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scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 12:58:01 AM
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Aubrey1999
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I'm 28 years old and last year finally found the love of my life and as cheesy as it may sound I know God brought us together. We are looking at getting married in the next year and a half and it is a deep desire of my heart to do so. My mom is a passionate student of end times prophecy and her reports on how that relates to todays events combined with some recent phophetic miracle accounts a woman spoke about in church have me absolutely scared to death to be raptured soon and even in tears about it! I know this seems ridiculous and selfish but I don't know how to reconcile these feelings? I fully surrendered my life to Christ in 2005 and ever since have experienced (some times more than others) his love and grace but to be absolutely honest I don't feel happy or even okay with the idea that #1 there is no marrige in heaven and #2 my even DEEPER fear is that I will loose the intimacy I have now with my husband to be in heaven. I feel crazy saying this but it scares me and actually hurts me to think that we will all be equal to each other in heaven. I feel like God gave my boyfriend and I to each other as a gift and the closeness and trust we share is special. I'm going to lose that in heaven? I waited 27 years to find it and I feel like God is coming back any day and I'm going to #1 miss out on maybe even being married to the man I love and #2 when we get to heaven since we are going to be like brothers and sisters with everyone else so we won't share an exclusive love or closeness with each other there? I know I should love God with all my heart, mind and soul so am I failing in doing so by feeling this way about the rapture to be? How do I get a grip on this? I know that all over the world people are in misery and bondage so how could I be so selfish as to just think about what I want here on this earth?
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 1:19:56 AM
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The World was supposed to end many, many, times. http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrld.htm Scroll down until you see this list:
prior to 1990
1990 to 1997
in 1998
in 1999
in 2000
in 2001
in 2002
in 2003
in 2004
in 2005
in 2006
2007 or 2008
2009 or 2010
The world is still going.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 9:11:29 AM
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I'm 28 years old and last year finally found the love of my life and as cheesy as it may sound I know God brought us together. We are looking at getting married in the next year and a half and it is a deep desire of my heart to do so. My mom is a passionate student of end times prophecy and her reports on how that relates to todays events combined with some recent phophetic miracle accounts a woman spoke about in church have me absolutely scared to death to be raptured soon and even in tears about it! I know this seems ridiculous and selfish but I don't know how to reconcile these feelings? I fully surrendered my life to Christ in 2005 and ever since have experienced (some times more than others) his love and grace but to be absolutely honest I don't feel happy or even okay with the idea that #1 there is no marrige in heaven and #2 my even DEEPER fear is that I will loose the intimacy I have now with my husband to be in heaven. I feel crazy saying this but it scares me and actually hurts me to think that we will all be equal to each other in heaven. I feel like God gave my boyfriend and I to each other as a gift and the closeness and trust we share is special. I'm going to lose that in heaven? I waited 27 years to find it and I feel like God is coming back any day and I'm going to #1 miss out on maybe even being married to the man I love and #2 when we get to heaven since we are going to be like brothers and sisters with everyone else so we won't share an exclusive love or closeness with each other there? I know I should love God with all my heart, mind and soul so am I failing in doing so by feeling this way about the rapture to be? How do I get a grip on this? I know that all over the world people are in misery and bondage so how could I be so selfish as to just think about what I want here on this earth?
Believe you me: when the Rapture happens (whether before I finish typing this or 100 years from now...) your boyfriend will be the least of your concerns. As to why your are having all these odd feelings, I can't explain. you are without a doubt the first person I have ever heard of that has them...and you are right: they do sound pretty selfish.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 9:31:04 AM
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Aubrey,
If everyone o here will be completely honest we all have "selfish" thoughts about heaven. For some is is seeing mom and dad or other lovedones they have lost. FOr others it is seeing a child that died. For you it is thoughts about your husband or husband to be. Don't worry about having these thoughts. We do not know what is instore for us in Heaven. However, the Bible teaches it is far better than anything we could imagine. I will give you the same advice I have given to other people. If it makes you happy here on earth believe what you will about what you will see, do and know in Heaven. When you get there I don't believe you will even be concerned with that. God Bless.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 10:24:17 AM
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ORIGINAL: Aubrey1999
I'm 28 years old and last year finally found the love of my life and as cheesy as it may sound I know God brought us together. We are looking at getting married in the next year and a half and it is a deep desire of my heart to do so. My mom is a passionate student of end times prophecy and her reports on how that relates to todays events combined with some recent phophetic miracle accounts a woman spoke about in church have me absolutely scared to death to be raptured soon and even in tears about it! I know this seems ridiculous and selfish but I don't know how to reconcile these feelings? I fully surrendered my life to Christ in 2005 and ever since have experienced (some times more than others) his love and grace but to be absolutely honest I don't feel happy or even okay with the idea that #1 there is no marrige in heaven and #2 my even DEEPER fear is that I will loose the intimacy I have now with my husband to be in heaven. I feel crazy saying this but it scares me and actually hurts me to think that we will all be equal to each other in heaven. I feel like God gave my boyfriend and I to each other as a gift and the closeness and trust we share is special. I'm going to lose that in heaven? I waited 27 years to find it and I feel like God is coming back any day and I'm going to #1 miss out on maybe even being married to the man I love and #2 when we get to heaven since we are going to be like brothers and sisters with everyone else so we won't share an exclusive love or closeness with each other there? I know I should love God with all my heart, mind and soul so am I failing in doing so by feeling this way about the rapture to be? How do I get a grip on this? I know that all over the world people are in misery and bondage so how could I be so selfish as to just think about what I want here on this earth?
