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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/4/2009 2:26:22 PM
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yankeedoodled
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Fear monger racist Christians and innocent harmless Muslims, pay no attention to the twin towers or the cutting of stewardesses throats nor the passenger civilians ruthless murderered or the American soldiers captured and viciously, savaged tortured to death-none allowed to survive, and then of course in Iraq forcing civilian familes to eat their own sons. yeah, ain't that much better than those 'evil racist' Christians who many time free them from oppressors like Iraq and KuWait and spend billions feeding them in their time of need, Muslims world wide. You know after the Tsunami that hit Indonesia massive amounts of Ameriocan money was sent their to help them, but a year or two later the Muslims thanked the Christian effort by going on a Jihad and murdering and butchering Christians over there. I'm neither blind nor a fool, I CAN SEE A DIFFERENCE.
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/4/2009 9:29:48 PM
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yankeedoodled
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No big deal, i miss it some times myself.
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/6/2009 8:18:35 PM
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This is a great article on demographics, from the UK and not from a necessarily Christian perspective;
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Life, the gift we treasure most, yet refuse to bestow on others
Why does an educated, prosperous society choose not to reproduce itself, asks Charles Moore.
By Charles Moore
Our village is unusual in having a mainline railway station. Each day, a small number of people walk up from the station and past our house on their way to work. It is quite a long walk – perhaps a mile and a half – but I imagine they walk because they do not earn enough to own cars. They are virtually all foreign. They are on their way to serve as carers and nurses in an old people's home, whose inmates are virtually all British.
This procession is a daily visual illustration of what happens to a country when it lives and, increasingly, dies, under an illusion. If you raise the subject of population with British people, most will tell you that the problem is overpopulation. There are too many people in the world, they say, and our own island is overcrowded.
Certainly, population growth causes problems, of which the greatest is the contest for resources, which can lead to war. But, as we are rediscovering with the recession, something frightening happens when what promised to go up, goes down.
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And some of the strongest cultural changes of the past 50 years seem to reflect a strange anger at the idea that the perpetuation of the human race is important. The abortion argument is conducted between "right to choose" and "right to life". It is interesting that "choice" and "life" are seen almost as opposites and that, in public opinion in the West, "choice" wins.
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So what on earth will happen to my generation when we lie dying without the help of the children we somehow convinced ourselves we should not have? All we shall have is the comfort of strangers – nurses from cultures which, unlike our own, had the sense to think more of the future than the present.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/charlesmoore/5735039/Life-the-gift-we-treasure-most-yet-refuse-to-bestow-on-others.html
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/6/2009 9:23:06 PM
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nurses from cultures which, unlike our own, had the sense to think more of the future than the present.
From cultures who value "their" future and not ours.
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/8/2009 5:01:12 AM
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The sarcasm does have a point, since some of the posts here run pretty close to saying "there's no such thing as a good Muslim." When I lived in the UK when the IRA was active, nobody (or no sane person) went around worrying about the local Catholic churches in the neighborhood, even though almost all of the IRA members were Catholics and worshiped in their local churches, and even though some congregations were known to sympathize with the terrorists.
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You know after the Tsunami that hit Indonesia massive amounts of Ameriocan money was sent their to help them, but a year or two later the Muslims thanked the Christian effort by going on a Jihad and murdering and butchering Christians over there. I'm neither blind nor a fool, I CAN SEE A DIFFERENCE.
This is the kind of comment I am talking about. There was absolutely no connection between the two events. Then the person denies what he truly is.
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/8/2009 7:36:49 PM
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Sadly they're supported by Western leftists and told their victim-feelings are perfeclty valid (suicide bombers are "freedom fighters"
Who exactly has said this?
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/9/2009 12:49:15 AM
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ORIGINAL: Sideways
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ORIGINAL: 3cappuccinosmom
Sadly they're supported by Western leftists and told their victim-feelings are perfeclty valid (suicide bombers are "freedom fighters"
Who exactly has said this?
3cappucinosmom said that. I'm not sure if she's lying or simply mistaken.
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/9/2009 9:12:03 PM
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The 9-11 hi-jackers didn't cause 9-11 the day or year they arrived, so by the time RATIONALIZATION, they must be seen as harmless and innocent too ? ? ?
