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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/28/2009 11:36:48 PM
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I don't get threads like this.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/29/2009 2:09:20 PM
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They have in the past.... If the murder of the unborn can he justified in the name of God so can porn... Like Hue Hefner said, Jesus would approve since like me, He's all about love...
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/29/2009 8:09:59 PM
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I'm actually a bit curious - does anyone have any arguments for why porn would be acceptable to God?
What about the unattractive guy in the wheelchair who's never been with a women but has the same desires like the average guy?
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/29/2009 8:12:42 PM
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Does God frown upon Porn?
Absolutely!
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rcjames,
Have you ever viewed a Horror film? Have you ever viewed a movie with gratuitous violence?
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/29/2009 8:22:12 PM
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I'm actually a bit curious - does anyone have any arguments for why porn would be acceptable to God?
What about the unattractive guy in the wheelchair who's never been with a women but has the same desires like the average guy?
So God give exceptions to sin because some guy is sad?
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/29/2009 9:51:34 PM
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I'm actually a bit curious - does anyone have any arguments for why porn would be acceptable to God?
What about the unattractive guy in the wheelchair who's never been with a women but has the same desires like the average guy?
How about sin is sin regardless of whether you are in a wheelchair or you have two healthy legs? It would be laughable to try to argue porn does not stir lust. If you are unfamiliar with the scriptures dealing with lust I can give a few. Not only that, but you are supporting the fornication and/or adultery of others.
The average guy, if he is a born again child of God, ceased to be the average guy at conversion. He now has all the tools at his disposal to walk in the Spirit and not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. He has the power to no longer be a slave to sin.
Whether a guy is in a wheelchair or has never been with a woman has no bearing on anything.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/30/2009 11:52:59 AM
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What about the unattractive guy in the wheelchair who's never been with a women but has the same desires like the average guy?
What about him?
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/30/2009 2:49:39 PM
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Does God frown upon Porn?
Absolutely!
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RC
rcjames,
Have you ever viewed a Horror film? Have you ever viewed a movie with gratuitous violence?
I don't do horror films, but I have seen some with some mafor violence (sorry but I don't know what "Gratuitous" violence is).
The worst violent film I have ever viewed was Mel Gibson's "The Passion of Christ".
Thanks
RC
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/30/2009 2:50:47 PM
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What about the unattractive guy in the wheelchair who's never been with a women but has the same desires like the average guy?
What about him?
If he lusts; it is a sin.
Thanks
RC
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/30/2009 7:10:27 PM
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What about the unattractive guy in the wheelchair who's never been with a women but has the same desires like the average guy?
What about him?
If he lusts; it is a sin.
Thanks
RC
Is it okay to lust after your wife?
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/30/2009 7:12:55 PM
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Does God frown upon Porn?
Absolutely!
Thanks
RC
rcjames,
Have you ever viewed a Horror film? Have you ever viewed a movie with gratuitous violence?
I don't do horror films, but I have seen some with some mafor violence (sorry but I don't know what "Gratuitous" violence is).
The worst violent film I have ever viewed was Mel Gibson's "The Passion of Christ".
Thanks
RC
RC,
Does God frown upon excess violence on tv or in the movies? I'm speaking of violence that is intended to provide shock value - and not violence that depicts historical events such as the Passion.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/30/2009 7:19:06 PM
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rcjames
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RC,
Does God frown upon excess violence on tv or in the movies? I'm speaking of violence that is intended to provide shock value - and not violence that depicts historical events such as the Passion.
I really do not know what your definition of "Excess" violence is.
And honestly I am not familiar with depicted violence that is intended to provide shock value.
Are you talking about junk like the chainsaw movies and such?
Thanks
RC
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/30/2009 9:33:05 PM
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Job 31 is a good one.
"I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a girl."
Also Hebrews 13:4
"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral."
The Bible doesn't specifically mention porn of course, but there are principles that certainly apply. I would urge those of you who have approached this subject in a less than direct manner to do so now. Perhaps you know what the verses are that address porn, but the one who posted the thread may not. Posting in a "good grief, you should know this" manner helps no one. Pornography is a cancer that can take hold in anyone if they allow it ... I know from personal experience. Let's provide some good Scripture while we are given this opportunity. Here is one that encourages me in any temptation:
1 Corinthians 10:13
"No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, He will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it."
Anyone who wishes to discuss the subject one on one, feel free to send me a private message.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/30/2009 10:58:49 PM
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Job 31 is a good one.