Your post brought back memories when I felt this way too..and this was back in the 70's when I was in high school. I wondered if I would get the opportunity to get married, have a family, live a long life?? I was very concerned about this just as you seem to be. This type of worry can cause people to make some horrible mistakes just due to fear.
I encourage you not to worry..God does have everything under control. The way I see it, our human minds cannot comprehend the glorious and wonderous events that God has for us when the time for this world is be done and the new world to begin. Its scary because we don't know, and, because even in our sinful world, we somewhat know what to expect and we want what others before us have had.
Give your fear to the Lord...allow Him to replace it with confidence, peace and an understanding that He has a plan for you and that plan will be completed.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 11:54:05 AM
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I don't feel happy or even okay with the idea that
#1 there is no marrige in heaven and
#2 my even DEEPER fear is that I will loose the intimacy I have now with my husband to be in heaven. I believe this idea has been taught as doctrine but has little scriptural support. We know that covenants are eternal, and that husband and wife become "one." (Hebrew word is echad - the same word for the unity of God used in Deut 6)
Lets look at the texts used for this teaching. Please note what was the focus of the question and HIS answer:
Luk 20:27 Now there came to Him some of the Sadducees (who say that there is no resurrection),
Luk 20:28 and they questioned Him, saying, "Teacher, Moses wrote for us that IF A MAN'S BROTHER DIES, having a wife, AND HE IS CHILDLESS, HIS BROTHER SHOULD MARRY THE WIFE AND RAISE UP CHILDREN TO HIS BROTHER.
Luk 20:29 "Now there were seven brothers; ......................
Luk 20:33 "In the resurrection therefore, which one's wife will she be? For all seven had married her."
Mat 22:29 But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
Mar 12:25 "For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
Grooms marry. Brides are given in marriage to their respective grooms. It says they do not get married - no new marriages. Please note that it does not say that existing marriages are dissolved.
Now if we look at the Luke version, we get somthing else that has also been (IMO) taken to mean something else.
Luk 20:34 Jesus said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage,
Luk 20:35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;
Luk 20:36 for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Some have taken this to mean that ONLY those who remain celebate in this life can attain the resurrection of the dead. Clearly that cannot be the case as Peter was married, as were most of the other disciples. Unless you really believe that Peter went to hell.
Please remember this statement was NOT EVER to be considered a teaching on what marital relations were in Heaven, but as a proof to the Saduceans concerning resurrection. Jesus never really answers the question. He answers the attitude behind the question. (He did that frequently) It should not be construed any other way.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 2:22:01 PM
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ctpruitt
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I don't feel happy or even okay with the idea that
#1 there is no marrige in heaven and
#2 my even DEEPER fear is that I will loose the intimacy I have now with my husband to be in heaven. I believe this idea has been taught as doctrine but has little scriptural support. We know that covenants are eternal, and that husband and wife become "one." (Hebrew word is echad - the same word for the unity of God used in Deut 6)
Lets look at the texts used for this teaching. Please note what was the focus of the question and HIS answer:
Luk 20:27 Now there came to Him some of the Sadducees (who say that there is no resurrection),
Luk 20:28 and they questioned Him, saying, "Teacher, Moses wrote for us that IF A MAN'S BROTHER DIES, having a wife, AND HE IS CHILDLESS, HIS BROTHER SHOULD MARRY THE WIFE AND RAISE UP CHILDREN TO HIS BROTHER.
Luk 20:29 "Now there were seven brothers; ......................
Luk 20:33 "In the resurrection therefore, which one's wife will she be? For all seven had married her."
