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Are these Necessities?
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| Clothes Dryer |
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| Air Conditioner |
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| T.V. |
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| Microwave |
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| Dishwasher |
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| iPod |
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| High Speed Internet |
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| Home Computer |
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| Cell Phone |
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| Car |
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Are these Necessities? - 5/16/2009 10:07:49 PM
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PinkCarnations
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I get along without the ability to drive a car. It ain't easy, but it can be done.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/17/2009 5:16:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: W.O.F.
except that you can get a disabled cellphone (one that no longer is an active account) and it can be used to call 911...the gps system for 911 still works in it and everything...so no...a cellphone that is being paid for monthly is NOT a necessity....
and depending on where you live, a cellphone can be a false sense of security anyway.
What did you mean by a cell phone being a false sense of security? If you live in an area that there is hardly any service, you would know that so wouldn't have a false sense of security.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/18/2009 7:55:38 PM
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Clothes Dryer
Air Conditioner
T.V.
Microwave
Dishwasher
iPod
High Speed Internet
Home Computer
Cell Phone
Car [/quote]
With the exception of a car, I didn't have any of the above until my first husband and I rented a TV in the very late 1960s. We rented it so that we could continue to claim not to own a TV, because the church organization we were in then didn't believe in watching them at that time.
The rest of the items came into my life in time, but -- oh, well! The thing is that we could all live without all of them if necessary -- it had been done for thousands of years before!
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/19/2009 3:42:14 PM
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We rented it so that we could continue to claim not to own a TV, because the church organization we were in then didn't believe in watching them at that time.
Now that's the kind of solution I would come up with! To truthfully answer, "No." to "Do you own a TV." while renting one (and watching it too)! Brilliant. Who said there is no room in the Chrisitian life with that naturally devious bent. It takes a lot more creative deviousness to get away with stuff without technically lying.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/19/2009 4:03:59 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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quote:
ORIGINAL: pbaribeault
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We rented it so that we could continue to claim not to own a TV, because the church organization we were in then didn't believe in watching them at that time.
Now that's the kind of solution I would come up with! To truthfully answer, "No." to "Do you own a TV." while renting one (and watching it too)! Brilliant. Who said there is no room in the Chrisitian life with that naturally devious bent. It takes a lot more creative deviousness to get away with stuff without technically lying.
You're great!
Creative lying! There you go!
What was funny was the fact that my first husband was so fastidiously honest in everything, yet he came up with this! :-D
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/19/2009 6:05:27 PM
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none are necessary, but a car is important to me because I have a bad knee and bus is not near. Dh is able to walk to the supermarket. When we were first married, we were so poor I did the laundry in the bathtub and hung it up. We were in NYC so there were buses.
Families with kids and in extreme climates (I include LA) need a lot more. Seattle is generally not that cold or hot. dh does the dishes. We have a clothes dryer and microwave, but could do without. Dh might die without high speed internet and he uses it for a lot of volunteer work - but he could go to the coffeehouse for free wifi. Cell phones are a nuisance because they keep ringing. We got rid of it. Hate tv.
Again, if we still had little kids it would be different.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/25/2009 9:12:41 PM
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I haven't read thru all the posts, but I have to say that really none of those are neccesseties. Nice to have, but not neccessary. Actually, about 36 yrs ago (I know, this dates me!) when I was a young High School grad, I moved into my own apt in the big city, and I had none of those things. Well maybe technically I had a dryer, b/c the building had a coin operated washer and dryer. Oh, and several of those things had not yet been invented; let's see, there was no internet, no cell phones (but pay phones were on every street corner) computers had been invented, but not personal computers, most people I knew didn't have a dishwasher, microwaves may have been invented but weren't in general use. I got along fine without a car (public transportation was widely available here, and is still so) and I didn't suffer without TV. I didn't feel at all like I was going without, it was the way you expected to live when you were a young working girl just out on your own. These days, altho I still consider them all luxories, I find that as long as I can afford them, I will choose to have them, but will not fall into despair if I am forced to go without them.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/25/2009 9:16:30 PM
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I have to say, that of all the things, the one thing that would be the biggest hassle to do without would be the dryer. AC is not at all as important here, we only get above 90 a few days or maybe 1 or 2 weeks a yr total. We never had it growing up ,except in really big buildings. Most small store didn't have it, neither did most homes.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/26/2009 12:43:34 AM
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Funny story about dishwashers:
When I was a kid, there was only one family that I recall as having a DW, and they only used it when they washed their good dishes. One yr, the mom was getting ready for Easter dinner, and she couldn't find her good china. She finally located it in the DW. It had been in there since Christmas, and she had forgotten to take it out!
