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my_back_hurts -> Does God frown upon Porn? (6/25/2009 7:57:36 PM)

If this has been discussed elsewhere, please delete this and give direction on the thread.

Otherwise - please respond with scripture and interpretation of scripture. Thanks.



Jhud -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/25/2009 8:06:31 PM)

Well, He thinks those that lust in their hearts are guilty of the fires of hell; I suppose that means He ain't smilin' on it.



my_back_hurts -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/25/2009 8:16:32 PM)

Thanks for the response Jhud.

Can you support that with scripture? Sorry if you interpreted my question as silly or a no-brainer.



ta_mosquito -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/25/2009 8:47:09 PM)

HERE is a good start.



Jhud -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/26/2009 9:39:49 AM)

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Thanks for the response Jhud.

Can you support that with scripture? Sorry if you interpreted my question as silly or a no-brainer.


I made a reference to Scripture, it's in Matthew 5.

I am sorry if I sounded dismissive, I didn't mean to be. But I do have to say that sometimes it is helpful if believers just go to the Word, ask God to give them wisdom, and read, rather than come here, throw out a topic and have a bunch of people react to it. There are lots of Scriptures starting with Genesis and it's description of the inception of marriage that tell us that pornography is wrong; all it takes is for a humble heart to go read them.



FlamingFantods -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/26/2009 9:49:22 AM)

Lust, by the way, is described by John M Frame as fantasizing about taking what you're not supposed to have. Doug Wilson answers your question better than I could in the first chapter of "Fidelity" here on googlebooks. Here's one of the verses he quotes:

"Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with the things you have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." --Hebrews 13:4-5.

So all those verses about lust don't mean that sex is bad--it's an enormous greed and discontent that's bad. I gather that porn stars act and look nothing like real women, so not only are you driven to watch them out of discontent, you're priming yourself for a life of discontent with your wife.



Jhud -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/26/2009 10:22:24 AM)

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So all those verses about lust don't mean that sex is bad--it's an enormous greed and discontent that's bad. I gather that porn stars act and look nothing like real women, so not only are you driven to watch them out of discontent, you're priming yourself for a life of discontent with your wife.


Excellent point.

Also, a woman in the porn industry is someone's daughter, sister, possibly mother, and they are being subjugated to the worst of degradations; one's participation in that through viewing it furthers this degradation, and at the very least contradicts Christ's baseline command to, "Do unto others as we would have them do unto us".



rcjames -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/26/2009 10:26:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jhud

Well, He thinks those that lust in their hearts are guilty of the fires of hell; I suppose that means He ain't smilin' on it.


Ditto.

Thanks
RC



saraimay75 -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/27/2009 3:05:25 PM)

I never watched porn and I have no scripture. However from what I have heard about porn is it degrades human beings. It turn then into sex objects. If this not something to make God frown then I don't what is.



makarizo -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/27/2009 3:45:02 PM)

I heard a preacher say this:
picture your daughter in the porn industry, does that make you smile, why do you think God would be okay with that?



a_sparrow -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/27/2009 3:50:28 PM)

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Also, a woman in the porn industry is someone's daughter, sister, possibly mother, and they are being subjugated to the worst of degradations; one's participation in that through viewing it furthers this degradation, and at the very least contradicts Christ's baseline command to, "Do unto others as we would have them do unto us".


Yup. It is unloving to the people who create the porn. In addition to sinning sexually him/herself, the porn consumer encourages others to commit sexually immorality by paying them to do it. Those people are without exception harmed morally, often I am sure are harmed emotionally, and are sometimes harmed physically. The STD rate among among porn "actors" is high, and there have been recent reports of actor-to-actor HIV transmission during filming.

Edited for clarification.



FlamingFantods -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/27/2009 5:24:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: a_sparrow
Yup. It is unloving to the people who create the porn. In addition to sinning sexually him/herself, the porn consumer encourages others to commit sexually immorality by paying them to do it. Those people are without exception harmed morally, often I am sure are harmed emotionally, and are sometimes harmed physically. The STD rate among among porn "actors" is high, and there have been recent reports of HIV transmission through porn.


You know that with that argument, you'd pretty much have to give up industrially produced meat? I'm with you, though. We're not supposed to delegate abuse no matter how many other people are doing it.



ta_mosquito -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/27/2009 5:31:17 PM)

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You know that with that argument, you'd pretty much have to give up industrially produced meat?

Huh??



LCannon -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/27/2009 9:43:33 PM)

Romans 6:6-'Some say since the price is paid the redeemed has license to indulge our vanities. 2 Give me a break! Obedience and license can’t be accomplished in the same soul. 3 We’re identified by our baptism, either into Christ Jesus in His death and Victory or remain in our baptism to indulge in vanity. 4 In the former case, we have been buried through His baptism and raised with Him into the glory of the Father so we too might be obedient stewards of His Victory. 5 For, if we have become united in identification in His obedience certainly we shall be alike in His Victory.



FlamingFantods -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 4:44:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ta_mosquito
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You know that with that argument, you'd pretty much have to give up industrially produced meat?

Huh??


It's paying other people to treat animals as poorly as they can without killing them and losing money. Animals in industrial farms have a horrible time of it. "A righteous man regards the life of his animal, but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel." (Prov. 12:10.)



rcjames -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 4:49:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FlamingFantods
Animals in industrial farms have a horrible time of it.


That would be your opinion; Have you ever visited visited a farm where animals are raised for food"

Thanks
RC



a_sparrow -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 5:00:17 PM)

I also don't agree that mistreating animals is as bad as mistreating people. Not that I would defend the former, but there is a hierarchy, and humans are higher.



ta_mosquito -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 5:09:11 PM)

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rcjames -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 5:54:58 PM)

Does God frown upon Porn?

Absolutely!

Thanks
RC



rawr.ben -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 6:26:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rcjames

Does God frown upon Porn?

Absolutely!

Thanks
RC


The End.



MrFribbles -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 6:39:07 PM)

I'm actually a bit curious - does anyone have any arguments for why porn would be acceptable to God?



rcjames -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 8:34:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrFribbles

I'm actually a bit curious - does anyone have any arguments for why porn would be acceptable to God?


I certainly hope not.

Thanks
RC



supernova1976 -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 9:05:39 PM)

I would think the answer to this is post is a no brainer. Of course he is not ok with porn.



let_your_light_shine -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 9:52:05 PM)

I'll have to look for exact scripture but it does say in the bible not to lust and that lusting alone, is considered adultery. And one of the commandments is do not commit adultery. You shouldn't be tempting yourself with porn.



deborlie -> RE: Does God frown upon Porn? (6/28/2009 10:20:25 PM)

Eph. 2 10 For we are His workmanship (work of art).
created in Christ Jesus for good works,
WHICH GOD PREPARED BEFOREHAND that we should walk in them.

Porno is not art no matter what the users like to say.
Porn is selfish and abusive in every sense of the word. Self gratification. At the expense of others, someone has to perform for your eyes. If you know your bible you know what adultery is and you are sanctioning it, participating in it. Scripture not needed for the effects it has on families. Open your newspaper. No good can come from it. Tell Satan where to go!

Ta_mosquito gives you a list of verses on God's opinion of lust.

Phil. 2:3 Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit,
but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself.

Meditate on these things:
Phil 4:8 Finally, brethren,
whatever things are true,
whatever things are noble,
whatever things are just,
whatever things are pure,
whatever things are lovely,
whatever things are of good report,
if thee is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy
--meditate on these things.

The last commandment, "Thou shall not covet."

bj



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