestyles.

Oh, good distinction!

_____________________________

Pam


Proud of my hometown
Post #: 102
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 11:30:24 AM   
Consecrated2God


Posts: 4894
Joined: 4/4/2005
From: Formerly Jesus Land
Status: offline
quote:

Clothes Dryer - Well I certainly don't enjoy beating my clothes over a rock with a stick after I'm done washing them.


Actually, you don't beat your clothes with a stick to dry them, at least I don't think you do. That's part of the washing process. You hang them up to dry on a clothesline.

_____________________________

"A faith that can be destroyed by suffering is not faith."--Richard Wurmbrand
Post #: 103
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 11:47:06 AM   
TorchHeart


Posts: 2141
Joined: 6/4/2008
From: One of the coldest places on Earth
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God

quote:

Clothes Dryer - Well I certainly don't enjoy beating my clothes over a rock with a stick after I'm done washing them.


Actually, you don't beat your clothes with a stick to dry them, at least I don't think you do. That's part of the washing process. You hang them up to dry on a clothesline.


Yes, but I have aggression issues.

_____________________________

"Why so serious?"
Post #: 104
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 12:04:14 PM   
Consecrated2God


Posts: 4894
Joined: 4/4/2005
From: Formerly Jesus Land
Status: offline
Lol! Well, then, by all means, beat away! Better to beat your clothes than to beat your wife or children or something.

_____________________________

"A faith that can be destroyed by suffering is not faith."--Richard Wurmbrand
Post #: 105
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 12:06:35 PM   
Ps103


Posts: 12173
Joined: 4/16/2005
From: Here, now
Status: offline
And take up drumming

_____________________________

Fasten your seatbelts...it's going to be a bumpy night.
Post #: 106
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 12:37:52 PM   
poetessfree


Posts: 552
Joined: 12/1/2008
Status: offline
I chose cell phone, car & home computer.

Cell phone first because I need to be in contact with my teenaged son. With school shootings and the like, I want to know that he is okay or is taking evasive action, hopefully both.

Car, I could do without but why should I

home computer--will be conducting business online so it is sort of a necessity for me.

The rest, like air conditioning. I mean people, what did your ancestors do? Unless they were dying off by the thousands, I think that they managed. I just use a fan. If you have some illness, then air should be required but again, I don't think it is a necessity.

Washers/dryers--is not a necessity but a luxury.

Ipod--goes without saying

HSI-high speed internet is not a necessity unless your school has pathetically slow, for lack of better words, computers and you have online classes which I do and without Comcast I know a lot of my courses would've crashed like my other co-students did. So I am thankful for that, however it is still not a necessity.

< Message edited by poetessfree -- 5/4/2009 2:26:56 PM >


_____________________________

The Sum of us is greater than all of our parts
Maya Angelou
Post #: 107
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 8:15:05 PM   
PinkCarnations

 

Posts: 10738
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Coffee_Drinker

Everything is a necessity except the ipod. What's an ipod?


Somedays it's the thing that saves what is left of my sanity.

_____________________________

Tact is the knack of winning a point
without making an enemy.

Our Daily Bread, August 11, 2008


Roberta
Post #: 108
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/5/2009 11:54:43 PM   
delete123

 

Posts: 592
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings

That was so cool!





Thank you, thank you You'd be surprised with some of the stuff this mind can think up!
Post #: 109
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 10:48:42 AM   
isaacsmom


Posts: 1031
Joined: 12/2/2005
Status: offline
Clothes dryer -- For us, yes. Otherwise we couldn't dry our clothes in the rain and snow (we've had about 10 straight days of humidity and rain). Rural areas don't have laundromats

Air Conditioner -- Sometimes, yes. Many days are over 100* and the heat index much higher in the summer around here which makes it difficult/dangerous to do basic functions.

T.V. -- Not necessary. We have a television, but no T.V. service way out here in the boonies (we choose not to order satellite or cable).

Microwave -- Not necessary

Dishwasher -- Not necessary. We don't have one.

iPod -- Not necessary

High Speed Internet -- Not necessary. We have it, but we could live just fine without it. The public library has it if we need it.

Home Computer -- Same answer as above.