Mat 22:29 But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
Mar 12:25 "For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
Grooms marry. Brides are given in marriage to their respective grooms. It says they do not get married - no new marriages. Please note that it does not say that existing marriages are dissolved.
Now if we look at the Luke version, we get somthing else that has also been (IMO) taken to mean something else.
Luk 20:34 Jesus said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage,
Luk 20:35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;
Luk 20:36 for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Some have taken this to mean that ONLY those who remain celebate in this life can attain the resurrection of the dead. Clearly that cannot be the case as Peter was married, as were most of the other disciples. Unless you really believe that Peter went to hell.
Please remember this statement was NOT EVER to be considered a teaching on what marital relations were in Heaven, but as a proof to the Saduceans concerning resurrection. Jesus never really answers the question. He answers the attitude behind the question. (He did that frequently) It should not be construed any other way.
Well, there is one glaring problem here: Jesus was answering their question: if, indeed, marriages will continue in Heaven that made here on Earth, how will people who have been married multiple times be dealt with? You are sidestepping the question by trying to argue that Jesus was not directly answering their question, mainly because you don't agree with His answer.
Let me just give you His answer, even tho you you don't think He answered it:
(1) The marriage relationship is over upon death. The phrase "til death do us part" is not just a rhetorical statement; it is very much a theological fact:
Jesus mentioned the angels which do not reproduce nor die. I have told my wife a number of times if I die, get remarried. Our relationship is done with...over...finished.
(2) Marriage was and is mainly for reproduction. Lots of people don't like that for some reason. I have heard couples say "marriage is for my happiness" or something similar. In Genesis, nothing about "happiness" or any other reason in mentioned; only the phrase "be fruitful and multiply" I have heard couples to wrangle out of this in the most convoluted ways over the years. And it all boils down to selfishness: "my happiness" etc. While the marriage relationship should be comforting to both, that is not the only reason. If children were born in heaven, they would have no ability to choose to accept or reject God. This is because there is no allowance for rebellion and sin in heaven. For example, we know that angles do not receive grace, but are condemned on their first act of disobedience to God. Therefore, any children born would be forced to accept God - something God never does.
(3) I think this quote sums it up:
Although marriage is good and represents the most intimate relationship we can experience on earth, it should not be idolized. If you love your spouse more than God then he/she has become an idol. The most important commandment is to love God "with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind."13 We will be with our loved ones in heaven (for those who believe). However, we will not be married to our spouses, since that relationship will be superseded by our relationship with Jesus, since we will be "married" to Jesus. This is not the description of a sexual relationship, but a description of an intimacy that is only approximated by what exists between a husband and a wife. Marriage on earth is merely a glimpse of the relationship God intends to have with us in heaven. It is the purpose for which we were created. Religion that substitutes marriage and family as an idol in place of God is a false religion.
And, by the way, Jesus always directly answered every question. You and I can't always do that, but we were/are not God. He did not have to try to evade any question. If He had not answered this question, the Pharisees would have simply asked another...but even they realized He gave them an answer.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 2:49:07 PM
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I agree with ctpruitt... Jesus meant there is no marriage in heaven.
As for the OP.... I have had similar thoughts before. lol. I don't think it's bad thing to think. After all this world is all we really know so far. I've only been married to my husband for three years and the thought of it being otherwise is kind of sad to me. In multiple places though, the Bible compares marriage to Christ and the church. We are his bride. I believe that marriage is just of foreshadowing of the intimacy we'll experience with God in heaven. Sin in the world prevents us from experiences that kind of depth on the earth right now. The way we feel about our spouses, I believe, is what we'll experience with God after this life... and I think that's how God feels about us. Why would he offer up Jesus? Because he doesn't want to be separated from his bride.
I trust God, and I know there is so much more after this life that I can't begin to imagine. When you think about it like that.... it's something to get excited about. If our spouses are saved, they'll be there too. Our relationship with them will simply be different.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 3:12:31 PM
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Grooms marry. Brides are given in marriage to their respective grooms. It says they do not get married - no new marriages. Please note that it does not say that existing marriages are dissolved.
But in the case under discussion, Jesus was specifically talking about "existing" marriages.
Do you think people that remarry after their spouse dies will be married to TWO people in heaven?
In later scripture, we are told that the marriage bonds cease at death.
A wife is bound as long as her husband lives; but if her husband is dead, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.
