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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 5:27:44 AM
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tacitus
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Not too suprising, she has accomplished in two years her stated goals for the four years, finially proved herself innocent of all the phoney baloney ethics charges; so maybe she is just ready for a new challenge.
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That's an interesting take.
It's nonsense. Being governor of a state isn't a two year job. You don't get to leave early just because you've checked off a list of things you said you were going to do before you were elected. She said she was doing what a good point guard would do in a basketball game, handing off the ball at the right time. But as one staunch Republican pundit said this afternoon, what she's doing is more like Kobe Bryant handing off the ball in a game mid season and going home for the rest of the year.
As I said before, if she's really doing this for the family and is getting out of politics completely for a good while, then fine---she's decided she's not up to the job as governor along with all the other stuff she's got to deal with, family, press, etc. Few people would blame her.
But if she's quitting simply to further her own political ambitions, then she's going about it the wrong way. If you look at the reactions from conservative pundits who have supported her in the past, they range from bamboozlement to incredulity. Even Bill Kristol and Rich Lowery are struggling to find an explanation, and they are huge fans of hers.
There is another possibility. There are rumors going around up in Alaska that there may have been some shenanigans over the building of her house and the contractors they used (the same ones she picked to build the sports complex nobody wanted), and indictments may be forthcoming. It could all be nonsense of course, but it would help explain the haste and timing of the resignation. We should know one way or another within a week.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 5:30:04 AM
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This strikes me funny...
as the crititcs are already circling trying to figure her out or figure an angle. Imagine that, she can make a personal choice without explaining to the peanut gallery.
You don't think she owes Alaskans an explanation, especially those who voted her into office why she's quitting the job they elected her to do?
Wow!
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 5:41:29 AM
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I heard an interview from her brother saying that 80 percent of her time was being dominated by trumped up ethics charges that ALL were dismissed... I suspect that played into the equation. Besides, as a private citizen she can probably do more good at this point -- and counter-sue. Yes, an uncoventional decision -- but certainly "manned up" a lot more than some of her critics that "fight like a girl'. 
Sooo... if she was no longer having to deal with ethics complaints (them all having been resolved) why quit now? She already spent the money on the legal fees (money that will be recouped through her supporters--not to mention the million dollar book deal she has).
And if she wants a future in politics, she not going to start suing people who raised ethics complaints against her -- or suing people in the press for libelous stories. In fact, I think I can safely predict she isn't going to sue anyone.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 8:05:12 AM
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If this is for a scandal which I doubt (since little to nothing she has been accused of has stuck or interested me anyway) she is much more of a man than Sanford is.
Has she taken any trips to Argentina lately? (If I were flying to Argentina, I certainly wouldn't start from Alaska!)
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 9:19:14 AM
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If this is for a scandal which I doubt (since little to nothing she has been accused of has stuck or interested me anyway) she is much more of a man than Sanford is.
Has she taken any trips to Argentina lately? (If I were flying to Argentina, I certainly wouldn't start from Alaska!)
LOL!!! I thought the same thing!!!
I'll bet Mark Sanford is breathing another sigh of relief.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 9:33:16 AM
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At the risk of sounding cynical, I suspect it's the  .
If her family owes $500g, that would be a very valid reason.
I can see her taking over a think tank or something.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 10:35:30 AM
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Two pages of speculation.
Yea SonInMe1, let the tree hugging liberals have a little fun, since they have about quit trying to defend the undefensable Obama; they need something to do.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 10:39:33 AM
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...she has a responsibility to complete her term.
I imagine we will see what was behind her quitting....soon enough.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 11:02:30 AM
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Yeah, over the last day or so I have seen no less than 10 theories as to why she is stepping down; it amazes me how obssessed the press and the lefties are still with castigating this woman under any and all circumstances; that says as much about them as it does about her.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 12:16:32 PM
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Yeah, over the last day or so I have seen no less than 10 theories as to why she is stepping down; it amazes me how obssessed the press and the lefties are still with castigating this woman under any and all circumstances; that says as much about them as it does about her.
Well, speaking as a Palin critic, I have to admit that she is fun to speculate over.
Daily Beast has posted a list of top ten reasons why Palin resigned early, two or three of which I think have possible merit.
