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RE: Self Denial.. - 7/1/2009 6:00:23 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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wow. what a defeatist doctrine.
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RE: Self Denial.. - 7/2/2009 12:58:24 AM
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mamajennleigh
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Our congregation taught that you had already lost it between the time you were at the altar and when you walked out the door. "You have already committed 20 sins you know nothing about...." The pastor once quipped that he or someone else should have a gun to blow people away while still on their knees to ensure they went to heaven.
I wish I could say that statement shocks me, but coming from my background, it sounds familiar. My dad was the pastor and he used to scare me to death with his speeches on what would happen if we had sinned but weren't aware of it and then God came back and we would go to hell. I lived in constant fear, and it really caused me to be sour on church for many many years. Of course, on the topic of self-denial, it became a sort of "badge" of your holiness. If my dad met a woman who wore no makeup and had her hair in a bun, he automatically assumed she was a good christian woman. He was usually wrong.
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