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Messianic lady who feels more connected at church - 5/2/2009 12:42:51 PM
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splost
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Hi guys
this may sounds very odd, but are there any Messianics out there who just dont feel connected with the Messianic congregations around them?
I have tried several different Messianic congregations in my area, and feel led to do the feasts, Sabbath, etc. The problem is, I feel most connected at a church in my area that does virtually nothing Messianic. Which means around Christmas, I am politely not participating in some of the activities, and around the feasts I am fellowshipping elsewhere due to the lack of interest. This has caused years of frustration and loneliness as I vasilate back and forth between keeping the feasts and wanting to feel connected. BecauseI feel led to keep the Sabbath, Saturday now becomes a "have to go somewhere" mentality as opposed to "get to go somewhere" attitude. Although I don't feel connected, I go to this one Messianic congregation (the people are very nice BTW) but it is more out of a "must go because it's Sabbath" mentality.
There are a couple of churches (yes churches) that I am more fond of. Not that they are "better", but I just naturally gravitate towards. But because they are not Messianic, I don't feel like I can make them my home.
Can a Messianic believer have a home church that is void of Messianic traditions and just go find fellowship around the feasts? Are there any lone ranger Messanics out there that are in "christian" (meaning Messianic free) churches?
I guess I ask this because I want to have some freedom to go where my heart desires, yet pleasing God is not always about what I want.
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RE: Messianic lady who feels more connected at church - 5/2/2009 3:55:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: splost
Hi guys
this may sounds very odd, but are there any Messianics out there who just don't feel connected with the Messianic congregations around them?
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I guess I ask this because I want to have some freedom to go where my heart desires, yet pleasing God is not always about what I want.
Oh splost! I pray the very best G-d has for you. I love the congregation where I attend - however, it's BIG and sometimes easy to get lost in the crowd. That being said, I can't completely empathize, but understand somewhat about connection. I don't know that it's so much of where you attend as it is the pleasing G-d part. Have you stopped to think that it's the L-rd who may be moving you out?
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Can a Messianic believer have a home church that is void of Messianic traditions and just go find fellowship around the feasts? Are there any lone ranger Messanics out there that are in "christian" (meaning Messianic free) churches?
I think so. What doyado if you live miles and miles and miles away from a synagogue but are surrounded by fields of churches? You still want to associate with believers - don't forsake that, but I don't necessarily think (and I might get shot down for this) it would be a bad thing if you're connecting more with a church. I would just have to trust that if you are faithful to seek Adonai, He is the one who's bringing that connection - He guides and lights our path and will keep us in His way if we ask Him, not letting us look to the left or right. Trust Him who is forever faithful and be obedient to His leading - wherever that might be! Who knows? He may lead you into a place where you can tell others about the rich significance of the feasts to those who might not have otherwise had opportunity??? I dunno... He might bring you in elsewhere for a season or seasons to learn a different perspective for something that you will encounter one day...just an idea?
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RE: Messianic lady who feels more connected at church - 5/2/2009 10:22:55 PM
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splost, Shalom.
Is there the slightest chance that Moshiach has led you to these Churches because He wants you to introduce a program of sharing His Feasts with the Christian believers? I have been providing a video program on God's Feasts for about a year. Under most considerations, it has been a complete flop, due to the paucity of participants. B U T, those who have come, has learned much, and are very grateful, as what they have learned has opened up many new door's of understanding for them.
My program is almost a 'blind leading the blind,' but by using Messianic teachers, on video, all I have to do is learn, right along with my brothers and sisters in Messiah.
Give this suggestion, a good solid 'Ponder,' and if you feel the calling to do, then ask the Minister for permission to start a program. My Baptist Minister is very grateful, and praises God for making the teachings available.
In your last sentence, you say: "I guess I ask this because I want to have some freedom to go where my heart desires, yet pleasing God is not always about what I want."