"I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a girl."
Also Hebrews 13:4
"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral."
The Bible doesn't specifically mention porn of course, but there are principles that certainly apply. I would urge those of you who have approached this subject in a less than direct manner to do so now. Perhaps you know what the verses are that address porn, but the one who posted the thread may not. Posting in a "good grief, you should know this" manner helps no one. Pornography is a cancer that can take hold in anyone if they allow it ... I know from personal experience. Let's provide some good Scripture while we are given this opportunity. Here is one that encourages me in any temptation:
1 Corinthians 10:13
"No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, He will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it."
Anyone who wishes to discuss the subject one on one, feel free to send me a private message.
The word from which we derive "pornography" comes from the Greek porneia, which encompasses all kinds of sexual immorality. It is translated "fornication" 26 times in the KJV, which leads to some confusion as fornication has changed meanings slightly since the KJV was translated.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 6/30/2009 11:48:15 PM
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Hello,
Yes God frowns upon pornagraphy and this interview is interesting to hear. Larry Keffer is trying to explain to this other man what the Lord Jesus is all about and it doesn't involve pornagraphy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4b7HOJfBVA
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 7/1/2009 12:30:39 AM
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Is it okay to lust after your wife?
I've never met anyone whose spouse was active in the pornography industry in an "acting" capacity. Have you?
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 7/1/2009 12:32:50 AM
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Bro_Shane
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What about the unattractive guy in the wheelchair who's never been with a women but has the same desires like the average guy?
What about him?
If he lusts; it is a sin.
Thanks
RC
Is it okay to lust after your wife?
Lust is a sin. A married man desires his wife.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 7/1/2009 1:54:13 AM
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Does God frown upon excess violence on tv or in the movies? I'm speaking of violence that is intended to provide shock value - and not violence that depicts historical events such as the Passion.
This is off topic to the thread. Move on please.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 7/2/2009 7:26:35 PM
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Is it okay to lust after your wife?
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Lust is a sin. A married man desires his wife.
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If you could, go ahead please and differentiate between the 2 in practical terms without being to graphic.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 7/2/2009 7:29:28 PM
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my_back_hurts
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ORIGINAL: Nate79
Job 31 is a good one.
"I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a girl."
Also Hebrews 13:4
"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral."
The Bible doesn't specifically mention porn of course, but there are principles that certainly apply. I would urge those of you who have approached this subject in a less than direct manner to do so now. Perhaps you know what the verses are that address porn, but the one who posted the thread may not. Posting in a "good grief, you should know this" manner helps no one. Pornography is a cancer that can take hold in anyone if they allow it ... I know from personal experience. Let's provide some good Scripture while we are given this opportunity. Here is one that encourages me in any temptation:
1 Corinthians 10:13
"No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, He will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it."
Anyone who wishes to discuss the subject one on one, feel free to send me a private message.
Thanks, Nate79.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 7/2/2009 7:34:35 PM
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RC,
Does God frown upon excess violence on tv or in the movies? I'm speaking of violence that is intended to provide shock value - and not violence that depicts historical events such as the Passion.
I really do not know what your definition of "Excess" violence is.
And honestly I am not familiar with depicted violence that is intended to provide shock value.
Are you talking about junk like the chainsaw movies and such?
Thanks
RC
Ya, like those chainsaw movies.
I personally find those kinds of movies more of a sin to view, compared to porn. Yet, chainsaw movies are more readily accepted.
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RE: Does God frown upon Porn? - 7/2/2009 10:05:32 PM
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If you could, go ahead please and differentiate between the 2 in practical terms without being to graphic.
Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
The word translated "lust" is epithymeō in the Greek. It is also translated as "desire" eight times. So, if the same word is used for both we must look to the context to give us the exact meaning. In using the term as it relates to feelings of a sexual nature, we must look at the object of epithymeō (which is a verb, by the way).
If the object is your own spouse, then there is no scriptural condemnation of such feelings. In fact, the Song of Songs (Song of Solomon) is quite explicit about such desire. When the object is a person with whom there is no marriage covenant, or in a marriage covenant with another, then the action of epithymeō is a sin. It is actually the status of the object that defines the nature of epithymeō, and is also heavily dependent on the covenant relationship of the one desiring and the one desired.
Murder is a sin, but in horror movies people aren't actually being murdered. In porn people are really fornicating. When you buy or pay to watch it you are taking part in their sin:
I Timothy 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.
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