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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 6/25/2009 12:38:28 PM
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nealmorsefan
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I try not to watch R rated movies very often and certainly never with my kids. Some R-rated movies should be mandatory for all adults to watch...like Shindler's List and Saving Private Ryan. It would be nice if movies that expose the horrors of humanity like these could be done in a PG setting, but that would water-down the horrificness of the actions which we need to be aware of as human beings. Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it and all that...
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 6/25/2009 10:34:05 PM
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Dude, if this is what you go to see movies for, then I think you shouldn't go see anymore movies. In fact, just to be safe, I wouldn't watch anymore TV, either.
The point that I am trying to make is that movies have a profound impact on your thinking weather you like it or not. You can not escape it. Because of this, you have to be real careful what movies you see. Give that even non-Christians think R rate movies are problematic, Christians should be extremely cautious.
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And this has what to do with "R" rated movies?
That should be intuitively obvious. As I stated earlier, even non-Christians think R rated movies have a large corrupting potential in them. If you are corrupting your mind, it won't stay pure. If it does not stay pure, you will not experience the the supernatural side of Christianity. Think about it. Why do you go see movies anyway? To escape from normal life, for the fun of it, for the thrill and for the enjoyment. However, if these movies short circuit a pure heart, you will miss out on that and more, much much more in your Christian life. This is what is talked about in John 4:13:
"Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life."
Would you characterize your Christian life as a dripping faucet or a fire hose?
To get an even better idea of what I am talking about, how about you read the book, “Blessed Child” by Ted Dekker.
http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=945135&item_code=WW&netp_id=427945&event=ESRCN&view=covers
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 6/25/2009 11:05:09 PM
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That is an awesome book. It really does make you think about things like that.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 6/28/2009 4:19:23 AM
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The point that I am trying to make is that movies have a profound impact on your thinking weather you like it or not. You can not escape it.
And you know this how? Do you really think that many of us have such weak minds? And what about those of us whose minds are so screwed up that such movies are tame by comparison?
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Because of this, you have to be real careful what movies you see. Give that even non-Christians think R rate movies are problematic, Christians should be extremely cautious.
What is the percentage of non-Christians who do not approve of R rated movies? And how many of them are not members of the AARP?
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If you are corrupting your mind, it won't stay pure. If it does not stay pure, you will not experience the the supernatural side of Christianity.
First off, who are these people that have "pure" minds? I was under the impression that there was "none righteous, no, not even one". To be pure is a goal. Much like it is a goal to be sinless. But if we could do that, there would have been no need for Jesus to die on a cross. Not that I am saying we should do as we please, and abuse Grace, but I am only pointing out the fallacy of saying that we can be "pure". I won't even touch the rest of that quote.
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Why do you go see movies anyway? To escape from normal life, for the fun of it, for the thrill and for the enjoyment.
Exactly. Maybe you go to be indoctrinated, but I and everyone I know do not. Now, when I was in the hospital I met some people who could not tell fantasy from reality, but I was not one of them. It was one of the reasons they let me out. 
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However, if these movies short circuit a pure heart, you will miss out on that and more, much much more in your Christian life.
Once again, apart from Jesus Christ, who are these people you can tell me about who have "pure" hearts?
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To get an even better idea of what I am talking about, how about you read the book, “Blessed Child” by Ted Dekker.
Being a Ted Dekker fan, I will indeed check out this book. Given that I can find it at my public library. Maybe I will understand where you are coming from better if I do.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 6/28/2009 4:28:57 AM
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OK. I have requested the book "Blessed Child" from my local library. I should get it within the next few days. It may take me a month to read it (I already have six other books checked out ahead of it), but I will get to it as soon as I can.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 6/30/2009 5:56:51 PM
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And you know this how? Do you really think that many of us have such weak minds? And what about those of us whose minds are so screwed up that such movies are tame by comparison?
How? From what I have been studying about neural networks. Why do you go see movies in the first place? Because you want them to influence you. And that they do.
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And what about those of us whose minds are so screwed up that such movies are tame by comparison?
If that's the case, I would stop seeing movies or watching television and just read the Bible for 6 months straight.
Eph 5:26 says,
cleanse ... with the washing of water by the word,
Reading the Bible has a supernatural cleansing effect.
While it's true that initially that no ones is righteous. However, when you become a Christian, you are born-again.
2 Cor 5:17 says:
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
This is echoed in John 13:10
Jesus said to him, "He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you."
