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sunshine1974 -> Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (6/27/2009 1:25:06 AM)

'Ark of the Covenant' about to be unveiled?

The patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia says he will announce to the world Friday the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant, perhaps the world's most prized archaeological and spiritual artifact, which he says has been hidden away in a church in his country for millennia, according to the Italian news agency Adnkronos.

Abuna Pauolos, in Italy for a meeting with Pope Benedict XVI this week, told the news agency, "Soon the world will be able to admire the Ark of the Covenant described in the Bible as the container of the tablets of the law that God delivered to Moses and the center of searches and studies for centuries."

The announcement is expected to be made at 2 p.m. Italian time from the Hotel Aldrovandi in Rome. Pauolos will reportedly be accompanied by Prince Aklile Berhan Makonnen Haile Sellassie and Duke Amedeo D'Acosta World Net Daily

Wondering, If something like that were brought forth, great public adoration of it would take place like the Shroud of Turin spectacle. Many over time have sought Noah's Ark, and just how would that change the hearts of man?

But with Israel, there is some possibility that if a new temple is built, an Ark of the Covenant would certainly draw Israel back into their worship quickly. Their tribes would be numbered and sorted by banner again according to their marching order, and Levites would miraculously appear from all four sides of the earth to perform the sacrifices. Satan would then make a covenant with them 1290 days prior to the middle of the tribulation, and off to the races they would be. Something to think about.



sunshine1974 -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (6/27/2009 1:42:09 AM)

Ethiopia - Ark of the Covenant Not To Be Revealed After All
If initial reports were to be believed, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia would have unveiled the Ark of the Covenant by now. Friday June 26, is almost over in Ethiopia. According to one blogger's account, it appears there is some misunderstanding between what was first reported in Italian and later translated to English. It appears that, adnkronos, the Italian paper that first reported the news, run a clarification in Italian, which you can read here.

Here is what Abuna Pauolos has said as reported in adnkronos

"Non sono qui per dare delle prove che l’Arca sia in Etiopia, ma sono qui per dire quello che ho visto, quello che so e che posso testimoniare. Non ho detto che l’Arca sarà mostrata al mondo. E’ un mistero, un oggetto di culto."

Translation courtesy of Google as follow. Another translation of the above statement is also posted here

"I am not here to give evidence that the Ark is in Ethiopia, but I am here to say what I saw, what I know and I can testify. I did not say that the Ark will be shown to the world. E 'a mystery, an object of worship."
via Google Translation

Another translation

"I am not here to give proofs that the Ark is in Ethiopia, but I am here to say what I saw, what I know and I can attest to. I didn't say that the Ark would be revealed to the world. It is a mystery, an object of veneration."
Translation from freerepublic.com

Another interesting read is from Baltimore's Examiner, you can read it here.

The story has generated huge interest in cyberspace which caused nazret's server to crash several times, we had a huge traffic spike that crippled our server in the past 24 hours. So there you have it, The Ark of the Covenant will NOT be revealed.

Now the other story, perhaps of interest to Ethiopians is, did Abune Paouls really see the Ark of the Covenant? Or is that a misunderstanding as well?

www.nazret.com



yohannan -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (6/27/2009 1:12:59 PM)

The celebration is in the September month this year and begins in The September ending with This Most Important celebration event.
September means 'seven' and ember or flame or spark and is the number 9 month signifying the month money substance weight of The Millennium Reign to come. There is a precious Jewel named amber which is tree sap stone; 'for amber waves of Grain' is the wave offerings etc.

The Rock quarry was found for this two years ago plus three months to date minus 6 days to This Celebration Event. The Construction of The Temple was to take how many years, until completion? The Sacrifice and Offering were written to be taking place in time for the new moon Sabbaths as written. Yet, 1335 days declared to take place after, or during this time period. It is Prophecy one seven, thus 1260 days (to build) and 1260 days to the midpoint when The Abomination takes place; however only by calendar. Or, 1185 days plus 30 (if leap year) and 1335 days for Sacrifice and Offerings presented, with at 1260 days; which is midpoint; the Abomination is set up in The Temple of God for he claims to be greater than The Most High setting himself in the Holy of Holies as though he was God as the prophet of lawlessness which was increasing as written and pitching his royal tents between the two seas which could also signify the tabernacle of the temple of the body called a tent.

3 1/2 years is held to be the concurrent Testimony fulfillment regarding the time of The Testimony of Jesus Messiah whose return is awaited as is at Judea and Muslim cohorts.

The 40 years of Moses if taken as a calculation beginning at the year 1974 + 40 = 2014. A wilderness is written in Revelation for Eve to be taken care of out of the reach of the roaring current spewed at Her for 1260 days or 3 1/2 years or 42 months. This is a time of turmoil for the whole world called the tribulation period which runs concurrent with these things.