Otherwise, to get a sample of the local reaction to Palin's sudden departure, I've been reading some online message boards for various major Alaskan newspapers (Fairbanks, Juneau, Anchorage), and the angry/negative reactions outweigh the supportive ones by roughly 9-1.
Terms like "quitter" and "Governor Martyr" are pretty common as well.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 12:43:13 PM
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If she did quit her job as governor so that she can run for the big one in 2012; wouldn't it look bad to quit a job that you said you'd do? How common is it for governors to quit so they can run for president? I don't know myself - just curious...
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 1:07:18 PM
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Yeah, over the last day or so I have seen no less than 10 theories as to why she is stepping down; it amazes me how obssessed the press and the lefties are still with castigating this woman under any and all circumstances; that says as much about them as it does about her.
I know how you feel. The right does it to Obama all the time.
Palin killed my chances of voting McCain. McCain, when he's not just singing the party tune, is a very decent, intelligent man, possibly worth being a President.
Palin seemed a bit immature, and very uninformed. Really gave the Libs an easy target. I think if I were to pick a Repub for presidential candidate, that Bobby Jindal would be a better choice. Maybe McCain-Jindal.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 1:23:17 PM
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How common is it for governors to quit so they can run for president?
I'm not sure how many governors have resigned in advance (of the election), but I think it's accepted practice after a governor formally declares he/she is running for President. Of course that is not the case here...with the campaign season over two years away.
Governor Bill Clinton did not resign until after he won the 1992 Presidential election (December).
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 1:38:14 PM
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Yeah, over the last day or so I have seen no less than 10 theories as to why she is stepping down; it amazes me how obssessed the press and the lefties are still with castigating this woman under any and all circumstances; that says as much about them as it does about her.
I do concur with what you have said. In this instance however in stepping down without giving a reason with a year and a half left in her term it has far more than just the typical leftists curious. This is a major news story when a recent VP candidate simply stops being governor for no announced reason.
For the record though I haven't followed any of her scandals except the e-mail one because I think most of them were just insane rubbish slinging. The only two things I will fault her for is e-mail gate and for resigning without any notice or explanation.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 1:39:39 PM
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Otherwise, to get a sample of the local reaction to Palin's sudden departure, I've been reading some online message boards for various major Alaskan newspapers (Fairbanks, Juneau, Anchorage), and the angry/negative reactions outweigh the supportive ones by roughly 9-1.
Terms like "quitter" and "Governor Martyr" are pretty common as well.
While there is no question that there are going to be people in Alaska who are angry about this move (possibly many), pointing to Internet message boards of local Alaskan newspapers doesn't go very far in proving the local reaction, unless those boards limit comments to residents of Alaska.
-Joe, from Wasilla.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 1:40:53 PM
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I know how you feel. The right does it to Obama all the time.
Palin killed my chances of voting McCain. McCain, when he's not just singing the party tune, is a very decent, intelligent man, possibly worth being a President.
Palin seemed a bit immature, and very uninformed. Really gave the Libs an easy target. I think if I were to pick a Repub for presidential candidate, that Bobby Jindal would be a better choice. Maybe McCain-Jindal.
Well speculating about Obama's motives and intentions isn't all that unusual as he is the sitting President of the US, and what he does or does not do effects us all; if the right were obsessing over him 6 months after he lost the election, that would be bizarre - as is the obsession over Palin.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 1:45:45 PM
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I'm not sure how many governors have resigned in advance (of the election)
Off the top of my head, I don't know of any.
Governors or senators running for higher office generally (with the exception of Sarah Palin yesterday) keep their current seat as a fall-back should their other aspirations not work out.
Otherwise, the more I think about Palin's motives for resigning early, the more I suspect they are due to her finances, and wanting to cash in on her notoriety while she can. So in effect, she's set aside her responsibilities to Alaska, and its constituents to make a buck.
Nice to see Sarah's got her priorities firmly in place.
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While there is no question that there are going to be people in Alaska who are angry about this move (possibly many), pointing to Internet message boards of local Alaskan newspapers doesn't go very far in proving the local reaction, unless those boards limit comments to residents of Alaska.