-1 Corinthians 7:39
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 3:47:25 PM
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I am also 28 and have gone through this same thing in the past. My husband and I have been married 8 mostly happy years and for the first few years and during our engagement I had these same fears. The Left Behind Series was still being written, so end times prophesy was at the forefront of most people's minds. First, I just want to say that we are not meant to wait in fear for the end times. We are here on earth to serve God and His people and focus on loving Him and his people, not fearing for our lives and the things we have. (Those who would save their lives will lose it) And a previous poster is right, there have been end times predictions since the BEGINNING times. Paul fully expected the return of Christ to be during HIS time. NOONE, not the woman whose prophesizing, not LaHaye, not the Mayan calendar, knows the day of the Lord. Only God. He hasn't even filled Christ in on the end days (not the angels or even the son, but only the father knows) so why would you think that some woman your mom knows have an "in" on the end times. Its ridiculous. Secondly, just love your fiance and enjoy all the time you have together and don't worry that it could be over tommorow. One of you could fall ill or have an accident and it could be over. You both could live peaceful boring lives until you are 104...you just don't know what your time line is. The important thing is that you love and love fully and have no regrets on that end. And give your heart and all of your fears to Christ, and withhold nothing, including the lvoe for your fiance. I have rededicated my heart to Christ over and over again and each time I feel the love I have for my husband increase from Christ's blessings. I have stopped fearing about how much time I have left to love my husband and I just focus on the here and now.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 4:13:16 PM
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Marriage in Heaven?
Nah...
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Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
You know, I really love my wife and stuff. But, married for eternity?
...and I thought my "honey do" list was long now. <shudder>
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 4:52:16 PM
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Marriage in Heaven?
Nah...
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Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
You know, I really love my wife and stuff. But, married for eternity?
...and I thought my "honey do" list was long now. <shudder>
HAHAHAHAAH! Your post made me think of something I saw once: I do cemetary surveys. I go around looking at graveyards and photographing them and indexing the names and eventually get around to posting the info on various web sites. Over the years, I have seen strange stuff on headstones. One of the funniest was at one of the oldest churches in the SE in Banks County GA. Typically, Momma and Daddy will share a headstone and any children who had the desire will be next to them. I saw a headstone of Daddy. Then Mother was about 10 ft to the right. Inbetween was nothing as far as I could tell. Just empty space. On Daddy's headstone, down at the very bottom, in very small print was the phrase "no, I am not lying next to her for all eternity". On hers was a matching phrase "I am not either!"...
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 5:14:29 PM
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I don't think it's selfish to want to be married and to wish for the marriage to continue in heaven. I think it's a God given desire to love and appreciate marriage to that extent.
It's also important to realize that heaven will NOT BE DISAPPOINTING. We will be satisfied and fulfilled in every way. We can't imagine it, but we can trust that God's goodness and provision will be ALL that we need and desire.
Marriage as an eternal covenant is a central Mormon doctrine. I don't see biblical support for that.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 7:04:46 PM
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Thank you so much mamagriz it helps to feel like I'm not crazy and someone else has felt this way. I do think what you and others have hit on being-trust is something I have had a really hard time with for a long time. I have to work very hard to remember I can trust God and what it means to say he loves me. I will take all of these words of advice to heart from everyone!
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 7:14:56 PM
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One more thing: mamagriz you mentioned that it was ridculous to say this woman at church would be let "in" on Jesus coming back. While I completely understand where you are coming from my mom (who can be intimidating at times because of the strength and knowldege she displays in her convictions) says that the Bible tell us God does nothing without telling his prophets. Is this true? The story the woman told in church was about picking up a hitchhiker she felt God told her to pick up who after she asked him if he was hugry or thirsty and he said no he turned to her and said "I'm about to blow the trumphet" and then dissapeared. She pulled over flipping out and when a police car pulled over to see if she was okay she finally admitted to him what she had just experienced and he said "well mam that's the 5th time I heard that story on this road." I know she is just one woman and many others before have predicted end times but doesn't that story seem either one fabricated and insane or INCREDIBLY telling??? unless this woman who seems to have a reputable character and be a strong christian is outright lying then she really experienced this. How do you go on living your life day to day with that kind of news? I can pray about trying to remember that Heaven is a satisfying wonderful renunion with God but how do I look ahead during my time on earth now? I feel crazy! Am I soupoused to look ahead at my life and my dreams and aspirations or am I soupoused to take that woman's message and start living as if Jesus could come back any minute? (mind you I know that we should have an eternal focus and not temporal anyways.) but i feel like I was told I have a terminal illness.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 8:28:34 PM
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I don't think youre being selfish, either. I would just encourage you to live for today to the fullest. You know we are not promised the next breath, much less another tommorrow. Enjoy life with your loved one now and leave the rest of the worry at the foot of the cross. God bless ya.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/15/2009 10:37:17 PM
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Aubrey1999
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Thank you everyone! Your words of encouragement and hope are very helpful to me! I appreciaet you all taking the time to reply to my post! God bless!
