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Are these Necessities?
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| Clothes Dryer |
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| Air Conditioner |
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| T.V. |
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| Microwave |
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| Dishwasher |
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| iPod |
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| High Speed Internet |
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| Home Computer |
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| Cell Phone |
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| Car |
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 11:19:51 AM
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ORIGINAL: 3cappuccinosmom I think this is so interesting. Even with explanations, none of these are necessities for life. They are necessities for chosen lifestyles. Oh, good distinction!
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 11:30:24 AM
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Clothes Dryer - Well I certainly don't enjoy beating my clothes over a rock with a stick after I'm done washing them. Actually, you don't beat your clothes with a stick to dry them, at least I don't think you do. That's part of the washing process. You hang them up to dry on a clothesline.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 11:47:06 AM
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ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God quote:
Clothes Dryer - Well I certainly don't enjoy beating my clothes over a rock with a stick after I'm done washing them. Actually, you don't beat your clothes with a stick to dry them, at least I don't think you do. That's part of the washing process. You hang them up to dry on a clothesline. Yes, but I have aggression issues.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 12:04:14 PM
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Consecrated2God
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Lol! Well, then, by all means, beat away! Better to beat your clothes than to beat your wife or children or something.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 12:37:52 PM
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I chose cell phone, car & home computer. Cell phone first because I need to be in contact with my teenaged son. With school shootings and the like, I want to know that he is okay or is taking evasive action, hopefully both. Car, I could do without but why should I home computer--will be conducting business online so it is sort of a necessity for me. The rest, like air conditioning. I mean people, what did your ancestors do? Unless they were dying off by the thousands, I think that they managed. I just use a fan. If you have some illness, then air should be required but again, I don't think it is a necessity. Washers/dryers--is not a necessity but a luxury. Ipod--goes without saying HSI-high speed internet is not a necessity unless your school has pathetically slow, for lack of better words, computers and you have online classes which I do and without Comcast I know a lot of my courses would've crashed like my other co-students did. So I am thankful for that, however it is still not a necessity.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/4/2009 8:15:05 PM
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ORIGINAL: Coffee_Drinker Everything is a necessity except the ipod. What's an ipod? Somedays it's the thing that saves what is left of my sanity.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 10:48:42 AM
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Clothes dryer -- For us, yes. Otherwise we couldn't dry our clothes in the rain and snow (we've had about 10 straight days of humidity and rain). Rural areas don't have laundromats Air Conditioner -- Sometimes, yes. Many days are over 100* and the heat index much higher in the summer around here which makes it difficult/dangerous to do basic functions. T.V. -- Not necessary. We have a television, but no T.V. service way out here in the boonies (we choose not to order satellite or cable). Microwave -- Not necessary Dishwasher -- Not necessary. We don't have one. iPod -- Not necessary High Speed Internet -- Not necessary. We have it, but we could live just fine without it. The public library has it if we need it. Home Computer -- Same answer as above. Cell Phone -- I know we lived without them for thousands of years, but I would consider this a necessity, at least for emergencies. No fancy plan with texting needed, just the ability to dial 911 when stranded. Car -- For us, yes. We live in a very rural area. The only way to get to the next town in any direction for us is 20 miles of 2-lane highway. We could probably bike it if we had to, but not safely with two tiny kidlets. In the city, not a necessity. My brother lives in Chicago and doesn't have a car.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 4:56:43 PM
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If I didn't have a clothes dryer you wouldn't be able to walk through my house because it would take forever for my clothes to dry. My basement is not finished and the ceilings and walls are crumbly. It's also damp and cold. CLothes would take a long time to dry down there and there's not even a place to hand them all. I have some hangers on a water pipe for a few dressy items that can't go in the dryer. HOwever, I don't have the place to hang them all downstairs. The main floor of the house isn't very big either and I wouldn't have room for enough drying racks. I do hang clothes outside in the summer a lot but when weather is bad I would never get my clothes dry. I had a similar problem in my old house. The electric kept tripping every time I ran the dryer. FOr a couple months I was trying to hang my clothes. I had a little more room and better conditions to hang clothes then but it still was a pain. I had to wash diapers every day because it took them 3 days to dry hanging in the basement and then there wasn't room to hang other things. Hanging clothes on a drying rack also took 3 days to dry...and of course then there wasn't room to do anymore laundry for a few days.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 5:36:50 PM
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The rest, like air conditioning. I mean people, what did your ancestors do? Well, for one thing, mine lived in Northwestern Europe...a climate that is much more suited to fair skinned folks than hot (in the summmers anyway..winter can still be very cold and foggy) Central California where I live now. My ancestors also did not have air pollution coming from BOTH L.A. and San Francisco. quote:
Even with explanations, none of these are necessities for life. They are necessities for chosen lifestyles. Actually, I would probably at least get very sick without A.C. in the summers in our area. And yes, that's probably partly from being born after several generations of being conditioned that way, but I am what I am. My body is VERY sensitive to sun and heat, among other things. In the summers I'm mostly either inside or swimming if I am outside. And for me, living here isn't exactly a chosen lifestyle...it's where my PARENTS chose to live, and living on my own isn't feasible at this point, although it may be more possible in the near future than in the past.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 5:52:18 PM
