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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/21/2009 7:43:40 AM
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Uriah
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wow....just wow...it's a whole new level of making the text fit whatever crazy idea you come up with in 2009
So, I take it you subscribe to the terminator gospel then? Earth contaminated by radioactive fallout that lasts for what...thousands of yrs. AND the never ending nuclear winter?
"Since God "spoke" and brought everything into existence, it's unlikely He needs an asteroid to destroy it. "
Sooo-Rev. 8:8-What IS it? Why is it there. Does he really NEED this to destroy 1/3 of ships and 1/3 of sea creatures? According to scientists, such an event WOULD INDEED cause the sun to be darkened, make the hailstones and on and on.
Oh, but I probably got it wrong. God will completely reduce the universe to sub atomic particles---then re- create things pronto so He can set His feet down on an exact copy of Jerusalem with exact copies of the survivors listed in Zech. and so on.
"Hmm, looks like too much Hollywood and not enough Bible. "
You can stick with the Terminator version. Perhaps THAT is the amount of Hollywood/bible you are comfortable with.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/21/2009 8:58:07 AM
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So, I take it you subscribe to the terminator gospel then?
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"Terminator gospel"? As kelman said, comments like this are a result of too much Hollywood, and not enough time in the Word.
All traces of a sin scarred physical universe will be done away with, as we look forward to a "new heavens and new earth" (after Christ's 1000 year reign; judgments during the Great Tribulation are an entirely different matter, and an asteroid strike during that time is very possible).
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/21/2009 10:05:04 AM
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There has been the belief among Christians in America for decades that the world will end with global nuclear warfare fulfilling bible prophecy. This comes from people reading what Peter said about "elements" melting. As if it refers to plutonium. There isn't enough plutonium to "burn up" the planet anywhere. Hence the "terminator gospel".
Your premise of the new heaven (sky) and earth at the END of the 1000 yrs. needs to be looked at again. According to the apostle this happens when the current heaven "passes away" (changes) ON THE DAY OF THE LORD, which comes like a thief in the night. Are you willing to claim the thief- like coming is at the END of the thousand yrs?
Many misread what it says in Rev. 21 taking it to mean the new heaven and earth is AFTER the millennium. It is simply the next vision John sees, not the next in sequence of events.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/21/2009 10:27:58 AM
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Has anyone read Genesis 9:11? You know if I was alive 100 years before the event of the flood and were to read a prophecy about God destroying the earth with a flood, would I think that there would be no more earth?
Genesis 9:11 ( KJV ) 11And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/21/2009 12:47:30 PM
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i believe whatever sequence there is that life will always continue no matter what
another form might be taken human kind might be destroyed to whatever prophecy or vison that was thought upon a foundation.
like bob says we should look ahead and see what we can do further on i really agree to that. or what we can do before the ending
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/21/2009 12:49:41 PM
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what do we understan when we talk about destruction of the part of the univers where the earth is?
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/21/2009 11:27:34 PM
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There has been the belief among Christians in America for decades that the world will end with global nuclear warfare fulfilling bible prophecy. This comes from people reading what Peter said about "elements" melting.
Wrong. The destruction of the elements by fire occurs at the end of the 1,000 year reign of Christ, and God is the source of this unspeakable Power. The Power of God literally holds the universe together (call it "dark energy"), and one day it will go out of existence. Don't confuse the judgments of the Tribulation with the final destruction of the heavens and earth at the conclusion of the age. Your views on this topic are too sensationalistic, we have enough "Left Behind" style fantasy books, let's stick to the Word
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Many misread what it says in Rev. 21 taking it to mean the new heaven and earth is AFTER the millennium. It is simply the next vision John sees, not the next in sequence of events.
Wrong again. Revelation is generally chronological, that's clear from the text ("after this" etc). However, there are parenthetical chapters which fill in details concerning the overall prophetical account.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/22/2009 12:28:34 AM
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Roy we have a pretty good ideal about our sun and that is in time it will turn into a white dwarf; White dwarfs are thought to be the final evolutionary state of all stars whose mass is not too high—over 97% of the stars in our Galaxy. The stars with larger mass will turn into black holes or neutron stars. We have pretty sufficient evidence of this.
I would say that, yes the universe is going from a state of useful to non useful...just like our bodies.
But you're right, I've not been there and I'm not a expert...only God knows for sure.
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No, frankly we DON'T know that "in time it will turn into a white dwarf." That, too, is a conjecture based on a hypothetical model of the evolution of a star! It merely SEEMS to be so because of the way that theoretical astronomers have ordered the size and color (heat) of the stars into a "life cycle." However, the Scriptures say,
1 Cor 15:40-41
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
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Thus, although stars differ in "glory" (Greek: doxa = "brightness, apparency"), nothing in these verses suggest that some are older than others by that glory!
