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RE: Wild at Heart or Every Man's Battle? - 8/20/2009 2:54:36 PM
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ChristianAttorney35
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To be honest, it's been a while since I've read Wild at Heart, and of all the Eldredge books I've read (all of them), it spoke to me the least. However, for a mens' discussion group, it's an excellent place to start the larger discussion of how our total life fits into the life in Christ. I can honestly say Eldredge does not gloss over being led by the Spirit. I am reading Walking With God, his latest book, right now, and I can tell you that is nearly 90% of the book...listening to God's Spirit for guidance and being prepared to follow it, no matter the cost. I think what irritates me the most with some of the other authors in this area is that they practice what Dallas Willard calls "The Gospel of Sin Management" aka behavior modification. Again, God's primary goal is our total and complete restoration through relationship with Him. He wants to restore us to that intimate relationship that Adam and Eve enjoyed before the Fall. This is the larger, total picture of our lives in Him, that places our healing in other areas (sexual sin, greed, etc.) in its proper context.
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RE: Wild at Heart or Every Man's Battle? - 8/24/2009 4:51:58 PM
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WilliamtheConqueror
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ORIGINAL: AnalystsAreUs Wild at Heart is a poor choice. John started out life as an Actor. Actors base their life on a fantasy world. This mentality seems to spill over in his book. He disses the Promise Keepers movement in once sentence. I guess with Bill M. being a championship football coach, he wasn't man enough for John. If I had to choose between John and Bill in a fire fight, I would choose Bill in a heart beat. Eldridge rationalizes seeing prono in movies. That makes me angry. And rumor has it, it makes God angry too. Is that emotion manly enough for John? The theology of chapter 1 is a complete joke. Yes, we know that he likes to be outside but basically says that all men like it, were born for it. That's a lie. I find fulfillment in other activities. I don't care for the out doors. Sure I will go on a hike on occasion but I don't live for it like he does. I find it odd that he does not mention Esau, the hunter anywhere in his book. Gen 25:27 says, So the boys grew. And Esau was a skillful hunter, a man of the field; but Jacob was a mild man, dwelling in tents. Pretty glaring over site on his part. Then again if he mentioned it, it would have ruined his premise for chapter 1. Guess it would make it a bit difficult to sell his book. He also said that Elijah went to the wilderness to recover his strength. Ah no. He went there to hide. From what? A woman!!! Not a very manly thing to do wouldn't you say? 1 King 19:2 -3 Then Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah, saying, "So let the gods do to me, and more also, if I do not make your life as the life of one of them by tomorrow about this time." And when he saw that, he arose and ran for his life, and went to Beersheba, which belongs to Judah, and left his servant there. 4 But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree. And he prayed that he might die, And Christ did not go out in the wilderness to explore. He went out their to be tempted, to be tested. To see if he was going to do things the wild, flashy Hollywood way or God's way. Matt 4:5 -6 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down... Though John does have a few good points. If you do read it, you will have to hold your nose on more than one occasion. I would like to suggest that Basic Training series from Top Gun Ministries , http://www.topgunministries.org/programs.asp , is much better. I would tend to agree with you. Also the author of Man in the Mirror is highly espoused by the hyper calvinists like Sprouls, but I'll bet they don't like the other authors. I was in a Men's group that was studying Every Man's Battle which might be OK, but the comments were so inane by the participants. Also one man who was divorced and remarried acted like he knew more than the rest of us which ticked me off as I have a seminary degree. Also I take a hard view on Divorce and Remarriage as do the scriptures. I simply dropped out of the group and the church as well. It was full of deacons/ elders who were either women and/or were divorced and remarried.
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