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RE: Listening to "secular" music? - 7/1/2009 10:27:25 PM
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WillingSpirit
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They don't mention jazz that much because it's sord of not the music of our times
I'm quite aware of the history of "modern music" Willingspirit, and yes, my point is that the modern day criers of secular music are focusing on modern day music, why? Because that makes sense. which is exactly why I have suggested that the subject matter of this particular thread "Listening to 'secular' music" is way waaay to broad, and should be paired down to "Listening to 'secular' music with distasteful lyrical content" Because... really, isn't that and the "symbolism" of modern secular music what the whole outpouring of sentiment is really about?
The individuals bringing up these threads don't consider, IMHO, instrumental music or the likes of jazz and the like, I get the sense that they mean modern pop music with distasteful lyrics. Now as it were, to really get involved with an artist such as Thelonious Monk or Miles Davis and to understand the "instrumental" music, we need to be educated on the life of such artist and know where they come from. There has to be a renaissance in the Christian community towards actual music as art and what exactly it means. Maybe a "secular" song has distasteful lyrical content, however maybe that artist at the time the song was written was in a dark place in life at the time. Notwithstanding the likes of modern day pop hits from those like Fergie, (Black Eyed Peas), Gwen Stafani.. et al (name the pop artist) who are making "music" merely as ear candy and to sell records and keep their lives in the spotlight.
I wasn't trying to come across as an annoying know it all (if that's the way I came across).I was simply trying to drive a point home and I think I accomplished the task.
If we narrow things down, perhaps we should avoid the term "secular" all together (since that is a broad term) and only talk about music with distasteful content? And why do people only apply the term "secular" to music and not other media or arts like movies? There's tons of secular movies with distasteful content, but I don't know to many people who only watch Christian movies.The people who only listen to Christian music, almost always watch secular movies or watch secular tv.
Again, I'm trying to drive a point home, not trying to drive people nuts (something that comes natural to me).
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RE: Listening to "secular" music? - 7/2/2009 12:45:20 AM
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I have decided that any post that I make in this thread will be in jest, humor, and fun.
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RE: Listening to "secular" music? - 7/2/2009 4:00:52 PM
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Tina258
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To be okay with Christian rock yet think of Christian hiphop as an oxymoron, how is that a consistent position?
Just to clarify I have no problem with Christian rappers. Hip Hop and rap is not the same thing which most people don't realize. Hip hop is who they are (its kind of like a culture) and Rapping is just something they do.
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RE: Listening to "secular" music? - 7/2/2009 6:56:01 PM
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To be okay with Christian rock yet think of Christian hiphop as an oxymoron, how is that a consistent position?
Just to clarify I have no problem with Christian rappers. Hip Hop and rap is not the same thing which most people don't realize. Hip hop is who they are (its kind of like a culture) and Rapping is just something they do.
Tina:
Thoughts on so-called "Christian Punk?" is punk a lifestyle or style of music???? Jus' sayin!
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RE: Listening to "secular" music? - 7/3/2009 4:07:41 PM
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WillingSpirit
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To be okay with Christian rock yet think of Christian hiphop as an oxymoron, how is that a consistent position?
Just to clarify I have no problem with Christian rappers. Hip Hop and rap is not the same thing which most people don't realize. Hip hop is who they are (its kind of like a culture) and Rapping is just something they do.
Okay, that does clarify things.Not that I quite agree, but I think I've given my 2 cents on this subject.I really want to move on to more fun topics.
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RE: Listening to "secular" music? - 7/13/2009 4:05:38 PM
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I use to only listen to metal, all forms of it (slayer, deicide, nile) mostly death metal, music that glorified death & hell.
Since I was saved back in 2006; I now only listen to Southern Gospel & hymns. I am not saying that all secular music is bad (of course not) but I do know that for me, ALL of my secular music is bad.
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