I agree,,,, Following your heart to do what the Spirit places on it is the true way to follow Messiah, without any thought of earthly wants, that might tarnish, or diminish your association for Yaushuah. Good for you.   
In Messiah, His Shalom, and total descipleship. Arley
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RE: Messianic lady who feels more connected at church - 5/2/2009 10:38:39 PM
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The biblical model is more about community than it is about what has come to be known as "church". If you are meeting with people on Shabbat who do not act like a community, they are probably not much better than a "church" that is not observant. On the other hand, are the people in the "church" you attend open to discussing the Scriptures even if it leads to disagreement? The point is we need to be in communities where we can discuss Adonai's word. Maybe, you are being called to bring community to a group which follows Adonai's ways in other respect, while at the same time called to bring Adonai's ways to a group which is a community. Maybe if you spoke to those in one group of the the things that you find valuable in the other group, you might be able improve both.
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RE: Messianic lady who feels more connected at church - 5/4/2009 9:54:35 AM
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We've done both and found lack of community as bluethread says.
We've done the "church" extreme and was pushed in the
"messianic" extreme. My associate and I spent two years
digging through and dissecting each scripture verse by verse
to see if what anyone is saying is true or not.
And as always, We find what God tells us in Psalms and Romans 3:4.
"All men are liars."
Only God is true and the Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth.
The foundation is Jesus Christ, and Him crucified as Paul teaches us.
I would probably not feel comfortable in a typical sunday church again,
but I fellowship with true brothers and sisters either in our church, or
the churches we visit, or those we run across in the daily life.
Where the Spirit is, there is liberty.
So, we follow the Spirit and not the Letter.
The Spirit will not contradict the Letter and
will guide us "by" the Letter, but the Letter
doesn't necessarily lead us anywhere.
God's will is paramount, no matter what circumstance we face.
Church is where we are instructed and honor our Creator.
I think you are doing the only thing you can at this time.
God will guide you in your quest. Sabbath can be kept at home.
And we can still worship with others on Sunday. We have church
on the Sabbath and from time to time, we visit other churches.
And small opportunities arise where we can share what the Scriptures
really say. We aren't pushing messianicism, but helping others have
the Word opened up with understanding.
Praise His Name.
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RE: Messianic lady who feels more connected at church - 5/4/2009 4:19:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: Bluethread
The biblical model is more about community than it is about what has come to be known as "church". If you are meeting with people on Shabbat who do not act like a community, they are probably not much better than a "church" that is not observant. On the other hand, are the people in the "church" you attend open to discussing the Scriptures even if it leads to disagreement? The point is we need to be in communities where we can discuss Adonai's word. Maybe, you are being called to bring community to a group which follows Adonai's ways in other respect, while at the same time called to bring Adonai's ways to a group which is a community. Maybe if you spoke to those in one group of the the things that you find valuable in the other group, you might be able improve both.
Messianic Lady, you are not alone as evidenced by what is said here and experienced by many. Sometimes the journey boils down to choosing whom you are going to serve today, and leave the rest to G-d.. I know that's frustrating because we are humans and humans like action. Also we live in a culture that measures things in tangibles. I say that with 9 fingers pointed at me, and one at you.. You have the prayers of this writer and all here.. (Drussell52)
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RE: Messianic lady who feels more connected at church - 5/5/2009 3:47:57 PM
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I don't think it is possible to attend a place where there is not some tradition. The trick is finding a place where the truth is being preached and deciding what traditions you can live with.
If that place happens to be where you are now, then there is no reason for you to leave.
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RE: Messianic lady who feels more connected at church - 5/14/2009 7:59:14 AM
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I agree... I feel a strong longing for my brethern in the traditional church. I pray everyone on this parrticular thread will be a instrument in Yah's hand to bring reconciliation and community to the fragmented body. I pray that with the knowledge of Hebraic insight will come a humility and love to flood our hearts and that the veil over our understanding be removed.
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