As far as things I have never had to do without, that would include things like electricity, indoor plumbing, central heat; things that if you didn't have them in your house you would be in violation of city code. I'm sure I could learn to live without them, but I would be breaking the law. Actually, in my much younger days, I did quite a bit of primitive camping/backpacking/.canoeing, where I had to go without all of them, and loved it! But there's just no way to actually live that way on a permanent basis in our modern Western world, and the winter would be quite difficult in this climate.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/26/2009 2:49:30 PM
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I totally agree that nothing on the list is a neccessity, as stated inmy first post (157). the comment about it being difficult in the winter was refering to the what I had just saud about being an avid primitive camper, as in: you backpack or canoe from one campsite to the next; you dig a hole in the ground for a toilet, you find wood to build a fire, you sleep on the ground in a tiny tent; you may have to fish for dinner, you carry everthing on your baack for miles till you get to the next campsite, them you make camp from scratch, so to speak, that kind of thing. Back in my younger days, when I was more into that kind of thing, I loved it for the 2 wks in the summer when I would do it, and altho I know people who are into winter primitive camping, I would think it would be a bit dangerous, due to the liklihood of frostbite, etc. The Amish live in houses, and altho they heat with wood, they can keep warm better than someone who is out in a tent in the wilderness in the winter.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/26/2009 3:16:11 PM
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Clothes Dryer-We have a Laundry Room/Garage so no.
Air Conditioner-Yes
T.V.-I would miss a lot but no
Microwave-Not really
Dishwasher-See Above
iPod-See Above
High Speed Internet-Yes
Home Computer-Yep
Cell Phone-I don't use mine a lot it is nice to have since I take the bus everywhere and if a bus is late I can either call for a ride or that I will be late.
Car-We have a really great Bus System here on Oahu so a car is not needed. However when I learn how to drive I would love a car.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 5/28/2009 3:26:37 AM
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Green is DEFINITE
Orange is depending on circumstances
Red is NOT A Neccesity
(Clothes Dryer) 10% (29 Votes)Definite must I fully believe God wants us to be clean.
(Air Conditioner) 15% (45 Votes)Depends on health conditions in my position. If it is needed medically then most certainly but If you cant pay rent and you dont have health problems and just dont enjoy the heat, I think you should deal with it and get your priorities straight. Especially if children are involved. Plus an air conditioner is kind of a waste of time without electricity (a necessity) and without a home then it is just a box to sit on the sidewalk with.
(Television) 7% (23 Votes)I believe television is a priority. Not necassarily for shows but for the news because we are told to watch for the signs and they are all over the world.
(Microwave) 7% (22 Votes)Not needed in my opinion, definitely not healthy and if you have a microwave you probably have a stove. usually takes longer but I'm pretty sure God says to work for your food. In my opinion the cooking counts as the working.
(Dishwasher) 4% (14 Votes)Not needed unless you have a disability that impairs your ability to do dishes or just TRULY dont have the time to do them. Only other reason I can think of is so that you can spend more time with loved ones, but that pretty much ties into not having time.
(iPOD) 1% (5 Votes)For me Definitely needed. It gives the ability to listen to worship music anywhere any time so it is easier to worship my Lord anywhere. Worship is definitely helpful when it comes to the point of depression and uplifting.
(High Speed Internet) 6% (20 Votes)Depends on situation once again. If it is for your business or in order to keep in contact with loved ones, or to come to places like crosswalk and other wonderful sites then it is a necessity.
(Home Computer) 14% (42 Votes)Once again if it has purpose other than dilly-dallying online just like internet access.
(Cell Phone) 9% (27 Votes)Definite need in case of emergency with youself or others God places in your path. Also needed for many people for their work. Also an extra easy way to stay in contact with loved ones if you need (on the spot) counseling from your pastor on a situation you know you need wisdom or knowledge that someone you know in the body of christ just might have for you.
(Car) 22% (67 Votes)Most of the time a definite need. Work, Church, Shopping, Errands, and many other things that you might not be able to do without a vehicle. Also it makes it much easier to offer rides to church to your non-church-going-type. And of course the ones that already go but just cant get there.
I truthfully hope nobody was offended by any of my comments, and if anybody was I apologize full heartedly. But if anybody was please reply to this post because I would like to know what offended you.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 6/4/2009 9:32:07 PM
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Well, I am now living proof that air conditioning is necessity for me, at least in Central CA summers. I felt sick and horrid all day, and neither my mom or me could figure out why. Then she realized she hadn't turned the ac on. She turned it on a while ago, and I'm starting to feel a little better.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 6/6/2009 9:34:45 PM
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Maybe you need to drink more water too?