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Once again, apart from Jesus Christ, who are these people you can tell me about who have "pure" hearts?
I can't tell you. Only you can tell you about yourself. However, I can tell you get out what you put in. I can also tell you when I actively pursued a pure heart, my Christian life took a dramatic turn for the better and was more enjoyable.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 6/30/2009 6:15:33 PM
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I only watch what I would feel comfortable watching had Jesus been in the room with me.
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does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 6/30/2009 9:40:32 PM
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Statements like that confuse me because Jesus is always with me.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/1/2009 12:37:08 AM
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'R' rated movies? Yes, but I close my eyes when things are about to get messy and do 'earmuffs' when words are inappropriate. I figure Jesus would only want us to see the cute and cuddly stuff, and only hear the pleasant things in life.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/1/2009 8:16:04 AM
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Posting somewhat blind here. I used to not watch anything that was rated R. But now, I'm a bit more open to different movies and television shows, though I still remain selective. I try to get a sense of the movie before I rent or go out to see it. Is it something of substance? Who are the actors? What themes appear in their work? (Jodi Foster - strong female characters who are also vulnerable - for example - or Denzel Washington - strong male characters - can be good or evil - but very strong and solid). I also consider the director as some specialize in making films that are offensive, attack Christianity, and are tasteless. As a result, I don't see a whole lot of films, but generally, I tend to enjoy much of what I see.
So yes, I'd see a rated R movie. Is the sex, violence, and cursing something that is actually part of the story? Is it needed? Can you have Schindler's list without violence? What about Silence of the Lambs? Can you have Notes on a Scandal without the mention of sex? I would argue no for those films. I would place these movies in an entirely different category than say Year One - which incidentally wasn't rated R, but was so incredibly offensive it should have been. In fact it was rated R, but from what I read, they cut parts of the movie so that it would be rated PG-13 so that the studios could make more money (because that is what PG-13 is - a money maker - because more people will feel "safe" going to see it or sending their children and teens - even though the movies often - in spirit - are rated R).
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does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/1/2009 8:18:48 AM
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Great post rgod!
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/1/2009 8:35:32 AM
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Thanks PinkCarnation!
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/1/2009 12:42:38 PM
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I've seen one R rated movie, and that was "The Passion of the Christ." We generally stick to PG and G rated movies. Most of the movies I've seen that are rated PG-13 I felt were full of things that were not God-honoring, and I like to keep a clean conscience.
Ditto to Passion of the Christ,
This was after I got saved. I tell my son that I would not like for him to go see "R" rated movies or any movie that has a lot of cussing, sexual involvement, blaspheming, degrading, immoral stuff. I think that he makes good choices and for that I am thankful.
I think to honor God by keeping myself pure as it is written and watching any movie with the above listing is pointless and of the old man. Not matter how old I am or how long I've had this walk, there is nothing worth me seeing something on a screen that is distasteful, ornery and full of this world. NOTHING! To God be all the glory.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/1/2009 12:57:03 PM
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Statements like that confuse me because Jesus is always with me.
Exactly. That's important to keep in mind.
The thing that confuses me is how so many Christians claim to know the answer to WWJW(atch).
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/1/2009 10:55:52 PM
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rgod
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Statements like that confuse me because Jesus is always with me.
Exactly. That's important to keep in mind.
The thing that confuses me is how so many Christians claim to know the answer to WWJW(atch).
This is an interesting point. I think that when people talk about WWJW, it seems to me that what most are really saying is that they want to honor God in every day life by looking at things that glorify God (or at best, don't contain things that would be offensive to God - such as fornication, taking his name in vain, gratuitous violence, and the like). For some that means deciding to not watch certain movies or listen to certain types of music. But, if you think about it - Jesus has seen more than any movie can portray. He didn't just see Schindler's List - He was there. He actually experienced Passion of the Christ - and I'm sure in reality it was probably 100 times worse. He's seen things that have occured that would make the most twisted pornographer hang his head in shame or that would make a hardcore horror movie aficionado run screaming. The Lord watches all of our lives - he is omnipresent and omniscient (and a whole host of other omnis) - you could think of it as him literally watching the "reality" show called life.