Manipulation going on !
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/10/2009 9:39:41 AM
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These are early and mid-twenties college kids. Guess where they developed their views? "My professor said...." These ideas didn't spring out of nowhere, and they're not that uncommon among my peers. They're also highly vocal, politically active and rather confrontational about thier views.
This situation is going on for a while for 30 years or more (in my understanding of course) around the world at least around the western world uni and colleges student come out in moldes. Just like the adolescence phases are reckognizable the college lefty blablabla mantra is also easy to spot. That ex KGB Bezmenov does explain what goes on about ideological indoctrination etc..here
Now about the Muslims, well we sure are not naive about the orthodox radical arm of Islam, hate preaching propaganda, their terrorist came here to attack us etc but since when "we" are not to apply Ephesians 6:12 to a Muslim? Are Muslim exclude from that Scripture application and they are not flesh and blood but the rulers, authorities, powers, spiritual forces, translation= all are demons of hell???
There are lots of Christians in this world that are not "practicing" but just born on tradition of Christianity. Lord Jesus told Nicodemus, a person must born again by the water and Spirit.
The point of the matter is not who is in the USA's persons "black list" but who is the enemy of God, not having its name written in His books , not purchased by His blood. The real battle is His and He won already.
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/11/2009 1:22:06 PM
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The Bible says judge by the fruits of their labors, not be fools unto destruction. Who but a fool invites those that are determined to murder them into their home as a dear friend, and what is due recompense for being such a fool ?
We opened our doors with benefit of the doubt to Muslims and received 9-11 slaughter, sniper killings, fragging of military men, and other terrorist attempts. Yeah, THAT WOULD BE FRUITS OF THEIR LABORS, Biblical judgment.
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/13/2009 11:47:59 AM
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We opened our doors with benefit of the doubt to Muslims and received 9-11 slaughter, sniper killings, fragging of military men, and other terrorist attempts.
Say what?
I was criticized for saying that this thread was pretty much about claiming that there is no such thing as a good Muslim, but I think this comment just confirmed it.
What an appalling attitude.
Given the terrorist history of the Irish Republican Army, I suppose you don't trust Roman Catholics too?
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/13/2009 12:00:06 PM
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We opened our doors with benefit of the doubt to Muslims and received 9-11 slaughter, sniper killings, fragging of military men, and other terrorist attempts.
Say what?
I was criticized for saying that this thread was pretty much about claiming that there is no such thing as a good Muslim, but I think this comment just confirmed it.
What an appalling attitude.
Given the terrorist history of the Irish Republican Army, I suppose you don't trust Roman Catholics too?
Actually, I started this thread to open people's eyes to the fact that fear-mongering is used to scare Christians into evangelism of Muslims. Not to say that there is no such thing as a good Muslim and the thread got hijacked by the Muslim haters.
Having just got back from a country that is 98% Muslim in W. Africa, I can say that there are nice Muslims. We were welcomed and saw much fruit. We didn't go because of fear of the growth of Muslims. We went because of love for Jesus and his command to go and make disciples.
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/13/2009 6:15:16 PM
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tacitus
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Theos, apologies if my anger was misdirected.
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RE: Muslim Demographics - A Christian Response - 7/14/2009 9:43:49 AM
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Actually, I started this thread to open people's eyes to the fact that fear-mongering is used to scare Christians into evangelism of Muslims. Not to say that there is no such thing as a good Muslim and the thread got hijacked by the Muslim haters.
ROFL! One post in ten does not equal domination.
Sorry, but why do people make such sweeping comments like this? There are extremists on both ends of all issues. We should speak of the issues without antagonism to opposing views. We are to spread the truth in love.
BTW, God bless you for your missionsary work, TheosCentric.
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Yankee, I apologize. I clearly missed the sarcasm in your first post. 
I did get a bad case of gas the last time I ate there! Biological attack? 
). These are early and mid-twenties college kids. Guess where they developed their views? "My professor said...." These ideas didn't spring out of nowhere, and they're not that uncommon among my peers. They're also highly vocal, politically active and rather confrontational about thier views. 