These things must come to pass is written, and the end will come at the appointed time. There is a time for everything, a time to build.


quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshine1974

'Ark of the Covenant' about to be unveiled?

The patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia says he will announce to the world Friday the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant, perhaps the world's most prized archaeological and spiritual artifact, which he says has been hidden away in a church in his country for millennia, according to the Italian news agency Adnkronos.

Abuna Pauolos, in Italy for a meeting with Pope Benedict XVI this week, told the news agency, "Soon the world will be able to admire the Ark of the Covenant described in the Bible as the container of the tablets of the law that God delivered to Moses and the center of searches and studies for centuries."

The announcement is expected to be made at 2 p.m. Italian time from the Hotel Aldrovandi in Rome. Pauolos will reportedly be accompanied by Prince Aklile Berhan Makonnen Haile Sellassie and Duke Amedeo D'Acosta World Net Daily

Wondering, If something like that were brought forth, great public adoration of it would take place like the Shroud of Turin spectacle. Many over time have sought Noah's Ark, and just how would that change the hearts of man?

But with Israel, there is some possibility that if a new temple is built, an Ark of the Covenant would certainly draw Israel back into their worship quickly. Their tribes would be numbered and sorted by banner again according to their marching order, and Levites would miraculously appear from all four sides of the earth to perform the sacrifices. Satan would then make a covenant with them 1290 days prior to the middle of the tribulation, and off to the races they would be. Something to think about.



Lapidoth -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/2/2009 11:03:09 AM)

There's not even a replica of the ark in that place
from the reports I've read.

One rabbi paid thousands of dollars to see it to put
the rumor to rest once and for all.

When he got to where it was supposed to be, there
was nothing there. When he said he wanted his
money back, they said, "If you're supposed to see it
you will see it." And refused to give any of the money
back.

Wish I could find the links to the reports.
I believe the rabbi over the hype put out about all this.



yohannan -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/2/2009 2:54:49 PM)

The tribe of Levi may, in fact, have been partially of nubian descent via his second wife whom he married following or during the trial of the false prophet Balaam or also Korah's rebellion who enticed Israel to side with sexual vestal virgin practices and offerings to Mammon or rebelled concerning The Lord's appointed leadership in Moses following the event whereby 100 people Prophesied and the line was drawn in the desert and everyone who sided with those who were with Korah the earth swallowed up. This is what is written concerning the rushing torrent spewed at the Woman Eve who is the mother of all of God's Children Worldwide.

As a sign, Our Lady of the Angels which is a city name: Los Angeles where a current event is taking place in Requiem for a popular performer named Michael.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

There's not even a replica of the ark in that place
from the reports I've read.

One rabbi paid thousands of dollars to see it to put
the rumor to rest once and for all.

When he got to where it was supposed to be, there
was nothing there. When he said he wanted his
money back, they said, "If you're supposed to see it
you will see it." And refused to give any of the money
back.

Wish I could find the links to the reports.
I believe the rabbi over the hype put out about all this.



ta_mosquito -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/2/2009 4:08:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

There's not even a replica of the ark in that place
from the reports I've read.

One rabbi paid thousands of dollars to see it to put
the rumor to rest once and for all.

When he got to where it was supposed to be, there
was nothing there. When he said he wanted his
money back, they said, "If you're supposed to see it
you will see it." And refused to give any of the money
back.

Wish I could find the links to the reports.
I believe the rabbi over the hype put out about all this.


Similar to The Emperor's New... Ark, eh? Interesting.



MrFribbles -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/2/2009 4:22:50 PM)

jeremih,

Please believe me when I say that what I am about to ask is asked with complete and total sincerity. What on earth are you trying to say?



ta_mosquito -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/2/2009 4:27:54 PM)

If it helps any, it's lelseep with a new handle.



yohannan -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/2/2009 4:31:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrFribbles

jeremih,

Please believe me when I say that what I am about to ask is asked with complete and total sincerity. What on earth are you trying to say?

For what it is worth. There is disputed land property in a certain with an old tunnel which is believed to have certain things stored there from of old regarding a certain decision of a concurrent order from before which has been recently settled. I saw this on History Channel, there is believed to be certain relics or other valuables placed under storage shafts which have water runoff tunnels that were built so that there would not be the water table problems that may come with certain weather patterns.



Eutychus -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/2/2009 5:41:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: yohannan

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrFribbles

jeremih,

Please believe me when I say that what I am about to ask is asked with complete and total sincerity. What on earth are you trying to say?