But to honor God, many people choose not to watch or listen to things that will incite certain thoughts or emotions. They want to keep a pure heart. That seems to me to be a good reason not to do it. Or they choose to follow the admonition of scripture, to not take pleasure in the things that the ungodly do. That also seems like a good reason to me. Beyond that, some believe that there are spirits attached to certain movies and songs. I don't want to start some sort of theological argument here - but I believe this as well - if the Word is Spirit and life and if God inhabits praises and we have a sense of the Holy Spirit as we sing worship and praise songs and hymns, it would make sense that if we did the opposite, it is possible to make contact with something infinitely darker. This is why though I watch some rated R movies if I feel the message is sound and sex/violence is necessary to tell the story properly etc., I don't watch or listen to everything - not by a long shot. I'll even turn off trailer for certain movies - because sometimes there is a "wrongness" to it - almost like a presence that is attached to it (especially with some of the horror stuff). For me, this doesn't have anything to do with whether the film is R or PG or even G - it is about the spirit behind the movie. And because my spirit is sensitive, I can't watch or listen to everything. Not every believer feels this way - or believes this - and I'm not criticizing anyone who sees things differently. I'm just presenting another point of view concerning this.
In any event, I think that there are many reasons that people chose not to watch certain films. I think a lot of these things fall under the category of "it is permissable, but not everything is beneficial" - which means that we have to settle it within ourselves whether we should watch or see certain things.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/3/2009 12:32:07 PM
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I thought that Silence of the Lambs was a gross movie!
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/3/2009 12:35:46 PM
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I thought that Silence of the Lambs was a gross movie!
Which is weird for a movie about cannibals and serial killers. ; )
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/7/2009 10:59:22 PM
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Excellent post, rgod.
I feel similiarly that it is up to the individual. Some are able to handle more than others. Some people won't see "R" rated movies because they feel spiritually that they should not. Some people won't see them because they know what they see may cause them to stumble. Both of those reasons are cool with me.
Just as well there are others (like me) who are not bothered by what we see, or that appreciate that sometimes you need to be bothered (i.e. "Shindlers List").
I personally see no reason for the two to have conflicts. It is only for God to judge, and there's no point to condemning each other for either being "prudish" or "unGodly". We should be able to disagree with each other without being disagreeable to each other.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/9/2009 10:21:33 PM
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A local church is showing Slumdog Millionaire as part of their mission to India program and I'm really curious on how many people will show up because it's rated R. I watched the movie and I thought it was a really great movie and it's rated R for some reasons but not for the reason that some might think that rated R movie watching is bad for you.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/10/2009 3:01:38 AM
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i had a girlfriend, and she said she didnt watch r rated movies, so we watched unrated movies instead :P badda-bing badda-boom!
seriously though, i'm not a huge fan of r-rated movies if its profanity, or sex, or partying college movies.... but i love horror movies, and i love teh gore-fest movies of the 80s that were eitehr rated x, or just unrated. but i like it more from a technical stand-point... i just like to see the cool things the effects guys can pull off (back in the day before computers) with little budget (zombie movies of 70s and 80s) but i also love zombie movies in general.... and besides Night Of The Commet, theyr pretty much all R, X, or just Unrated. for my 18th birthday, i got my first dvds (2001) and it was the whole set of George A ROmero's zombie movies. that started it all.
FYI: teh 'X' rating was invented by the movie rating board copany, because they started seeing alot more violent movies coming in, after george romero started his zombie films. the board felt the violence was so overwhelming, that a simple R rating was not harsh enough. unfortunately, they board did not register the X for copyright, and very soon after the porno industry adapted the X for all their films, then the porn guys made the XXX to show it contained even more hard-core porn than X. at this point (only a couple years after teh movie board made the X) the theatres would not usually allow X rated movies in, because they didnt want to be associated with pornos, thus the Movie rating board did away with it, created the NC-17, and registered that rating for trademark. and most of teh reduculously violent movies of the 80s just decided to go with Unrated, even though it limited their movies still, more house would take an UNrated, than a X. and the NC-17 is still taboo, so most directors or companies will cut out teh bad parts to get a R, rather than go with NC-17 and have everyone assume its a porno.
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/18/2009 10:03:35 PM
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for the people who avoided R movies until Passion of the Christ, i am curious how you reacted to it. did it affirm your dislike of R movies? or did you reconsider your stance against them?
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RE: does any one watches rated r moiveS? - 7/18/2009 11:04:37 PM
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I watch very very few rated R movies especially since movies nowadays have a lot of immoral content in them. I'd go for action genres when it comes to rated R moves.
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