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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 7:05:19 PM   
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Not too suprising, she has accomplished in two years her stated goals for the four years, finially proved herself innocent of all the phoney baloney ethics charges; so maybe she is just ready for a new challenge.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 7:07:52 PM   
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I found This interesting:
Palin said she planned to make a "positive change outside government," without elaborating. She also expressed frustration with her current role as governor.

"I cannot stand here as your governor and allow the millions of dollars and all that time go to waste just so I can hold the title of governor," Palin said.

Later, on Twitter, she promised supporters more details: "We'll soon attach info on decision to not seek re-election ... this is in Alaska's best interest, my family's happy ... it is good. Stay tuned"

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 7:08:10 PM   
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During her speech, Palin noted that she and her husband owe $500K in legal bills, so between her upcoming book deal and the prospect of paid speaking events she stands to make up that loss and then some.

So is she leaving office early to cash in on her celebrity?

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"I cannot stand here as your governor and allow the millions of dollars and all that time go to waste just so I can hold the title of governor," Palin said.


This strikes me as a cop-out.

Lots of governors ride out for their full term despite being a lame duck. It's the nature of the political beast to have to deal with such things.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 7:18:43 PM   
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This strikes me funny...


as the crititcs are already circling trying to figure her out or figure an angle. Imagine that, she can make a personal choice without explaining to the peanut gallery.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 7:26:26 PM   
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"I cannot stand here as your governor and allow the millions of dollars and all that time go to waste just so I can hold the title of governor," Palin said.


This strikes me as a cop-out.

Lots of governors ride out for their full term despite being a lame duck. It's the nature of the political beast to have to deal with such things.



I thought that was odd too. Wouldn't she just be replaced by someone new who'd take up the same salary? Or am I reading into the issue incorrectly?
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 7:40:55 PM   
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Wouldn't she just be replaced by someone new who'd take up the same salary? Or am I reading into the issue incorrectly?

I think she's referring to the cost of the 15 ethics investigations that she feels were politically motivated, not so much the salary. I guess she's assuming that her successor won't be subject to the same scrutiny.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 7:46:03 PM   
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as the crititcs are already circling trying to figure her out or figure an angle. Imagine that, she can make a personal choice without explaining to the peanut gallery.

I think if she had just said "I'm sorry to announce that I've chosen to step down for personal reasons and for the benefit of my family" she would have been fine. Unfortunately, she gave a long, rambling speech that never said why she was stepping down (and that made a bunch of veiled, confusing references to what she was going to do)...I just listened to the speech and her reasons totally escape me even though she says she gave them in the speech.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 7:49:30 PM   
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If this is for a scandal which I doubt (since little to nothing she has been accused of has stuck or interested me anyway) she is much more of a man than Sanford is.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 7:50:23 PM   
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basically... I gathered she was moving into a private arena where trumped up charges BETTER be real.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 8:07:47 PM   
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This strikes me funny...as the crititcs are already circling trying to figure her out or figure an angle. Imagine that, she can make a personal choice without explaining to the peanut gallery.


Forget the peanut gallery. What about the Alaskans who Palin promised four years to? Like I said previously, if Palin were leaving due to family issues or a political scandal that's one thing.

But if she's bailing on the responsibilities of her office for sake of personal expediency I think that's hardly the act of a leader.

In fact, I can't think of any governor or higher office holder who resigned just because they felt like it, and were not compelled to leave by issues beyond their control.

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Unfortunately, she gave a long, rambling speech that never said why she was stepping down (and that made a bunch of veiled, confusing references to what she was going to do)...I just listened to the speech and her reasons totally escape me even though she says she gave them in the speech.


I also saw the whole thing and found it very confusing. Even Republicans being interviewed on cable news are scratching their heads trying to figure out where Palin was going.

Maybe she needs to borrow Obama's teleprompter.

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I gathered she was moving into a private arena where trumped up charges BETTER be real.