Cell Phone -- I know we lived without them for thousands of years, but I would consider this a necessity, at least for emergencies. No fancy plan with texting needed, just the ability to dial 911 when stranded.

Car -- For us, yes. We live in a very rural area. The only way to get to the next town in any direction for us is 20 miles of 2-lane highway. We could probably bike it if we had to, but not safely with two tiny kidlets. In the city, not a necessity. My brother lives in Chicago and doesn't have a car.

_____________________________

<<< My littles
*~*~*Rachel*~*~*
pirtlefarm.blogspot.com

Beware of posing as a profound person -- God became a baby. ~Oswald Chambers
Post #: 110
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 4:56:43 PM   
zoebob


Posts: 8009
Joined: 4/13/2005
From: land of limbo
Status: offline
If I didn't have a clothes dryer you wouldn't be able to walk through my house because it would take forever for my clothes to dry. My basement is not finished and the ceilings and walls are crumbly. It's also damp and cold. CLothes would take a long time to dry down there and there's not even a place to hand them all. I have some hangers on a water pipe for a few dressy items that can't go in the dryer. HOwever, I don't have the place to hang them all downstairs. The main floor of the house isn't very big either and I wouldn't have room for enough drying racks. I do hang clothes outside in the summer a lot but when weather is bad I would never get my clothes dry. I had a similar problem in my old house. The electric kept tripping every time I ran the dryer. FOr a couple months I was trying to hang my clothes. I had a little more room and better conditions to hang clothes then but it still was a pain. I had to wash diapers every day because it took them 3 days to dry hanging in the basement and then there wasn't room to hang other things. Hanging clothes on a drying rack also took 3 days to dry...and of course then there wasn't room to do anymore laundry for a few days.

_____________________________

L-R: DD1, Ellies DS2, DD2, Ellies DS1
L-R: Ellies DD1, Ellies DD2, DS, Ellies DS3
Post #: 111
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 5:18:53 PM   
3cappuccinosmom


Posts: 3447
Joined: 4/12/2005
Status: offline
I agree it's annoying to hang clothes inside. And inconvenient.

But still a lifestyle thing.

At the same time, I am glad that I am not having to hang my clothes to dry in the middle of rainy season in Ethiopia.

_____________________________

Moo

The Ballad of Bad Biruk
Post #: 112
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 5:36:50 PM   
OneOfHisJewels


Posts: 2586
Joined: 8/9/2007
From: out of the everywhere into here
Status: offline
quote:

The rest, like air conditioning. I mean people, what did your ancestors do?



Well, for one thing, mine lived in Northwestern Europe...a climate that is much more suited to fair skinned folks than hot (in the summmers anyway..winter can still be very cold and foggy) Central California where I live now. My ancestors also did not have air pollution coming from BOTH L.A. and San Francisco.


quote:


Even with explanations, none of these are necessities for life.

They are necessities for chosen lifestyles.


Actually, I would probably at least get very sick without A.C. in the summers in our area. And yes, that's probably partly from being born after several generations of being conditioned that way, but I am what I am. My body is VERY sensitive to sun and heat, among other things. In the summers I'm mostly either inside or swimming if I am outside.


And for me, living here isn't exactly a chosen lifestyle...it's where my PARENTS chose to live, and living on my own isn't feasible at this point, although it may be more possible in the near future than in the past.

< Message edited by OneOfHisJewels -- 5/6/2009 5:48:35 PM >


_____________________________

There is no greater magic than the magic of love...Zeddicus Zuel Zyrander
Post #: 113
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 5:52:18 PM   
Consecrated2God


Posts: 4894
Joined: 4/4/2005
From: Formerly Jesus Land
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: 3cappuccinosmom

I agree it's annoying to hang clothes inside. And inconvenient.

But still a lifestyle thing.

At the same time, I am glad that I am not having to hang my clothes to dry in the middle of rainy season in Ethiopia.


We didn't have a washer or dryer for the first five years of our marriage. I used to wash laundry at my MIL's house, and she didn't have a dryer, either. We hung our laundry outside when the weather was nice, and when it wasn't we hung it inside, on cabinet doors and drying racks, and on lines stretched down the hallway. During the winter we'd leave the baskets of wet laundry outside so they'd freeze and then bring them in and thaw them one at a time and hang them until that load was dry, and then get another. By spring we'd have quite a bit of laundry piled up we hadn't been able to get washed, and we'd do 20 or 30 loads when the weather warmed up enough to hang them outside.

