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cynthia -> History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 10:44:45 AM)
For those of you who have covered high school history, did you cover geography along with history? That is how I’ve always done it, but now I have Notgrass World History and it doesn’t appear to have any map work. I don’t think a person can make the connection properly without seeing a map and understanding where the events described happened. How did you handle the geography aspect of history?

W.O.F. -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 11:46:18 AM)
We incorporate geography into the Social studies/history part of our studies. For example...when studying WWI and WWII....we covered all of Europe's geography as it was at that time....with notes on how it has changed...then when we got to current events...they "knew" about where current country lines are and made sense while studying the why's. When studying western expansion...covered North, Central, and south america. However...a LOT of my kids geography was actually covered in their elementary and Jr. high level studies...so at the high school level...was mostly review. This is helpful since you also have to cover Civics and Economics as well as US (or Canadian )history and World History....

cynthia -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 11:57:24 AM)
Was it included in your history program? In Mystery of History, each lesson has a map that goes with it and there is a map assignment. Was this the case with your history program or did you make up your own map assignment? I guess I'm going to have to add my own map assignments since there are none already prepared to go along with it. I really would rather not do that. I'm wondering if there is any kind of program that one could use to go along with world history and next year I'll need one for American history as well. I don't want an extensive program, just something to use along with history. ETA: My problem is that I expected this to be included with the history program, but it's not. That seems odd to me. I was just looking at "Uncle Josh's Outline Map Collection," and figure I will purchase that and use those maps along the way.

shadowspring -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 2:10:04 PM)
We always had the globe out as we did history. That was wholly adequate for younger grades. I also bought The Ultimate Geography and Timeline Guide at a convention. Though I haven't used the book itself much, we do make time lines along with history. We use posters for each decade and draw, write, cut and paste (the old-fashioned way) the important people, discoveries, inventions and events. We originally had one color for writing about Asia, one for Africa, and then different colors for the US, Great Britain and France. But then as we went farther along in history, we needed more and more colors for more countries and we finally gave up on that system. Now we just label each person/event with a location.

cynthia -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 2:13:28 PM)
Good idea to have the globe out. I'll have to think about where I can move mine to. We have it up on top of a cabinet and move it down when we need it. It would be easier to have it lower and more accessible. The kids would probably use it more frequently that way.

shadowspring -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 2:14:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cynthia I was just looking at "Uncle Josh's Outline Map Collection," and figure I will purchase that and use those maps along the way. I was about to suggest outline maps with Vis-a-vis markers if you don't want to make your own. However drawing your own maps is a wonderful learning experience as well! And poster board is cheap and readily available. Google images always brings up lots of maps to choose from if you are happy with something that will fit on an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper. Last year I would have Garrett print out a map, then hold it up to the window and trace the outline on his own sheet of blank copy paper. Then he had to add major geographical features, the capital and color the oceans blue and label them, and color bordering countries and label them. But that was actually to go along with his spelling words.[8D] For history we looked at the globe and made the timeline posters.

cynthia -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 2:16:54 PM)
Oh! Great idea about putting it up to the window.

judii1 -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 3:00:35 PM)
I have seen places online where you could print out maps. Going to look for them now. Here is a link to print out maps from National Geographic. We used Old World History and Geography from Abeka. Ds also used the 9th grade World Geography book last year.

his_chosen -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 3:40:27 PM)
We did BJUP Geography first semester, then History second. However... most of the kids knowledge about geography has come from their interest in WWII.

W.O.F. -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 4:00:53 PM)
It was partially included in our material...but some of it was stuff I made them do.... I used the globe...we had two (before the older one died) and that helped. The older one was from when I was in 6th grade (and I am 40)..and the newer one was from a couple of years ago...so they were able to track some of the differences. I also had them trace maps out of some resource books that we have...and they had to color them and label major cities , and then add cities/battlezones on the map as they studied them.

cynthia -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/22/2009 4:05:57 PM)
I have a confession to make. I do not like getting maps from on-line. I want to be able to put a cd in and print off exactly what I want. Due to this factor I have the cd for MOH I and MOH III and tore apart the book for MOH II to have easy access to the maps. I also own Knowledge Quest Maps for American and World History. We also have quite a few atlases. And I am still considering buy the Uncle Josh's map cd, but am wondering if I have what I need already. Man, I get so neurotic about this stuff. Maybe I should have just posted a prayer request. [8\|]

judii1 -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/24/2009 7:29:17 AM)
quote: used the globe...we had two (before the older one died) One of our globes became 2 hemispheres, what happened to yours?[:D] Ds has always wanted one of the globes that you see in furniture stores. It stands about 3 feet tall and turns inside a wooden stand. Something like this.

shadowspring -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/24/2009 2:15:21 PM)
That is one fancy-shmancy globe! Our globe has the USSR. LOL We use it in conjunction with our Atlas. I like to talk about how nothing is forever and the fall of the USSR when I get a chance. [:)]