(The word "celestial," by the way, is the Greek word "epouranios" meaning "belonging to above-the-sky.")
The "evidence" that you say we have is again according to that "evolutionary time scale" that is merely hypothetical! Don't let these know-it-all's convince you stars have always been! Stars were created, too! ON THE FOURTH DAY OF CREATION! LOL! They haven't had all that much time to "evolve!"
Even the theoretical "black hole" (which theory is based on the size and weight of star compositions) is based on the RED and BLUE SHIFTS that scientists see in the spectra of stars! While this can tell us the composition of those stars (in turn based on the spectra of various burning elements), it cannot truly tell us anything about either the star's speed nor its age!
REMEMBER: God created everything WITH AN APPEARANCE OF AGE, but the stars are a just a few thousand years old, like the rest of Creation.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/22/2009 1:10:18 AM
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Roy...it's an interesting discussion but I think God will intervene before we have a chance to determine who is right.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/22/2009 2:03:29 AM
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"Since God "spoke" and brought everything into existence, it's unlikely He needs an asteroid to destroy it. "
Sooo-Rev. 8:8-What IS it? Why is it there. Does he really NEED this to destroy 1/3 of ships and 1/3 of sea creatures? According to scientists, such an event WOULD INDEED cause the sun to be darkened, make the hailstones and on and on. I think the opinion of scientists hold little value when we attempt to understand such a metaphorical book as Revelation.
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Oh, but I probably got it wrong. God will completely reduce the universe to sub atomic particles---then re- create things pronto so He can set His feet down on an exact copy of Jerusalem with exact copies of the survivors listed in Zech. and so on. Actually, there is little scriptural room to deny that God will destroy this universe and recreate new heavens and a new earth which will be compatible with the recreated "glorified" bodies of believers.
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"Hmm, looks like too much Hollywood and not enough Bible. "
You can stick with the Terminator version. Perhaps THAT is the amount of Hollywood/bible you are comfortable with.
I can only tell you what the Bible "version" says:
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
which agrees with Isaiah....
For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/22/2009 2:04:33 AM
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There has been the belief among Christians in America for decades that the world will end with global nuclear warfare fulfilling bible prophecy. This comes from people reading what Peter said about "elements" melting. As if it refers to plutonium. There isn't enough plutonium to "burn up" the planet anywhere. Hence the "terminator gospel". But where do they get this from?....certainly not the Bible. Again, God didn't need anything to create this world and He definitely doesn't need man's help to destroy it.
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Your premise of the new heaven (sky) and earth at the END of the 1000 yrs. needs to be looked at again. According to the apostle this happens when the current heaven "passes away" (changes) ON THE DAY OF THE LORD, which comes like a thief in the night. Are you willing to claim the thief- like coming is at the END of the thousand yrs? I agree with you here, although, probably for a different reason. The "Day of the Lord" is judgment day in which this present universe will be destroyed and God will recreate "new heavens and earth" where Christ will dwell forever with believers.
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Many misread what it says in Rev. 21 taking it to mean the new heaven and earth is AFTER the millennium. It is simply the next vision John sees, not the next in sequence of events.
Well, since there is no "1,000 year" reign of Christ on this sin-cursed earth, what takes place in Rev 21 will follow the destruction of this earth which will bring about God promise: "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/22/2009 5:30:05 AM
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Great post Kelman.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/22/2009 4:42:08 PM
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Actually, there is Prophecy of a time period when the comet runs the sky as a sign of the end times coming to fulfillment.
Also, these two Witnesses are endowed with Power from on High to do as many plagues as they so desire upon the inhabitants of earth.
One wonders less, whether these ten leaders will be speaking evil of The One for they are given the mouth of the next verse where the empire is eventually given a mouth that utters against God for they have no control over these events and they will not know what to do is written. Because of their speaking they will encite a war on those who do not take the mark of the number of the name of the false prophet whom they will grab hold of the raimant in covenant for he will cause them to replace the former ordering of things for commerce to give himself the honor of worship and prestige instead of what is good which is to lay down ones life for their beliefs and not to sell out for any worldly governance that is oppressive and dictatorial and demands worship of itself from the peoples, instead of giving honor to God for allowing these things to be built. For God caused Nebucadnezzar who was Prophesied as King to be submitted to by all of the peoples and nations under his great Empire to eat grass for seven as a sign of what was to come regarding the pride of peoples and what they do and what they have and what they had done, instead of giving honor to God who builds and causes the cities to grow and provides for all of the peoples.
This is the sign, that those trust in only their own strength will eat grass like a wild animal for seven years.