I guess Palin is taking Harry Truman's advice about the relationship between heat and kitchens.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 8:26:20 PM   
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I think maybe she believes she would better serve Alaska by serving America -- since her powerful, wealthy and very well politcally connected adversary seems bent on keeping trumped up charges costing the taxpayers, the Palins and clogging the court system with frivous suits -- you know keep'em distract with all the legal manuevers...old trick.

As a private citizen ...they better have their accusations solid or else ...

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I guess Palin is taking Harry Truman's advice about the relationship between heat and kitchens.


I think she has "manned up" more than a lot of her critics have who throw mud and run & hide.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 8:28:13 PM   
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During her speech, Palin noted that she and her husband owe $500K in legal bills, so between her upcoming book deal and the prospect of paid speaking events she stands to make up that loss and then some.

So is she leaving office early to cash in on her celebrity?

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"I cannot stand here as your governor and allow the millions of dollars and all that time go to waste just so I can hold the title of governor," Palin said.


This strikes me as a cop-out.

Lots of governors ride out for their full term despite being a lame duck. It's the nature of the political beast to have to deal with such things.

Think what you want, but my opinion is it has a lot more to do with the stimulus law and strings attached for the states than anything else:

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Some strings attached:
March 15, 2009
Last month, Congress enacted the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, popularly called “the stimulus plan.” It gives billions of dollars to the states, but the gift has strings attached. One of its unique provisions changes state constitutions! That provision is unconstitutional, and its defect raises problems about the whole enterprise.

The aphorism, he who pays the piper calls the tune, is one that Congress understands quite well. If the state accepts funds, it also accepts a host of restrictions. For example, the plan increases, temporarily, the money it sends to states to fund various welfare programs. To receive that money, states have to add thousands of new people to the welfare rolls. In two years, the federal largesse stops, but the new welfare recipients are still there.

Consequently, several governors have said that they might simply refuse the money. Most are Republican, but recently the Democratic governor of Tennessee has joined the chorus. The stimulus bill, for example, gives $7 billion to the states to add to their unemployment trust funds, but to receive this “gift,” a state has to change its formula so that it makes more people eligible for benefits, which leaves a long-term obligation on the system.

Because some governors might not accept the money, Congress added a unique provision, in subsection 1607(b): “If funds provided to any State in any division of this Act are not accepted for use by the Governor, then acceptance by the State legislature, by means of the adoption of a concurrent resolution, shall be sufficient to provide funding to such State.

If state law does not give the state legislature the right to bypass the governor, how can Congress just change that law? Where does Congress get the power to change a state constitution?

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 8:29:39 PM   
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I think she has "manned up" more


If she has truely, "manned up" shouldn't she finish her term?

I'm really curious as to why she's not and hope she explains herself better.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 8:46:30 PM   
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You have to look at her entire time as Gov as well as when she was running for the office. She had no intention of being a politician such as anyone has ever seen before. She made a habit of doing things differently and she has made it very clear that she did not want to waste money nor put the state in a bad position. I think she made it very clear that she felt she was more of a liability to the state as gov then she would be if she were working from the private sector for the moment.

All of this happened so fast, and there are people who have come forward to say that this is a discussion she has been having with herself for a while now. I personally think she would not have done this if she did not have a plan already in place as well as some back up plans.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 8:51:35 PM   
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Think what you want, but my opinion is it has a lot more to do with the stimulus law and strings attached for the states than anything else:


This is an excuse. After all, were Governor Palin truly a "barracuda" then why doesn't she stay in the fight?

Granted, I'm not among Palin's fans, but simple respect for your constituents says you stick it out for your entire term barring a situation that forces you to leave (e.g. family issues, scandals). Had Palin announced today that she simply were not seeking re-election, but would finish her time in office that's one thing.

But quitting just two and half years into one's first go-around is completely different.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 9:27:25 PM   
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After all, were Governor Palin truly a "barracuda" then why doesn't she stay in the fight?

I believe she is; just not the way California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and other Governors are staying in the fight --- yet unable to keep their states from going broke before their own eyes; I believe she has a better way 'to stay in the fight' up her sleeve.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 10:00:01 PM   
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I believe she is; just not the way California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and other Governors are staying in the fight --- yet unable to keep their states from going broke before their own eyes; I believe she has a better way 'to stay in the fight' up her sleeve.