W.O.F. -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/24/2009 2:16:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: judii1 quote: used the globe...we had two (before the older one died) One of our globes became 2 hemispheres, what happened to yours?[:D] Ds has always wanted one of the globes that you see in furniture stores. It stands about 3 feet tall and turns inside a wooden stand. Something like this. it first became two hemispheres (which I taped back together) and then began peeling.....first the ocean fell off...then some of the countries....lol..but I faithfully taped or glued them back on...then...the stand died and it became a ball that rolled loose around the house. Needless to say...the world truly is flat (at least that one was after moving to a new house......) keep in mind..this thing was over 20 years old when that started happening..... I keep my eyes open for old globes at yard sales....it's kind of neat to compare the world "then" to the world "now" I am with your son....I want one of those globes! My aunt used to have one....but her house got flooded and it got destroyed.......(hmm...I thought the world wasn't supposed to be destroyed by flood again...I guess the rainbow doesn't cover globes?[:D])

cynthia -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/24/2009 10:31:23 PM)
Now that I've gotten over the shock that there is no map work in Notgrass World History, I am beginning to get concerned about whether this course covers everything it needs too. It is advertised as a history, Bible and literature credit. I have not read through the curriculum yet, but am reading through the unit questions and am becoming very concerned. I do not recall seeing any questions on the Magna Carta. There are tons of Bible questions, but rather than being included along the way, in addition to the history questions, they seem to be instead of the history questions. I also didn't see anything about Shakespeare or Queen Elizabeth I. The focus of the curriculum so far seems to be Christian doctrine. It's like a Bible study with some history thrown in. I'll have to finish the questions book and then start reading the curriculum, but I'm getting nervous.

W.O.F. -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/25/2009 2:20:42 PM)
hopefully the curriculum itself covers the material properly! The curriculum use is very conservative Christian..but they teach history and then have the students evaluate the facts of history through scripture and how was it handled "correctly" according to scripture and how might they have better handled it in light of scripture. A unique take on it...but they learn history, and how to evaluate their world through the Bible.

allisonbrett -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/25/2009 2:45:38 PM)
I've not done high school history/geography but I have middle school. Since I am a very visual person so I have to have maps. I have a large US map and World maps on the wall in my office where my dd does her school work. My husband has also found it interesting to locate various places. Even when we don't need the maps they are still there for interest. We look up time zones, dream vacations as well as historical locations.

cynthia -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/25/2009 2:59:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: W.O.F. hopefully the curriculum itself covers the material properly! The curriculum use is very conservative Christian..but they teach history and then have the students evaluate the facts of history through scripture and how was it handled "correctly" according to scripture and how might they have better handled it in light of scripture. A unique take on it...but they learn history, and how to evaluate their world through the Bible. I don't know if it does or not. I think what I need to do is to look at the CLEP guide and compare it to see if there are issues we need to cover that are not in Notgrass World History. The new one will not be released until August. This is supposed to be an indepth study and I thought we would be able to do the CLEP after this is complete. At this point I am having serious doubts on that. I am fine with using a biblical basis for evaluation. That is what the foundation of the education of my children is based on, but that should make for a better education, not a lesser one. I expected the Bible to be an addition, not in place of basic historical facts. The problems right now is that I don't know what the main points are that ought to be covered in every curriculum, so I am not sure if this meets those requirements or not.

cynthia -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (6/26/2009 1:08:17 PM)
I went through the Notgrass books and found some of the things I was concerned were missing. I am planning to go through them much more carefully to determine exactly how I am going to schedule this program. For one thing, I am going to remove the Bible study portion from the history schedule and use it for the Bible study portion of our regular schedule. It will interrupt her regular Bible study, but that should be fine. This is going to be a lot more trouble than I was expecting, but once it's done I can use this schedule for the next two coming up. The first time is always the most difficult.

cynthia -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (8/11/2009 1:34:51 PM)
I have completely ditched Notgrass. It was not what I wanted and it was stressing me out to try to tweak it to meet our needs. We are going with Streams of Civilization instead. I already had volume 2 and (for those of you who remember her) Nailmom had volume 1, which she gave to me. (bless her) I had to purchase the test booklets for both and since I'm now in a hurry I got expedited shipping. All in all it cost around $20 to switch programs and now I am happy.

sen10tious -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (8/11/2009 4:06:42 PM)
Not meaning to complicate things, and my kids are past this, but I found a newer curriculum for geography that stresses critical thinking skills and it looks like what I was looking for six years ago... It is the *I Think!* series from Inspired Educators. Home http://www.inspirededucators.com/index.html Geography sample http://www.inspirededucators.com/pdfs/U%20S%20%20Geography%20Sample.pdf One really cool thing about it is that the assessments at the end have different skill levels. You can use the material at a beginner, regular, or advanced level. Almost every lesson asks the student to draw a conclusion, so it is a little like the written workbook version of the Beechick/Mason method of having the student put ideas into their own words. I ended up teaching geography as a separate course with my youngest because we had used Streams of Civilization for middle school; which I found to have the minimum acceptable geography included; and then his high school history was largely what Charlotte Mason called living books, so he really needed geography added. They have history too, but I haven't had a chance to look into that as much.

cynthia -> RE: History and Georgraphy for High School (8/11/2009 4:18:51 PM)
The child I am doing the Streams of Civilization with needs a history course and it has to include geography, so I am currently working on geography lessons to add in. I just finished up the lesson plan for the chapter 2 map. Thanks sen10tious. The course you mentioned does sound interesting. It doesn't complicate things for me, since I'm now happily set in my plan, but there are other people reading this that might find the information helpful in their research and planning.

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