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Consecrated2God
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ORIGINAL: 3cappuccinosmom I agree it's annoying to hang clothes inside. And inconvenient. But still a lifestyle thing. At the same time, I am glad that I am not having to hang my clothes to dry in the middle of rainy season in Ethiopia. We didn't have a washer or dryer for the first five years of our marriage. I used to wash laundry at my MIL's house, and she didn't have a dryer, either. We hung our laundry outside when the weather was nice, and when it wasn't we hung it inside, on cabinet doors and drying racks, and on lines stretched down the hallway. During the winter we'd leave the baskets of wet laundry outside so they'd freeze and then bring them in and thaw them one at a time and hang them until that load was dry, and then get another. By spring we'd have quite a bit of laundry piled up we hadn't been able to get washed, and we'd do 20 or 30 loads when the weather warmed up enough to hang them outside.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/6/2009 7:09:38 PM
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I chose the W/D b/c when I was in my last apt, I didn't have one and had to go to the laundry mat. It took around $20 to do all my clothes. When the hard times hit, I had to wear dirty clothes b/c I didn't have the money to wash my clothes. I now understand why some poor folks have dirty clothes. I also picked the air conditioner. When I lived in St. Louis, the heat would be so bad, folks would die from it. I picked the phone b/c we all need a phone for safety. The car b/c again, safety epecially if you're in a bad area. I'm not too keen on taking the bus, it goes into bad areas of the city. What seems like a luxury could be a God send to another. kim
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/9/2009 9:32:48 AM
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quote: ORIGINAL: Coffee_Drinker Everything is a necessity except the ipod. What's an ipod? quote:
Somedays it's the thing that saves what is left of my sanity. It's the thing that my kid keeps asking me to buy for him. He is driving me insane...If a kid can decide to wrestle with a cheap mp3 player in his pocket and it gets smashed, does he need an ipod? IPOD LINK
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/9/2009 4:46:46 PM
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You don't have a none of the above. I am happy if I have a stove that works, running water and a clothes washing machine. I have dried clothes on a line strung up in my living room (cloth diapers to be exact) in the middle of a brutal Kansas winter (-50F windchill factor). I have washed clothes by hand (one summer we moved, and our bank put a hold on our funds when we opened the new account and I could not use the laundromat...so picture 8 month pregnant woman bending over tub scrubbing clothes for two kids, one hubby and herself). I have lived without a car....depending on where you live, it is more of a necessity than others...but a good bicycle can work under most conditions. All of that stuff on the list...is pretty much luxury. nice to have...but won't die without it. Have lived without it. The current economic situation did not make up my mind on this.....I felt this way before! cell phones are luxuries...landlines are cheaper and more reliable. Yes...you can't take it with you..but did you know that cell phone that has "no service" still has 911 capabilities?
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/11/2009 9:33:00 PM
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Maybe some people really didnt live with out a cell phone, back then it could have saved there lives. I just thought of that at the end of reading these posts. Had to throw that in.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/12/2009 1:39:34 AM
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All of that stuff on the list...is pretty much luxury. nice to have...but won't die without it. Some elderly in our general area have died due to no A.C. in some of our intense heatwaves.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/12/2009 7:20:23 AM
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Clothes Dryer- I voted no, would be a challenge but could be done. IPOD- I think this one is just silly, shouldn't even be on the list AC- I voted no for me however, for my 75 year old mom with asthma and heart failure...it could very well be a lifesaver. High Speed Internet-no Dishwasher-no Microwave- not even close. car- yes, no public transportation Computer- voted yes. Both our jobs assume at-home internet access. TV- nope Cell phone- voted yes. Here's my controversial one. Honestly, maybe you could do without one but the question is should you? If you have children, elderly parents who could need to reach you quickly? If you drive those children around in cars in the winter or at night? Basic cell phone plans just don't cost that much. I'd say, if a choice needs to be make, ditch the land lines at home and just get the cells. When I was a kid...many moons ago ...there were a few hold-outs in our community who didn't have a home phone. They could always run to the neighbors or use a pay phone, was their reasoning. My mom used to say "When you get so concerned about money that you would rather save a buck than be prepared to act quickly in an emergency you know you care too much about the almighty dollar." In today's age, I tend to feel the same way about cellphones.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/13/2009 1:44:24 PM
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except that you can get a disabled cellphone (one that no longer is an active account) and it can be used to call 911...the gps system for 911 still works in it and everything...so no...a cellphone that is being paid for monthly is NOT a necessity.... and depending on where you live, a cellphone can be a false sense of security anyway.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/14/2009 3:02:11 PM
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ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God Technically, none of them are necessities, because all of them were invented pretty much within the last century and people lived without them for thousands of years. If we didn't have them, we'd find a way to survive. I've lived without all of them on that list except for the car. But I do need some of the things on that list. I might not need them in the same way that I need oxygen, but I still need them. They have become so useful to me that living without them isn't an option I am willing to consider. The items I checked were a car, a computer, and a cell phone. I agree with your post, but the ones that I checked were A/C and car and I chose those because of living in Texas..the heat and no mass transit where I live.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/14/2009 9:08:21 PM
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judii1
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except that you can get a disabled cellphone (one that no longer is an active account) and it can be used to call 911...the gps system for 911 still works in it and everything...so no...a cellphone that is being paid for monthly is NOT a necessity.... This ad has been on tv for the past month or so. quote:
SafeLink Wireless is a government supported program that provides a free cell phone and airtime each month for income-eligible customers. SafeLink
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