What does the situation in California have to do with the stimulus money? Schwarzenegger went out of his way to support the stimulus package and even said in an interview: "Well, Governor Sanford says that he does not want to take the federal stimulus package money. And I'll say to him, I'll take it, I'm more than happy to take his money or any other governor in this country that doesn't want to take this money. I'll take it, because we in California need it."
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 10:23:25 PM   
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I believe she is; just not the way California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and other Governors are staying in the fight --- yet unable to keep their states from going broke before their own eyes; I believe she has a better way 'to stay in the fight' up her sleeve.

What does the situation in California have to do with the stimulus money? Schwarzenegger went out of his way to support the stimulus package and even said in an interview: "Well, Governor Sanford says that he does not want to take the federal stimulus package money. And I'll say to him, I'll take it, I'm more than happy to take his money or any other governor in this country that doesn't want to take this money. I'll take it, because we in California need it."

He's staying in the fight and is fighting his way; the way I see it, if he stepped down now, the state would be left in much worse hands, so he has to fight from there even by taking that stimulus money knowing:

"If the state accepts funds, it also accepts a host of restrictions. For example, the plan increases, temporarily, the money it sends to states to fund various welfare programs. To receive that money, states have to add thousands of new people to the welfare rolls. In two years, the federal largesse stops, but the new welfare recipients are still there. "
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"The stimulus bill, for example, gives $7 billion to the states to add to their unemployment trust funds, but to receive this “gift,” a state has to change its formula so that it makes more people eligible for benefits, which leaves a long-term obligation on the system."
As stated above in post #37.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 10:49:28 PM   
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I was worried about Gov. Palin as a choice for McCain she seemed not ready for prime time. She wasn't she bombed the Couric and Sean Hannity interviews and she has made a ton of errors.

Her timing and speech today were awful. She's all about herself and she quit on the people who elected her as Gov. I think she is full of herself and I think the GOP should be cautious of promoting her within the party.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 11:11:58 PM   
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At the risk of sounding cynical, I suspect it's the .

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 11:14:48 PM   
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In all candor, anyone who blames the stimulus bill for Palin's sudden departure is kidding themselves - which is exactly why I expect Limbaugh to beat this same drum on Monday.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/3/2009 11:19:18 PM   
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I think she has "manned up" more


If she has truely, "manned up" shouldn't she finish her term?

I'm really curious as to why she's not and hope she explains herself better.


I heard an interview from her brother saying that 80 percent of her time was being dominated by trumped up ethics charges that ALL were dismissed... I suspect that played into the equation. Besides, as a private citizen she can probably do more good at this point -- and counter-sue. Yes, an uncoventional decision -- but certainly "manned up" a lot more than some of her critics that "fight like a girl'.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 12:25:29 AM   
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"I cannot stand here as your governor and allow the millions of dollars and all that time go to waste just so I can hold the title of governor," Palin said.


This strikes me as a cop-out.

Lots of governors ride out for their full term despite being a lame duck. It's the nature of the political beast to have to deal with such things.


That's not what we were told to think about President Bush as a lame duck last year:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/10/15/fast_track_the_new_president/

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THE NEXT PRESIDENT will be elected on Nov. 4, but will not take office until Jan. 20. Normally, this lag time is not an issue. But with the financial system in meltdown, the "real" economy threatening to follow, and a feckless, lame-duck administration unable to lead, this yawning interval is a problem.

...

But there is a way out - if our political leaders are smart, courageous, and public-spirited enough to take it.

Assume that Barack Obama wins the election, as polls show is increasingly likely. The following day, Vice President Cheney should be prevailed upon to resign. Using his powers to designate a successor under the 25th Amendment, President Bush should then appoint, and Congress should confirm, Obama as vice president (just as Richard Nixon appointed Gerald Ford vice president in 1973 when Spiro Agnew resigned). Bush himself should then resign, elevating Obama to the presidency - as Ford became president when Nixon resigned. Obama should then appoint Joe Biden as vice president.

