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Leslie_JnJs_mom -> Navy and homeschooled kids (6/21/2009 11:47:47 AM)

Has anyone had any experience with the Navy after home schooling their kids? My son wanted to go into the Navy at one time but was scared off by some one warning him about getting yelled at all of the time. Well he is 17 and scared about our economy so I am going to start talking to him about the navy. Like the fact he will never be homeless or not have anything to eat because he is too lazy to make himself some food. Jack always liked the navy the best since they have the best food. I am thinking of the extra time he would get to grow up while being out of the house. I have heard that the military has changed their policy and become more home school friendly but other people are saying not so.



shadowspring -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (6/21/2009 3:26:01 PM)

I would check with HSLDA. I know the Army is more home school friendly, and will accept a home school diploma as equal to any other diploma if the soldier's ASVAB scores are good.

Someone in the military now can tell you more about the ASVAB or if I even have the acronym right! LOL

It is not automatic to get into the military these days for anyone. I know a public school grad who did not score well enough on the math portion of the ASVAB to get in.

I've heard of a GED candidate who was accepted by the Marines but then had to wait several months before he was called up. He got lazy and started partying while he was aimlessly drifting, smoked some marijuana and then failed the drug test when he did finally get to report for duty.

I would check with HSLDA first before you go talk to a recruiter, because the recruiters are not always up on the latest policy or so I've heard.



creationtalk -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (6/21/2009 10:07:38 PM)

From ( http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/genjoin/a/asvabminimum.htm):

Note: Recruits (for any of the services) with at least 15 college credits fall into the Tier I enlistment education category and must score the same as high-school diploma holders, and are not subject to the accession percentages discussed above.

and

ASVAB Score - Navy recruits must score at least 35 on the AFQT. The Navy raised this requirement from 31 in 2003 for active duty accessions. Reserve enlistment programs still only require a score of 31.

From (http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyjoin/a/homeschool.htm):

At least for now, the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard are continuing to process home school graduates as Tier II education category (the same as GED), which means they restrict the number they allow to enlist each year.

The Army accepts homeschool students under a special program as Tier 1 (unrestricted)

So if your son is thinking about a career (or even a short tour) in the Navy or any other branch of the military, then I suggest he go down to the local community college and take a few classes. One semester full time (passing grades) will give him the 15 credit hours needed for enlistment without having to worry about the high school diploma.



Leslie_JnJs_mom -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (6/21/2009 10:44:06 PM)

I think that would be the way to go.



allisonbrett -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (6/25/2009 2:58:08 PM)

Some military services do not take the GED. The Marines don't or at least they didn't a few years back. Not sure about the other services. Talk to the various recruiters and find out what they will accept. Before considering a military service find out what he is most suited for. Some services offer more variety for schooling/career directions then others. Make sure what ever your son is interested in that he can use what he learns as a civilian too. Don't rule out lesser known military services such as the National Guard and Coast Guard.

Good luck!



PixieSunBelle -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (6/27/2009 12:04:22 AM)

My bf wants to join the air force but he has a GED and has attended college for about 6 years but never graduated. He received a letter kicking him out because of financial aid and dropping too many classes... would they accept him? I'm confused because mentioned above it said something about 15 college credits.



creationtalk -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (6/27/2009 4:34:01 PM)

Pixie,

The way the rules work is that there are limits on the number of GED recipients that can be accepted into any branch of the military. The number accepted in a year actually varies with the number of high school graduates accepted. Some years none are accepted, depending on the branch of the military.

15 credit hours of passing college credit indicate the ability of the person to complete what is started, and is accepted in place of the high school diploma--for recent graduates (or should have been recent graduates). I am not sure how this is applied for older applicants

However passing 15 credit hours is not all the military looks at. There are many other things that are considered. Being kicked out of college will not look good, particularly if it is in any way connected to a failure to pay for college courses or to repay loans--or if he received grants, did not maintain his hours for keeping the grants so had to repay them but did not. The military really frowns on poor financial management--it may be grounds for a discharge or he won't be accepted. The number of hours he has may also not help him if he failed more than he passed and/or he did not make progress toward a degree. 6 years of college with out graduating may be a strike against him. This is something that would need to be taken up with a recruiter.

The air force is the hardest of the services to get into, primarily because they have so many people who choose that branch of the service.

Another consideration is the ASVAB score. Scoring high on the ASVAB helps a lot.



RJR_fan -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (7/15/2009 7:53:20 AM)

I wish I had known about the Coast Guard Academy when I was in high school. This one requires no congressional appointment -- just excellence on a standardized test.

I coulda been a contendah! I could have had a military career!



sen10tious -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (7/15/2009 9:08:40 AM)

In the past six months, my son has spoken with recruiters from the Marines, Navy, and Air Force. He took ASVAB practice tests with each.

ASVAB, the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery, is easier than the SAT or ACT. Any homeschooled student with a solid knowledge of Algebra I and decent reading comprehension should not have any trouble passing it and being accepted into basic service. (To me, the practice questions looked at the level of a pre-algebra final exam.) Now, scoring high enough to be qualified for special programs and technical jobs is more competitive, they may accept you to inventory supplies, but not to be a rocket scientist. If you are desirous of joining the military, do some online research at military.com and ask the recruiter a lot of questions upfront. We found some recruiters had to keep referring to their manuals to get him the answers relating to special training and earning college degrees through the military.

Each branch of the service has their own standards for accepting recruits. The Marines will not take more than 5% new recruits who do not have a high school diploma. For them. he was told that valid Homeschool Diploma issued for home education that meets state law is equal to a public school diploma. GEDs were considered drop-out status for recruiting purposes, but a GED + 15 hours college credit = high school diploma or tier 2 admission for recruiting purposes. When he talked to the Air Force, the answer was different. They told him his Homeschool Diploma has to be reviewed by a committee that determines if it will be accepted.



Brandy -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (7/16/2009 1:00:28 AM)

There is a poster on here who Homeschooled her daughter and she is a linguist now with the Navy.. I will send her a message.



karlie -> RE: Navy and homeschooled kids (7/16/2009 1:48:10 AM)

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There is a poster on here who Homeschooled her daughter and she is a linguist now with the Navy.. I will send her a message.


That would be me :)

Our oldest daughter was homeschooled from elementary on through high school and joined the Navy just after graduation. We had no problem with her getting in with her ASVAB scores and diploma. She then took the DLAB for foreign languages and got the exact designation she wanted.

The Navy does not recognize a GED as a valid diploma, or at least they did not when our daughter joined. They actually consider that drop-out status, and they do not accept drop outs int the Navy, or at least did not when she joined 7 years ago. The woman I spoke to from the education department in DC said they don't need to...they have so many qualified people wanting in that they stopped accepting drop outs many years ago. As far as I know, that has not changed.

Our daughter had both the GED(I thought it would look good to have her take the test), and a diploma from our homeschool. I assumed they would want the GED since it is a state test, but they wanted nothing to do with it and called it "useless". But, her simple homeschool diploma and her transcripts were what they wanted. Also, if your child has completed all four years of high school in an accelerated fashion, such as in three years instead of four, make sure you break it up and show her credits spread across four years. Attending only three years of high school is considered incomplete to them, no matter how many units they have. They want to see the commitment of the full four years staying in school and don't want to see any "short cuts" unless they graduated early to begin college a little earlier.

Anyway, that was our experience with homeschooled student and the Navy. They were actually great to work with. Hope that info helps :)



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