_____________________________

"A faith that can be destroyed by suffering is not faith."--Richard Wurmbrand
Post #: 114
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 7:09:38 PM   
Dancre


Posts: 1280
Joined: 4/12/2005
Status: offline
I chose the W/D b/c when I was in my last apt, I didn't have one and had to go to the laundry mat. It took around $20 to do all my clothes. When the hard times hit, I had to wear dirty clothes b/c I didn't have the money to wash my clothes. I now understand why some poor folks have dirty clothes.

I also picked the air conditioner. When I lived in St. Louis, the heat would be so bad, folks would die from it.

I picked the phone b/c we all need a phone for safety.

The car b/c again, safety epecially if you're in a bad area. I'm not too keen on taking the bus, it goes into bad areas of the city. What seems like a luxury could be a God send to another.

kim
Post #: 115
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/7/2009 3:02:02 PM   
Coffee_Drinker


Posts: 233
Joined: 5/20/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: PinkCarnations

quote:

ORIGINAL: Coffee_Drinker

Everything is a necessity except the ipod. What's an ipod?


Somedays it's the thing that saves what is left of my sanity.



Well... add ipod to the list of necessities then.
Post #: 116
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/9/2009 9:32:48 AM   
judii1


Posts: 859
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: The Frozen Thumb of MI!
Status: offline
quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: Coffee_Drinker

Everything is a necessity except the ipod. What's an ipod?


quote:

Somedays it's the thing that saves what is left of my sanity.

It's the thing that my kid keeps asking me to buy for him. He is driving me insane...If a kid can decide to wrestle with a cheap mp3 player in his pocket and it gets smashed, does he need an ipod?
IPOD LINK

_____________________________

What does 1 boy + 1 set of new clothes + 1 brother with a paintball gun = ?
Post #: 117
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/9/2009 4:46:46 PM   
W.O.F.


Posts: 1617
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: an ignoble beginning
Status: offline
You don't have a none of the above.

I am happy if I have a stove that works, running water and a clothes washing machine.

I have dried clothes on a line strung up in my living room (cloth diapers to be exact) in the middle of a brutal Kansas winter (-50F windchill factor). I have washed clothes by hand (one summer we moved, and our bank put a hold on our funds when we opened the new account and I could not use the laundromat...so picture 8 month pregnant woman bending over tub scrubbing clothes for two kids, one hubby and herself).

I have lived without a car....depending on where you live, it is more of a necessity than others...but a good bicycle can work under most conditions.

All of that stuff on the list...is pretty much luxury. nice to have...but won't die without it.

Have lived without it.

The current economic situation did not make up my mind on this.....I felt this way before!

cell phones are luxuries...landlines are cheaper and more reliable. Yes...you can't take it with you..but did you know that cell phone that has "no service" still has 911 capabilities?

_____________________________

Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders and says, "Oh no, she's awake."
Post #: 118
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/11/2009 9:33:00 PM   
Pamsy


Posts: 738
Joined: 5/4/2005
Status: offline
Maybe some people really didnt live with out a cell phone, back then it could have saved there lives.
I just thought of that at the end of reading these posts. Had to throw that in.

_____________________________

1 Chorinthians 13 vs. 4-8. Love is patient, love is kind.......Love never fails."
Post #: 119
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/12/2009 1:39:34 AM   
OneOfHisJewels


Posts: 2586
Joined: 8/9/2007
From: out of the everywhere into here
Status: offline
quote:

All of that stuff on the list...is pretty much luxury. nice to have...but won't die without it.


Some elderly in our general area have died due to no A.C. in some of our intense heatwaves.

_____________________________

There is no greater magic than the magic of love...Zeddicus Zuel Zyrander
Post #: 120
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/12/2009 7:20:23 AM   
10SNE1?

 

Posts: 200
Joined: 4/19/2005
Status: offline
Clothes Dryer- I voted no, would be a challenge but could be done.

IPOD- I think this one is just silly, shouldn't even be on the list

AC- I voted no for me however, for my 75 year old mom with asthma and heart failure...it could very well be a lifesaver.