With Congress's confirmation of Biden, the new administration would be in place, on the job, and ready to tackle the economic crisis - in November, not January. (The electoral college's official ratification of the election results in December would merely rubber-stamp the transition.)

Such extraordinary action would be particularly appropriate in the event of an Obama/Biden victory, since that ticket promises the most dramatic change from the current administration's approach and policies.

However, it could be pursued with equal effectiveness if the McCain/Palin ticket is victorious. The goal remains the same: Get the new administration up, running, and dealing with the crisis as quickly as possible. It is simply vital for the government to act in as urgent a fashion as the situation demands.


Sounds like the Boston Globe considers Governor Palin to be "smart, courageous, and public-spirited enough to take it."

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 12:40:06 AM   
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democrats relentlessly attacked Palin when she ran for office the last Presidential election and has been under relentless vicious attack by Obama's legion of unscrupulous lawyer thugs sueing her and causing massive cost to Palin to defend herself against spurious charges. If Palin wants a chance in the next Presidential election she has to get out from under an avalanche of gang/thug litigation. The wicked stick together as if they were glued together and the Good abandon their leaders in their time of need.



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So much of the history of the struggle between good and evil can be explained by Edmund Burke's observation. Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right. There are numerous examples of this sad and awful scenario being played out over and over again in the scriptures.

They Get Nothing Good Done
When good men do nothing, they get nothing good done. To be good, one must do good. The Lord commands his people to do good (Luke 6:35; Eph. 2:10). Christ "gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works" (Titus 2:14).

In the parable of the talents, Jesus described a man who did nothing. When he received his Lord's money, he "went and digged in the earth, and hid his Lord's money" (Matt. 25:18). When his Lord returned, he returned to the Lord just what he had been given (Matt. 25:25). Notice, the servant did not do any outright evil, such as stealing the money, but then neither did he do anything good. He did nothing and he got nothing good accomplished. Jesus said he was a "wicked and slothful servant" (Matt. 25:26).

Jesus rebuked the church at Laodicea for doing nothing. "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked" (Rev. 3:15-17).

Too many Christians and too many churches do nothing. They are standing idly by, they are mere spectators. They sit on the sidelines instead of actively participating and working for the good. If good wins, they join in the celebration though they did nothing to produce the victory. If evil wins, they will complain long and loud though their own apathy helped produce the undesirable result.

When Jesus found a fig tree with "nothing thereon, but leaves only" He cursed the tree and "presently the fig tree withered away" (Matt. 21:19). What will He do with those who claim to be good and yet who do nothing? John the baptist warned, "And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire" (Matt. 3:10; John 15:2).

They Help Evil To Triumph
When good men do nothing, evil triumphs. Evil, sin and sinful men must be opposed. God commands those who are good, not just to avoid evil but actively oppose it.

Christians are to not only to "have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but (also) reprove them" (Eph. 5:11). Those who do nothing about sin and evil, help the sin and evil to prevail. One who is silent when there are those around him in sin becomes a partaker with them (Eph. 5:7).

In the days of Elijah, the silence of many had allowed the evil of Ahab and Jezebel to prevail throughout the land of Israel. "And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? If the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word" (1 Kings 18:21). The silence of the people spoke volumes of their indecisiveness and inaction. Their failure to stand up, speak up and speak out permitted wicked and evil men to run rampant.

Jesus told of a traveler who was robbed, beaten and left him half dead. The men who did this were wicked and did a very wicked thing. But the Levite and priest allowed this evil to continue unanswered by doing nothing as they each "passed by on the other side" (Luke 10:31-32). Fortunately for the traveler there was one man, a Samaritan, who was willing to stand up for what was right (Luke 10:33-36).

Jesus warned "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad" (Matt. 12:30). In the fight against evil there is no middle ground, no gray area, no neutrality. Those who are not actively and vigorously fighting against evil are helping evil to triumph.

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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 5:22:15 AM   
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