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British literature - 6/21/2009 11:05:43 PM   
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I am going to be teaching Stogaugh's British Literature course to TL next year and want to keep up with her reading. Of course she will have a lot more time to read than I will, so I'm starting now and hope to have at least ten read by the time we start school in the fall.

I posted in the chat thread, but didn't want to have a conversation about this in another thread. It's less confusing this way.

I'm going to quote the posts from the chat thread to make this thread more clear.

I am working on a list of ten for the summer. I’m also reading all the selections in TL’s student books, which includes poetry. I’m not writing the essays though!

The first ten, which I hope to have done by September are:

Beowulf
The Ecclesiastical History of the English People, by Venerable Bede
“The Pardoner’s Tale” and “The Nun’s Priest’s Tale,” by Chaucer
Sir Gawain and The Green Knight
The Faerie Queene, by Edmund Spencer
Macbeth, Shakespeare
Dr. Faustus, by Christopher Marlowe
“Holy Sonnet XIV,” by John Donne
“Silex,” by Henry Vaughan

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RE: British literature - 6/21/2009 11:13:15 PM   
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Cynthia,

I think I have all these selections in my Elements of British Literature Sixth Course by Holt Rinehart Wilson 1993 edition. Any chance you could find one of those on amazon.com or at your public school book give-away?

They have seven selection for John Donne in that textbook, but not Holy Sonnet XIV, though a good poetry book from the library should have it. You might even find it online somewhere. And also the only selection by Henry Vaughan is The Retreat.

I love teaching out of this textbook and have used it once already for a course in Brit Lit and have used it as a reference and for author's bios just in general. One of my good friend had a hand in putting it together, and she gave me my copy. I will treasure it always.

That’s great, Shadowspring. This does look interesting, but I already have the Stogaugh tm and student text, so I’m going with that.

Stobaugh included some of the poems in the student text, but there is still quite a bit of literature that is necessary, but not included. I have most of it, but there are still a few left. I found a lot of the poetry on-line and put it on my thumb drive, but some of it is too long to print off. Silex is too long. I think I may have found Holy Sonnet XIV, by John Donne at the library, but I’m not sure if that selection is in the book. The library description didn’t say if it is or not, so I ordered it and will look inside to see. If not, I’ll have to purchase that too.

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RE: British literature - 6/21/2009 11:54:07 PM   
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Cynthia, I will be sending Ds to this thread often. I never had enough patience to translate British lit into plain American!
I think it had to do with not reading KJV as a child. Ds loves British lit and doesn't sweem to have a problem reading it.

BTW, Is this what you are looking for?
quote:

HOLY SONNETS.

XIV.


Batter my heart, three-person'd God ; for you
As yet but knock ; breathe, shine, and seek to mend ;
That I may rise, and stand, o'erthrow me, and bend
Your force, to break, blow, burn, and make me new.
I, like an usurp'd town, to another due,
Labour to admit you, but O, to no end....

http://www.luminarium.org/sevenlit/donne/sonnet14.php
You might be able to find books on the Project Gutenberg
website.

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RE: British literature - 6/22/2009 12:36:15 AM   
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I'll have to check that link tomorrow, Judy. Thanks.

There are some books available to help with understanding British Lit. I love the ones that have for Shakespeare. The old language is on one the left page and the modern language is on the right page. It's great. I also purchased a book by The Perfection Learning Parallel Text Series. (Perfection Learning Corporation) This one is British Literature 449-1798. I love parallel text.

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RE: British literature - 6/22/2009 2:00:22 PM   
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I used Stobaughs's Literary Criticism last year. Good stuff.

We had so much fun doing Brit Lit back when Angelica and Michael were here. It was a blast. I wish you as good a time with it as we had.

I think when it comes time to teach it to dear son, I will advertise and get more students because that does make it better. I suppose I should charge something so people will actually keep showing up for the whole course. Free home school stuff is always welcomed at first and quickly abandoned around here.

One thing we did to help with the Canterbury Tales was to draw pictures of the characters and write down defining words and descriptions and what assumptions we made about the people based on that. It was the only time I ever enjoyed the Canterbury Tales. I thought it was dreadful stuff when I was in high school.

All the rest was fun though.

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RE: British literature - 6/22/2009 2:09:06 PM   
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You are right that if you don't charge people don't take it seriously enough. I would like to do a class, but could not fit that in next year. Maybe in the future I will be prepared to do that with one or both of my other children.

I think this is going to be fun and interesting.

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RE: British literature - 6/22/2009 2:57:07 PM   
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I was wrong about needing Holy Sonnets. I got the authors mixed up. What I was really looking for was John Dryden's "An Essay of Dramatic Poesy," which I found on-line and in a library book. If it's not available at the library when I need it, I can print out a copy from the internet. It is not copywrited since it's hundreds of years old.

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RE: British literature - 6/24/2009 2:27:48 AM   
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Love the Stobaugh lit stuff. My two oldest kids went through his British, American and World lit as well as his rhetoric course. It was great prep for college and just for understanding the worldview of an author. They also went to worldview academy one summer, so they had that help as well. My son has only gone through the rhetoric and American lit so far.

BTW, I did not do all of the lessons because there were some other things I wanted my kids to read, and it was going to take too much time to get it all in. Also, I had my girls do British lit before American lit. The prose in the British lit course was much more difficult, and this made the American lit prose pretty easy. As for my son, he's had to work up to the British prose. If I had started him on that, he would have bogged down. I love that I can tailor like this.

Oh, and when my girls were going through the curriculum, I spent every summer reading and rereading quite a few books.

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RE: British literature - 6/24/2009 10:28:35 AM   
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Around week 32, the student is scheduled to read the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy. If she is to get anything else done, she will have to have already read them before that time, so she is starting on them now. A friend of hers is currently reading them for the fun of it, so this will be good for her to read and discuss them with her friend. She and her friends often read the same books (outside of required reading) and discuss them.

TL has read several of the books that are in the program, so it shouldn't be difficult for her to get through this course, plus I believe she is going to love much of the literature. She will be taking the bus home from her vocational class and that will give her reading time as well.

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RE: British literature - 6/24/2009 10:00:34 PM   
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If you have an avid reader on your hands, then this program is perfect. My second child typically reads about 3-4 books a week. So this course was a snap for her. My oldest child reads about 3-4 books a month. It was a little more challenging for her. My son is doing well to read a book a month, so we will not be doing all of the lessons as they're designed.

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