For what it is worth. There is disputed land property in a certain with an old tunnel which is believed to have certain things stored there from of old regarding a certain decision of a concurrent order from before which has been recently settled in France. I saw this on History Channel, there is believed to be certain relics or other valuables placed under storage shafts which have water runoff tunnels that were built so that there would not be the water table problems that may come with certain weather patterns.

The History Channel also runs stories on UFOs, Big Foot, and conspiracy nonsense. Like any for-profit channel, they'll give people what they want to watch - and believe.



deborlie -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/2/2009 11:14:13 PM)

Euty,

Here's another one for you.
Another TV program toted the story that the marriage of Soloman to the daughter of the Pharaoh in Egypt garnered him privileged information on the use of levers which he used to cause the Ark to disappear (drop down) as Soldiers approached the temple. They explained how that worked and when the Soldiers arrived expecting to see the Ark, they found nothing. The priests were then able to whisk it away through under ground tunnels. Supposedly the Ark will be found underneath the area where the new temple is to be built. Convenient, huh?

Oh, well........ thought I'd share.

bj



yohannan -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/3/2009 2:50:49 AM)

Thank you, deborly!

I heard that the ground was very fruitful for olives as well.

quote:

ORIGINAL: deborlie

Euty,

Here's another one for you.
Another TV program toted the story that the marriage of Soloman to the daughter of the Pharaoh in Egypt garnered him privileged information on the use of levers which he used to cause the Ark to disappear (drop down) as Soldiers approached the temple. They explained how that worked and when the Soldiers arrived expecting to see the Ark, they found nothing. The priests were then able to whisk it away through under ground tunnels. Supposedly the Ark will be found underneath the area where the new temple is to be built. Convenient, huh?

Oh, well........ thought I'd share.

bj



deborlie -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/5/2009 1:55:00 PM)

To whom it may concern:

Rev 11:19. Then the temple of God was opened in heaven and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, and earthquake, and great hail.

Just for fun!

bj



eschatologist -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/5/2009 3:18:34 PM)

I don't understand all this looking for the ark of the covenant. Especially among Christians who should know better. The bible itself tells us where it's at, and Deborlie hit it on the head: Revelations 11:19. It's up in heaven with God. So, how did it get there? God took it, of course. So, when did He take it to heaven? The clue is in the Gospel of Mathew. Mathew 27:51-53: And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake and the rocks rent; And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after His resurrection, and went into the Holy city, and appeared unto many."

Now if you read verse 50 it says, "Jesus, when He had cried with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost." This makes it sound like all the things that happened in verses 51-53 happened at the time of His death. But then it says, "after His resurrection."

Now, I want to point you the phrase, "the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom". Now what is this veil, and why is it significant? This is talking about the veil in the temple behind which the ark of the covenant was placed. The only person allowed to go behind this veil was the high priest. And he only went behind it once a year: "After the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the holiest of all; Which had the golden censor and the ark of the covenant...But into the second (behind the second veil) went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself,and for the errors of the people."(Hebrews 9:3,4,and 7) So, the high priest was the only one who saw the ark of the covenant and knew that it was there. Everybody else had to take it by faith. So, at the time of Jesus' resurrection the veil was completly torn in half from top to bottom. Now, we're not talking about a thin see-through veil which is the modern definition of the word veil. But the veil it's talkng about here is a 4 inch thick woven curtain. It was not something that could be easily torn with human hands. So, God Himself ripped the curtain in half to show everybody what was inside. And what did people see? Nothing! The ark of the covenant was gone because God took it to heaven with Jesus at the time of His resurrection. So, why did God do this? The ark represented God's presence with His people. God taking it to heaven was to show that everybody could now come to God into God's presence through Jesus. We did not need a human high priest to do it for us. Jesus was our high priest who sacrificed himself once and for all for the sins of the whole world. "Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.(We don't have to keep making offerings for our sins because Jesus has completly washed them away with His own blood sacrifice.) Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way, which He hath consecrated for us through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; and having an high preist over the house of God; let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of Faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water." (Hebrews 10 18-22) The book of Hebrews gets into detail about the symbolism of the ark of the covenant.

"Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of Grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need." (Hebrews 4:16)

Unlike the Jews of old testament times, we can have boldness to come into the presence of God without fear of being struck dead by God for our sins, because we have Jesus who has cleansed us from all our sins and has reconciled us to God by offering up Himself.

"Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou was slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." (Revelations 5:9-10) Thank-you Jesus. Even so come quickly, Lord Jesus.



tony.nz -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/6/2009 7:19:58 AM)

quote:

The ark of the covenant was gone because God took it to heaven with Jesus at the time of His resurrection.


