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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:29:25 PM
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rcjames
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cop was right, Pastor was wrong!
Don't mess with Texas.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:29:40 PM
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I don't know what AG is, but I know what a police officer is. Interferring with official police business is a crime. That pastor interferred and encouraged 30 other people to do wrong as well. He has no concept of how to be a leader- that much is obvious.
Texas is no different than any other state in that if a police officer gives an order you are expected to obey it.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:30:03 PM
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My brother is a police officer in Texas and if he's approached by a group of 30 people, I expect him to protect himself, no matter where he is.
The officer will be no-billed for tasing the pastor; the pastor will likely be charged with a misdemeanor and he'll pay a fine and that will be that. There is no jury in Texas--hopefully anywhere--that would look at this case and think the pastor was in the right.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:30:23 PM
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earthless
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They hardly bum rushed in. They didn't even leave church property, and heck, they were pentecostal worshippers who have been trained to respect the authorities that be. Perhaps a community affairs course would be good for all police officers, as well.
Thank you for your first hand account input and Monday morning quarterbacking. Let me know when I can return the favor regarding your profession, thanks.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:31:00 PM
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I have been enlightened by this thread. I think that cops should do away with the cruel tazer and the mean pepper spray and go back to bullets and batons.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:32:54 PM
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earthless
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Well, the media seems to be taking the side of the community pastor in this case. This should be a very interesting trial, to say the least.
Mainstream media taking a side against the police? WOW! What a shock, someone fan me...
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:34:42 PM
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Mainstream media taking a side against the police? WOW! What a shock, someone fan me...
This will more than likely become a 'racial' case, just wait and see.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:39:08 PM
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earthless
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The fact that if he used a taser on someone, he'd better have had a very good reason for doing it if he wants to keep his job. Again, where is the dash cam when you need it?
And with war zones (I mean neighborhoods) teeming with people like the above with that mindset.. is it any wonder why cops are not willing to do their jobs when it comes to the gang bangers and drug dealers?
I had a lady last night throw a bottle at my car, yelling from her front porch.. telling me to go F___ myself.. that we, the police, were not welcome in her neighborhood. The same neighborhood that had 27 shootings this past weekend alone.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:41:55 PM
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Thank you for your first hand account input and Monday morning quarterbacking. Let me know when I can return the favor regarding your profession, thanks.
You are free to do so when I make a mistake that lands someone in the hospital.
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I had a lady last night throw a bottle at my car, yelling from her front porch.. telling me to go F___ myself.. that we, the police, were not welcome in her neighborhood. The same neighborhood that had 27 shootings this past weekend alone.
Well, the liberal approach is to stay out and let the number of shootings get up to 50 or so and wait for them to want you back in. Besides, Chicago has a bad law enforcement system, anyways. Here in NYC, the police are generally on foot and often grew up in or very close to the block/neighborhood they patrol. The police in NYC generally get a lot more training than most communities as well. This results in a lower per-capita murder and violent crime rate and ultimately, better relations with the community.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:44:13 PM
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Well, the liberal approach is to stay out and let the number of shootings get up to 50 or so and wait for them to want you back in.
Nope, thanks to people like you.. we will give them what they want. Let the animals kill each other.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:45:01 PM
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I had a lady last night throw a bottle at my car, yelling from her front porch.. telling me to go F___ myself.. that we, the police, were not welcome in her neighborhood. The same neighborhood that had 27 shootings this past weekend alone.
Well, the liberal approach is to stay out and let the number of shootings get up to 50 or so and wait for them to want you back in.
Oh...wow.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:46:23 PM
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blessedinnyc
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Nope, thanks to people like you.. we will give them what they want. Let the animals kill each other.
Very simple; if a community doesn't want police, it should experience what the results of not having police are like.
If a community does not train its police to follow procedure (CC: Oakland), it should experience the results, as well.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:48:38 PM
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blessedinnyc
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Oh...wow.
If it gets to the point where the community sees you as armed thugs, it is best to get out and let them come to their senses. CC: Vietnam. CC: Bronx in the '70s. In the long run, it turned out to be the best move.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:48:40 PM
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stellaluna
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You are assuming, based on various news reports you've read, that the officer in question wasn't properly trained. You are jumping to a conclusion.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:49:33 PM
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earthless
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Nope, thanks to people like you.. we will give them what they want. Let the animals kill each other.
Very simple; if a community doesn't want police, it should experience what the results are like.
If a community does not train its police to follow procedure (CC: Oakland), it should experience the results, as well.
And tell me.. which law enforcement agency did you work for and for how many years?
Do you even have a military background?
Heck, have you ever even been in a fight or a victim of a crime?
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:50:40 PM
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I had a lady last night throw a bottle at my car, yelling from her front porch.. telling me to go F___ myself.. that we, the police, were not welcome in her neighborhood. The same neighborhood that had 27 shootings this past weekend alone.
Earthless
I must be living in a cave not to have realized before this that you are a cop. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:52:20 PM
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blessedinnyc
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And tell me.. which law enforcement agency did you work for and for how many years?
Do you even have a military background?
Heck, have you ever even been in a fight or a victim of a crime?
No. But the police are public officials paid for by taxpayers and answerable to the public.
If your taxes pay my salary, you are free to comment on my job as a programmer if my errors send people to the hospital. How much did you pay in taxes last year?
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:54:21 PM
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blessedinnyc
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Give the Dear Leader 0Bama enough time and you will either be unemployed and or paid by the government too. 
Doubtful. I will just move to the Bahamas if it's really that bad.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:54:33 PM
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But the police are public officials paid for by taxpayers.
Exactly. So why would some one want to interfere with one doing his job..?
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:54:39 PM
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And tell me.. which law enforcement agency did you work for and for how many years?
Do you even have a military background?
Heck, have you ever even been in a fight or a victim of a crime?
No. But the police are public officials paid for by taxpayers.
If your taxes pay my salary, you are free to comment on my job as a programmer if my errors send people to the hospital.
Actually, you make an exceptionally good point here. Where we live, HOMEOWNERS taxes pay the salary of public officials. A lot of times, the people who are griping about the way they are or are not being served aren't even homeowners.
Just because police are public servants does not mean they are servants to you, or to the people they serve. They serve the greater good. Not the individual opinion. If you don't like whats happening in your community - VOTE. Vote on how tax dollars are being spent. . .provided your a tax payer.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:57:21 PM
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Eutychus
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Ummm, didn't the article say he had a heart condition?
Hence, deadly weapon.
Then the man wasn't just a troublemaker, he was a fool for interfering with the policeman.
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RE: Texas Police shoot Pentecostal pastor with taser; a... - 7/2/2009 1:57:56 PM
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blessedinnyc
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But the police are public officials paid for by taxpayers.
Exactly. So why would some one want to interfere with one doing his job..?
Matthew
Allegedly interfere. The only things both sides agree on are that an overweight and apparently non-threatening pastor was tazered and that a Church was pepper sprayed.
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Just because police are public servants does not mean they are servants to you, or to the people they serve. They serve the greater good. Not the individual opinion. If you don't like whats happening in your community - VOTE. Vote on how tax dollars are being spent. . .provided your a tax payer.
They are servants of the community, and sometimes, issues are too important and urgent to wait for another election. And the only way to address it in an election is to actually discuss the issue.
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Then the man wasn't just a troublemaker, he was a fool for interfering with the policeman.
So you are saying that the AG would allow a fool to make it all the way through seminary and become a pastor? Was he foolish for believing he wouldn't get tasered for stepping outside to see what was going on?
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