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What is a 'memorial offering' ? - 6/25/2009 1:39:20 AM
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IamLibertarian
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This is a 2 part question, first in bold, second in italics
What is a 'memorial offering' before God?
Please read below for context.
Acts 10
1At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. 2He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. 3One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, "Cornelius!"
4Cornelius stared at him in fear. "What is it, Lord?" he asked.
The angel answered, "Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. 5Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. 6He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea."
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RE: What is a 'memorial offering' ? - 6/25/2009 9:41:53 AM
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ORIGINAL: tuckonline
This is a 2 part question, first in bold, second in italics
What is a 'memorial offering' before God?
Please read below for context.
Acts 10
1At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. 2He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. 3One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, "Cornelius!"
4Cornelius stared at him in fear. "What is it, Lord?" he asked.
The angel answered, "Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. 5Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. 6He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea."
The Greek text here literally says "memorial" rather than "memorial offering"; however, the term was used to signify the portion of an offering that was burnt up (i.e. ascended to God in smoke). Scholars disagree whether this particular reference has any connection with that "memorial offering" or is simply an indication that God had remembered Cornelius' prayers. Additionally, it should be noted that the idea of "proclamation" was often associated with "remembering" i.e. remembering the acts of God carried with it the idea of proclaiming the account of those acts to others.
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RE: What is a 'memorial offering' ? - 6/25/2009 12:22:28 PM
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Romans 9:20-'It’s selfish to assume life experience will proceed in our limited imagination 21 for a creator molds vessels designed for a specific use. 22 Some are designed to show even the Glory of God, some to be used and used up, to illuminate and make His Glory known in endurance with patience in wrath prepared for destruction. 23 He does so and makes the riches of His Glory vessels of His obedience which He prepared in advance for that very purpose.'
Whether a 'memorial offering' is worship, service or vulnerability all are results of our obedience to Him.
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RE: What is a 'memorial offering' ? - 6/25/2009 1:46:59 PM
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Bluethread
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quote:
ORIGINAL: tuckonline
This is a 2 part question, first in bold, second in italics
What is a 'memorial offering' before God?
Please read below for context.
Acts 10
1At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. 2He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. 3One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, "Cornelius!"
4Cornelius stared at him in fear. "What is it, Lord?" he asked.
The angel answered, "Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. 5Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. 6He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea."
It is good your are noticing these things and inquiring about them. Adonai does not provide the Scriptures just to make us feel comfortable in whatever culture we find ourselves or so that someone else hundreds of years later can look at stories of how we lived and draw some symbolic leason for their lives. There are good practical reasons for the things Adonai has us do.
The term used is simply memorial. However, at least some translators recognize that, even though this man was a gentile, he was familiar with Adonai's ways. Adonai does not forget. However, we are prone to question Him(some ten times in the wilderness). Therefore, Adonai gave us a procedure through which we could be assured that Adonai would remember. This is the memorial portion of the offering. Offerings for the maintainance of the temple, the poor and shared meals are not enough to assure we get the message that Adonai is Holy. That is why a portion of the offering "went up in smoke". It may appear "merely ceremonial" to some. However, without it we forget.
Now applying this to the prayers of Cornelius, Adonai is saying that prayers serve a similar purpose, if we do them. The point being that if the "unchurched" are sending up prayers to Adonai along with providing for the poor, they will be accepted. Repeatedly, we are told that Adonai did not accept our offerings. This is because we did not pay attention to all parts of those offerings. Yes, if we do not provide for the poor or maintain community standards that is not acceptable. However, those who only give to the poor, support the "building fund" and attend the "pot lucks" are not making sacrifices that are acceptable to Adonai either. We need to be providing the "memorial" protion of the sacrifice also.
< Message edited by Bluethread -- 6/25/2009 1:53:52 PM >
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RE: What is a 'memorial offering' ? - 6/26/2009 4:46:36 AM
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IamLibertarian
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Thank you all for responding to my post =) It was all very helpful to me!
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RE: What is a 'memorial offering' ? - 6/26/2009 9:26:42 AM
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I liked the responses as well.
But I would add there is confusion in this passage
because it's been a very good "Fund Raiser" for the
WOF crowds. (Which means whatever they say it
means is taken out of context.)
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