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/16/2009 9:17:49 AM
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Well, there is one glaring problem here: Jesus was answering their question: if, indeed, marriages will continue in Heaven that made here on Earth, how will people who have been married multiple times be dealt with? You are sidestepping the question by trying to argue that Jesus was not directly answering their question, mainly because you don't agree with His answer. quote:
Do you think people that remarry after their spouse dies will be married to TWO people in heaven?
In later scripture, we are told that the marriage bonds cease at death.
A wife is bound as long as her husband lives; but if her husband is dead, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. -1 Corinthians 7:39 I so don't get how to get my point across; everyone thinks I am saying something else. I am NOT saying that marriages are continued in heaven. I am also NOT saying they aren't. You guys are all arguing on how they have to be ended at death or the rapture. I am arguing against that idea. If someone on here was arguing that marriage had to continue on, I would argue against that as well. A good example would be someone in a mixed marriage where one was saved and the other not. Married but your spouse is in the other place? I think not.
The point I am trying to prove: we don't have enough information to make a claim one way or the other. And it is OK to not have an answer.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/16/2009 4:07:28 PM
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I believe that in heaven we won't know each other as mother, father, sister, husband, child, friend...etc but when we see those persons that we had a deep bond with on earth that we will feel that deep bond when we are with them or around them. It will be feelings of extreme happiness and that will be all. Just think that there will be no tears or sorrow in heaven so those people that I just metioned won't remember that at some point in their life that you might have let them down or said something ugly to them. They will just feel joy and deep compassion for you and you for them. What more could you ask for! Besides, there will be so much going on in heaven there won't be time to worry about where is my spouse today and what is he doing...because he will be doing the same as you..worshiping God day and night and enjoying eternal peace.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/16/2009 4:13:26 PM
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Well, there is one glaring problem here: Jesus was answering their question: if, indeed, marriages will continue in Heaven that made here on Earth, how will people who have been married multiple times be dealt with? You are sidestepping the question by trying to argue that Jesus was not directly answering their question, mainly because you don't agree with His answer. quote:
Do you think people that remarry after their spouse dies will be married to TWO people in heaven?
In later scripture, we are told that the marriage bonds cease at death.
A wife is bound as long as her husband lives; but if her husband is dead, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. -1 Corinthians 7:39 I so don't get how to get my point across; everyone thinks I am saying something else. I am NOT saying that marriages are continued in heaven. I am also NOT saying they aren't. You guys are all arguing on how they have to be ended at death or the rapture. I am arguing against that idea. If someone on here was arguing that marriage had to continue on, I would argue against that as well. A good example would be someone in a mixed marriage where one was saved and the other not. Married but your spouse is in the other place? I think not.
The point I am trying to prove: we don't have enough information to make a claim one way or the other. And it is OK to not have an answer.
Dave, I just disagree with you. There is ample reason to believe that the only marriage in heaven will be between The Groom and His Bride. None of our relationships will be the same when we no longer see through a glass darkly.
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RE: scared about the absence of marriage in heaven - 6/16/2009 8:08:36 PM
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mamagriz
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Aubrey1999,
Im not necessarily calling that woman a liar, but that same story I have seen in both a movie (can't remember the name, though I think it was Hitchhiker, it was a cloud 10 movie and released around 2001 before my husband and I got married) and then its an email forward that has gone around before, each time with details changed. It's an inspiring story, but no I wouldn't jump to believe it if someone told me they experienced it first hand.
ETA: if you go to any of the myth sites (ie. snopes.com) and type in "hitchhiker" you will find that this story has been told and retold since as soon as the 1940's. So, I'd say pretty certainly that the woman at your church is just a charimatic story teller and nothing more. We are to beware of false prophets and clearly, she is not completely truthful.
I believe strongly that YES! the Lord is coming back and Halleluia for that! I just don't think its wise to wait in fear for it. It could be tommorow, it could be a thousand years from now, it could be a million years from now. The only thing we can do is to be faithful to the promise we made to the Lord when we accepted him in our hearts, which is to love Him with all our hearts, all our minds, all our strength, and to love others as we love ourselves. Love, love strongly, and love unconditionally. Jesus told us that we are not to worry about our lives...God will take care of us if we trust Him.
< Message edited by mamagriz -- 6/16/2009 8:44:58 PM >
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