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So, I take it you subscribe to the terminator gospel then?
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"Terminator gospel"? As kelman said, comments like this are a result of too much Hollywood, and not enough time in the Word.
All traces of a sin scarred physical universe will be done away with, as we look forward to a "new heavens and new earth" (after Christ's 1000 year reign; judgments during the Great Tribulation are an entirely different matter, and an asteroid strike during that time is very possible).
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/22/2009 6:25:00 PM
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Shabbat shalom, Bob.
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Roy...it's an interesting discussion but I think God will intervene before we have a chance to determine who is right.
Bob
LOL! No doubt!
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/22/2009 7:23:04 PM
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Shabbat shalom, Uriah.
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There has been the belief among Christians in America for decades that the world will end with global nuclear warfare fulfilling bible prophecy. This comes from people reading what Peter said about "elements" melting. As if it refers to plutonium. There isn't enough plutonium to "burn up" the planet anywhere. Hence the "terminator gospel".
Your premise of the new heaven (sky) and earth at the END of the 1000 yrs. needs to be looked at again. According to the apostle this happens when the current heaven "passes away" (changes) ON THE DAY OF THE LORD, which comes like a thief in the night. Are you willing to claim the thief- like coming is at the END of the thousand yrs?
Many misread what it says in Rev. 21 taking it to mean the new heaven and earth is AFTER the millennium. It is simply the next vision John sees, not the next in sequence of events.
Hmmmph! What kind of theology ends in Judgment?! Especially the Great White Throne Judgment?! That's goofy. OF COURSE Rev. 21 and 22 comes AFTER the millennium in Rev. 20 which is mentioned as the incarceration of haSatan (the Enemy) during which time Yeshua` has already begun to reign. Can't you see that there are many similarities between chapters 21 and 22 and Genesis chapters 1-3? Thus, the New Earth and its New Atmosphere are a RE-CREATION of the original Gan-Eden.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/22/2009 11:16:02 PM
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I agree with you here, although, probably for a different reason. The "Day of the Lord" is judgment day in which this present universe will be destroyed and God will recreate "new heavens and earth" where Christ will dwell forever with believers.
There is more than one "Day of the Lord" referenced in scripture: 1) the conclusion of the Great Tribulation, 2) the conclusion of the 1,000 year reign of Christ, at the time of the great revolt against the Lord
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/23/2009 2:57:13 AM
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Great post Kelman.
Thanks, GodsMusic. It's hard to argue against a 1,000 year physical reign of Christ on this sin cursed earth since it's such an accepted concept. So, it's always good to learn of others who understand that this is really not taught in Scripture.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/23/2009 2:59:54 AM
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I agree with you here, although, probably for a different reason. The "Day of the Lord" is judgment day in which this present universe will be destroyed and God will recreate "new heavens and earth" where Christ will dwell forever with believers.
There is more than one "Day of the Lord" referenced in scripture: 1) the conclusion of the Great Tribulation, 2) the conclusion of the 1,000 year reign of Christ, at the time of the great revolt against the Lord
Scripture uses "day of the Lord"; "day of Jesus Christ"(1Cor 1:8; 2Cor 1:14); "day of God"(2Peter 3:12) and many other similar phrases. All of which refer to the "last day" when the Lord will return to rapture believers, destroy this world and recreate the new heavens and new earth.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/23/2009 12:19:46 PM
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Nope. The destruction of the present heavens and earth, as cited in 2 Peter 3 and Revelation 21, does not occur until after the 1,000 year reign of Christ.
The repture of the Church must occur before Daniel's 70th Week, the final severn years allotted to the Jews (it cannot pertain to the Church). At the conclusion of Daniel's 70th Week, the Jews will still be cleaning up the mess of war, that isn't a new heaven and new earth!
Note Ezekiel 39 (also read Daniel 12 and Zechariah 14, which speak of activities when the 1,000 year reign begins)
I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am the Holy One in Israel. It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign LORD. This is the day I have spoken of.
" 'Then those who live in the towns of Israel will go out and use the weapons for fuel and burn them up—the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears. For seven years they will use them for fuel. They will not need to gather wood from the fields or cut it from the forests, because they will use the weapons for fuel. And they will plunder those who plundered them and loot those who looted them, declares the Sovereign LORD.
The seven years Israel is using weapons for fuel extends right into the 1,000 year reign of Christ. Intersting how (assumed) steel weapons are used for fuel, huh? A mystery to me.