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 6/7/2009 2:15:02 AM
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No, it gets hot here, except for the last couple o days, it's like Hawaii. Many here have to filter the dirty air we have. Once you have had Valley Fever you never want it again.
We drink lots of water here in Bako. Last year we won the honor of being the 44oz soda capital of California, too.
I'd like to do without telephones altogether. This 24 hr call out stuff gets old, but the money is good. Choices, choices, choices.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 6/8/2009 1:41:59 AM
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YUP (I'm not in Bakersfield, but not too far from it.....3? hrs. away).
And I already do drink a lot of water. I go to the gym most days, and chug along.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 6/8/2009 10:02:10 AM
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I like this question. It's making me think about my priorities and where I spend my money.
I said the A/C, Clothers Dryer, Home COmputer and Car.
The A/C - Sorry, I'm a wimp. If I can not be hot all the time, I'll take it. Also, in the summer, if the house is cool, why leave? If you go out somewhere to cool off, you will probably spend money wherever you end up going.
Clothes Dryer - Family of 5. Yes. No quesion (for me anyway).
Home Computer - Maybe you could say it's not, but the fact that you can do online banking, and play games (I play Hoyle Card Games from Real Arcade). It's free (we may have paid for it once, but I'm not sure) it's cheap entertainment, and you can get news, sports, etc from it.
Car - I live 22 miles from work, and even the bus is 4 miles away, so yes.
I don't think that high speed internet is a necessity, but I pay for it. Comcast finally wised up and offered a "lower tier" high speed internet for $24.95. I got a modem for under $20.00 brand new at Office Depot. The old Comcast service was about $60 (not sure on that, though).
The cell phone - I definitely use mine, and we share minutes, and have only gone over that once. I would pay for that, but it is not a necessity./
Sometimes I think if it were just me I would take the TV out, but with 4 other people, it's not happening.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 6/8/2009 11:12:55 AM
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ORIGINAL: 10SNE1? In my mothers case;AC is a possible lifesaver at this stage of her illness. The stress which high heat or exposure to allergens cause her heart and lungs is truly life threatening.
great point ... the 2003 heatwave killed 15,000 people (mostly elderly) in france where air conditioning is very rare.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 6/8/2009 8:45:01 PM
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I voted only for car, if you wanna get technical. However, I have most of these things:
Clothes Dryer--- not really ... however, you will spend more in the long run at laundromats if you don't have one, unless you are able to dry your clothes on the line. For apartment dwellers and allergy sufferers, that option is out.
Air Conditioner-- Not necessary, but personally, I cannot live without one in May and June. I'm fine with opening the windows any other time of the year. During these months, I sneeze violently.
T.V. -- Not exactly necessary, but you may find you spend more in entertainment dollars if you can't even get a movie at the library or Redbox and use them.
Microwave-- Not for everybody, but I do a lot of cooking in mine. When my microwave gave up the ghost, I found one on Craig's Lisf for $20.
Dishwasher-- Not necessary, but I have one, and so I use it.
iPod --Don't have one, don't need it.
High Speed Internet --Again, not for everybody, but I use mine for my home-based business
Home Computer--Likewise
Cell Phone--I thought this was a luxury until the one the company supplied, which I used sparingly, gave up the ghost. After a month of feeling incredibly unsafe in my 12-year-old car, I went to a Verizon store and got roped into a contract. I HAVE used it for emergencies and for work and business purposes, but mostly it's nice for people to be able to find me when I am not home.
Car--I live in one county and work in another and use my car daily for work and business purposes. Ditto for my church. Oh, and the few times I've been without a car due to repairs that sidelined it or major issues that forced me to replace it, my only option to get groceries was to walk to the Family Dollar store. Not a cheap place to get bread, milk and eggs, let me tell you.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 6/16/2009 9:50:06 AM
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I think because of the way the culture has changed in the past few years some things are now essential that should not be and historically have not been (like internet). I don't think someone could make it very long without having at least access to a computer with internet. Ok I am sure someone could but it would be difficult for sure!
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 7/2/2009 6:26:03 AM
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I chose the car. I could live without everything else and a lot of people in the more poor countries do. I could find my way around having a clothes dryer in the winter or having a cell phone. But if you live in a place where public transportation isn't available and it's too far to walk, well there really isn't a way of getting around that unless you constantly car pool. And in that scenario a car is needed by someone.
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RE: Are these Necessities? - 7/2/2009 7:20:53 AM
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Are these Necessities?
No. If they were I would not be alive today.
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Clearly, not a pleasant way to dry the laundry, nor convenient. Wouldn't want to have to do that myself. But it's not a neccessity to live.