High Speed Internet-no

Dishwasher-no

Microwave- not even close.

car- yes, no public transportation

Computer- voted yes. Both our jobs assume at-home internet access.

TV- nope

Cell phone- voted yes. Here's my controversial one. Honestly, maybe you could do without one but the question is should you? If you have children, elderly parents who could need to reach you quickly? If you drive those children around in cars in the winter or at night? Basic cell phone plans just don't cost that much. I'd say, if a choice needs to be make, ditch the land lines at home and just get the cells.

When I was a kid...many moons ago ...there were a few hold-outs in our community who didn't have a home phone. They could always run to the neighbors or use a pay phone, was their reasoning. My mom used to say "When you get so concerned about money that you would rather save a buck than be prepared to act quickly in an emergency you know you care too much about the almighty dollar."

In today's age, I tend to feel the same way about cellphones.
Post #: 121
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/13/2009 1:44:24 PM   
W.O.F.


Posts: 1617
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: an ignoble beginning
Status: offline
except that you can get a disabled cellphone (one that no longer is an active account) and it can be used to call 911...the gps system for 911 still works in it and everything...so no...a cellphone that is being paid for monthly is NOT a necessity....

and depending on where you live, a cellphone can be a false sense of security anyway.

_____________________________

Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders and says, "Oh no, she's awake."
Post #: 122
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/14/2009 3:02:11 PM   
Belle_Texas


Posts: 219
Joined: 9/14/2005
From: Texas!! Where else???
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God

Technically, none of them are necessities, because all of them were invented pretty much within the last century and people lived without them for thousands of years. If we didn't have them, we'd find a way to survive. I've lived without all of them on that list except for the car.

But I do need some of the things on that list. I might not need them in the same way that I need oxygen, but I still need them. They have become so useful to me that living without them isn't an option I am willing to consider. The items I checked were a car, a computer, and a cell phone.


I agree with your post, but the ones that I checked were A/C and car and I chose those because of living in Texas..the heat and no mass transit where I live.

_____________________________

Don't get tired of doing what's right for in due
season you shall reap if you don't faint.
Post #: 123
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/14/2009 9:08:21 PM   
judii1


Posts: 859
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: The Frozen Thumb of MI!
Status: offline
quote:

except that you can get a disabled cellphone (one that no longer is an active account) and it can be used to call 911...the gps system for 911 still works in it and everything...so no...a cellphone that is being paid for monthly is NOT a necessity....


This ad has been on tv for the past month or so.
quote:

SafeLink Wireless is a government supported program
that provides a free cell phone and airtime each
month for income-eligible customers.
SafeLink

_____________________________

What does 1 boy + 1 set of new clothes + 1 brother with a paintball gun = ?
Post #: 124
RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/15/2009 8:01:21 AM   
10SNE1?

 

Posts: 200
Joined: 4/19/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: W.O.F.

except that you can get a disabled cellphone (one that no longer is an active account) and it can be used to call 911...the gps system for 911 still works in it and everything...so no...a cellphone that is being paid for monthly is NOT a necessity....

and depending on where you live, a cellphone can be a false sense of security anyway.


Well, to split hairs in an attempt to win a silly argument ......you still actually "have" a cellphone to use in an emergency now don't you?

The fact that I find an old clothes dryer with none of the bells and whistles of a modern model .....tells you nothing as far as how "necessary" a clothes dryer is to my life.

As Maggie pointed out, none of these things are actually "needed" in the same sense as food and water. So the easy answer is simply "None of the above" but I doubt that was the intent of the OP.

However, I think it is legit to make a distinction between items which merely make life easier and those which sustain life. In my mothers case;AC is a possible lifesaver at this stage of her illness. The stress which high heat or exposure to allergens cause her heart and lungs is truly life threatening.
Post #: 125
Page:   <<   < prev  3 4 [5] 6 7   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Life] >> Finances >> RE: Are these Necessities?
Jump to post #:
Page: <<   < prev  3 4 [5] 6 7   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Crosswalk Forums on Faith Community Network
  Forum Tools
Forums  | Register | Login

Photo Gallery |  Member List |  Search |  Calendars |  FAQ |  TOS |  Disclaimer |  Ticket List | 

Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.5 ANSI