The surviving Jews and what is left of the Elect Gentiles will repopulate the earth, and the earth will be restored, but not recreated, until after the 1,000 year reign, THEN the SECOND Day of the Lord in I Peter 3 and Revelation 21 occurs, when Satan leads a massive revolt agianst Christ the King, but they are all destroyed, Satan is bound forever, and the new heavens and new earth, free of all evil influences, begins.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/23/2009 7:58:54 PM
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We're really close to agreeing yzf...except for the pre-trib rapture anyway. 
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/23/2009 8:33:06 PM
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yzf-r1, Shalom.
You ask: "The seven years Israel is using weapons for fuel extends right into the 1,000 year reign of Christ. Intersting how (assumed) steel weapons are used for fuel, huh? A mystery to me. "
Ever watch a 'smelter?' It actually looks as if the cauldron has burning material in it. Another thing, as I understand, Russian tanks are made of a synthetic material, other than cast metal, which if heated to sufficient temperature, actually is usable as fuel for fire, and burns quite hot. That is what I hear.
Just a thought. And I am also 'Hoping' for Pre-Trib Rapture. I want to hear all those surprised expletives, as we join formation, for the flight home.  Yeeeee-Haaaa!! (traveling with double wing-tanks, of smiles)
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/24/2009 9:45:10 AM
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So we can see that it is a wacky idea that many have believed, that the elements will melt in fervent heat is fulfilled by world wide nuclear warfare.
Next, what nobody here has dealt with is that the heavens will PASS AWAY ON THE DAY OF THE LORD!!! The Day of the Lord comes LIKE A THIEF!!! This wording is used for the SECOND COMING OF JESUS. This is NOT after 1000yrs. How can you ignore this?
Kelman said, " The "Day of the Lord" is judgment day in which this present universe will be destroyed and God will recreate "new heavens and earth" where Christ will dwell forever with believers." So my question is; will Jesus re-create everything so he can set His feet down upon the earth just in time? Will he re-create the survivors of the tribulation? After all, does He comes as a thief more than once?
For example, yzf-r1 said, "There is more than one "Day of the Lord" referenced in scripture: 1) the conclusion of the Great Tribulation, 2) the conclusion of the 1,000 year reign of Christ, at the time of the great revolt against the Lord"
Ecc 1:4 [One] generation passeth away, and [another] generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
Anybody here BELIEVE this?
Psa 104:5 [Who] laid the foundations of the earth, [that] it should not be removed for ever. Does THIS conflict with what you say?
Eze 39:14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search. Gonna re-create some corpses too, you know... just for effect?
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/24/2009 10:00:37 AM
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Ecc 1:4 [One] generation passeth away, and [another] generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
Anybody here BELIEVE this?
Yes Uriah, I believe that the earth will endure. It might be laid bare and altered in form but it will not in my opinion be destroyed.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/24/2009 11:08:28 AM
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Hi Bob,
Right! Like the comparison Peter makes to the flood of Noah"s day. Same earth, new world. Some here, it appears, believe that the entire universe is going to be reduced to sub-atomic particles, then instantly re-made. It is because of a misunderstanding of what is written and not considering the outcomes of such scenarios when compared to other scriptures. I am not trying to twist anybody's arm to believe it "my way". I am only pointing out that more careful attention needs to be paid to what we believe.
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RE: Will the UNIVERSE be destroyed? - 5/24/2009 1:34:13 PM
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Shalom, kelman.
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Great post Kelman.
Thanks, GodsMusic. It's hard to argue against a 1,000 year physical reign of Christ on this sin cursed earth since it's such an accepted concept. So, it's always good to learn of others who understand that this is really not taught in Scripture.
Oh, but it is. You see, you not only must take the teachings in Revelation but also Paul's argument in I Corinthians 15:
1 Cor 15:19-28
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: (1) Christ the firstfruits; (2) afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then (3) cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
KJV
The order that Paul teaches here is that there are three resurrections: the Messiah Himself being the firstfruits is the first resurrection (or maybe we should count this as the 0th resurrection), then the second resurrection (or the first resurrection for the saints) at the Messiah's coming, and then a third (or second) general resurrection AFTER the Kingdom of God is delivered into the Father's hands. The KEY here is verse 26. Comparing and harmonizing this verse to Rev. 20, we can read the following:
Rev 20:7-15
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
KJV
This second death, which includes the destruction of death and the grave (Greek: hades and Hebrew: sheol), occurs AFTER haSatan is released, thus AFTER the 1000 years. Therefore, this last resurrection mentioned in I Corinthians occurs AFTER the 1000 years, and before the New Earth, its New Atmosphere, and the landing of the New Jerusalem.
See, during the last 1000 years of this second earth and atmosphere, the curse is only PARTIALLY lifted!
Isa 11:1-11
1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
KJV
Isa 65:19-25
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.
KJV
Hope this helps you sort all this out.
In the Messiah's love,
Roy
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