An interesting argument, eschatologist, but unfortunately the Ark of the Covenant disappeared with the destruction of the first temple by the Babylonians, and it's fate has remained a mystery to this day. So, it had nothing to do with the veil being torn in two.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ark.html#history

Nevertheless, the theory that God took it to heaven is plausable.



Lapidoth -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/7/2009 1:43:54 PM)

The ARK was always in Heaven.
Moses was instructed to make replicas (symbols; types; shadows)
from dimensions God gave him. The Ark of the Covenant is a type
and shadow of the one in Heaven.

There is much said about the sand hydraulics for those who desire
to dig into it with Scripture to show it is more plausible than the
"bible stories" we are told about things. I'm thinking Jeremiah was
instrumental in the hiding of the "gold" of the Temple Treasuries.

quote:

Similar to The Emperor's New... Ark, eh? Interesting.

I hadn't thought of that, but that just about sums it up.
The legends take our focus off of what is really true.

Here's some PICTURES of the theory behind Solomon's Temple.



bob97 -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/7/2009 3:21:53 PM)

quote:

There is much said about the sand hydraulics for those who desire
to dig into it with Scripture to show it is more plausible than the
"bible stories" we are told about things. I'm thinking Jeremiah was
instrumental in the hiding of the "gold" of the Temple Treasuries.


Been there...done that Lap and it is a very interesting concept that is supported in many ways by scripture.[:)]

Bob



deborlie -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/7/2009 11:21:11 PM)

quote:

The ARK was always in Heaven.
Moses was instructed to make replicas (symbols; types; shadows)
from dimensions God gave him. The Ark of the Covenant is a type
and shadow of the one in Heaven.


Hi Lap,

You are right, there has always been an Ark in heaven.
This verse does specify "The Ark of the Covenant". Not just the Heavenly Ark.

Instructions were given to the building of the Ark of the Covenant as well as the Temple and it's other sacred artifacts, making them a replica of the Heavenly Temple.
I do feel because of that specification of it as an 'Ark of a Covenant' would mean the Ark of the Mosaic Covenant to the people of Israel. If not just the Mosaic Covenant then all of the Covenants that God has pledged to His people.
Well, there is no way of knowing for sure. I believe on the side of Scripture, but God can hide it anywhere He wants for it to be revealed, only at an appropriate time, and when He is ready.

It's fun speculating,

bj



Aleric -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/8/2009 1:51:20 AM)

What's the big deal about the Ark?



Lapidoth -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/8/2009 9:41:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aleric

What's the big deal about the Ark?


If you don't know, we probably can't explain it to you. lol



Lapidoth -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/8/2009 9:43:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bob97

quote:

There is much said about the sand hydraulics for those who desire
to dig into it with Scripture to show it is more plausible than the
"bible stories" we are told about things. I'm thinking Jeremiah was
instrumental in the hiding of the "gold" of the Temple Treasuries.


Been there...done that Lap and it is a very interesting concept that is supported in many ways by scripture.[:)]

Bob


Yep, that cleared up a lot of things that appear as contradictions
but are easily explained. That was an interesting journey to be sure.
And continues to be interesting. My study pal and I are in the third
Gospel. We can only study once a week instead of daily now. I hate
that, but that's life. Our group is still in the first Gospel. lol.
Which gives my associate and I time to be a step or two ahead of the group.



WesP -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/8/2009 10:01:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

ORIGINAL: bob97

quote:

There is much said about the sand hydraulics for those who desire
to dig into it with Scripture to show it is more plausible than the
"bible stories" we are told about things. I'm thinking Jeremiah was
instrumental in the hiding of the "gold" of the Temple Treasuries.


Been there...done that Lap and it is a very interesting concept that is supported in many ways by scripture.[:)]

Bob


Yep, that cleared up a lot of things that appear as contradictions
but are easily explained. That was an interesting journey to be sure.
And continues to be interesting. My study pal and I are in the third
Gospel. We can only study once a week instead of daily now. I hate
that, but that's life. Our group is still in the first Gospel. lol.
Which gives my associate and I time to be a step or two ahead of the group.


You spoke of curiosity in the Obama birth certificate thread. Well, you and Bob have me peaked here. This is all new to me, and now I have to check it out! [:D]



bob97 -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/8/2009 12:34:00 PM)

Wes there is a series of videos by Michael Rood (which many denounce by the way) anyway if you can find then, they do a great job regarding the feast and on the ark. They are called "The Prophecies in the Feasts of he Lord"

Bob



Lapidoth -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/8/2009 1:19:41 PM)

Here's an interesting "movie" link

LINK

It's almost an hour long.



Retrobyter -> RE: Ark of the Covenant about to be unveiled? (7/8/2009 10:57:15 PM)

Shalom, everyone.

In the immortal words of Bill Cosby, "Right! What's an 'ark?'"

Roy



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