You're right that anyone can post to these boards, but I made sure to pay attention to locals making comments about their reactions to Palin's departure.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 1:50:48 PM
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From Palin's official website:
http://sarahpac.com/news/news45.aspx
Political operatives descended on Alaska last August, digging for dirt. The ethics law I championed became their weapon of choice. Over the past nine months I've been accused of all sorts of frivolous ethics violations - such as holding a fish in a photograph, wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and answering reporters' questions.
Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We've won! But it hasn't been cheap - the State has wasted THOUSANDS of hours of YOUR time and shelled out some two million of YOUR dollars to respond to "opposition research" - that's money NOT going to fund teachers or troopers - or safer roads. And this political absurdity, the "politics of personal destruction" ... Todd and I are looking at more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight. And what about the people who offer up these silly accusations? It doesn't cost them a dime so they're not going to stop draining public resources - spending other peoples' money in their game.
It's pretty insane - my staff and I spend most of our day dealing with THIS instead of progressing our state now. I know I promised no more "politics as usual," but THIS isn't what anyone had in mind for ALASKA.
yankeedoodled:
It's certainly not speculation that Palin was on the receiving end of a massive political movement garnered by the democrats and Obama to treat Palin like Joe the plumber and worse, the Army/legion of lawyers brazenly and financially forced Palin to resign regardless of her innocence and continuous false charges. Does not those that attack and trash her here reveal that alone ? As previously noted with quotes and scripture, abandoning the good that the wicked may devour them is an act of omission with nasty consequences. $500 million in legal charges and abandoned by so many posturers of good and right. The dictator is here and so are his intolerant, hate filled, vengeance filled stooges who already run the government like a dictatorship, as if that near total power isn't enough.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 2:01:36 PM
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It sounds like she is saying, "Events beyond my control, while causing me to be a national figure, are diminishing my capacity to serve Alaska in neccesary ways, therefore I am going to step aside and allow others to serve our state as needed"
If so, then in our day of self-serving pursuit and preservation of power, the actions are more than refreshing and selfless.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 2:02:30 PM
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It's certainly not speculation that Palin was on the receiving end of a massive political movement garnered by the democrats and Obama to treat Palin like Joe the plumber and worse, the Army/legion of lawyers brazenly and financially forced Palin to resign regardless of her innocence and continuous false charges. Does not those that attack and trash her here reveal that alone ? As previously noted with quotes and scripture, abandoning the good that the wicked may devour them is an act of omission with nasty consequences. $500 million in legal charges and abandoned by so many posturers of good and right. The dictator is here and so are his intolerant, hate filled, vengeance filled stooges who already run the government like a dictatorship, as if that near total power isn't enough.
So in other words, Palin's remaining backers are playing the martyr card, and dressing her up as the victim of a vast left-wing conspiracy.
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It sounds like she is saying, "Events beyond my control, while causing me to be a national figure, are diminishing my capacity to serve Alaska in neccesary ways, therefore I am going to step aside and allow others to serve our state as needed"
Jack, by accepting McCain's VP bid Palin chose to be a national figure. No one thrust that role upon her.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 2:48:37 PM
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i think we have to look at the evidence. what does the press conference show?
a) it was at her home. b) only her family, friends and the new gov's family was there c) she was nervous and had no prepared speech.
forget that this is sarah palin and she has hopes for 2012. this looks to me like someone who got some very bad news and it stopped her world. none of the ethics investigations she's had to deal with come close to jeopardizing her ability to govern. i think it's a health issue - pregnancy, cancer, or something else big.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 4:55:43 PM
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Yeah, over the last day or so I have seen no less than 10 theories as to why she is stepping down; it amazes me how obssessed the press and the lefties are still with castigating this woman under any and all circumstances; that says as much about them as it does about her.
Lefties? From what I've seen the "Righties" are just as baffled and casting around for theories about her resignation -- the NRO Corner has been all about Palin the last couple of days. There is plenty of obsession to go around it seems.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 4:57:15 PM
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Here's another theory:
Palin’s resignation was a shocker that not even her family or closest aids saw coming, and the blogosphere is buzzing with speculation that the move was not so much due to White House aspirations, but because the Alaska Governor is facing federal indictment on embezzlement charges.
http://www.bittenandbound.com/2009/07/04/sarah-palin-federal-indictment/
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 5:58:28 PM
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Jack, by accepting McCain's VP bid Palin chose to be a national figure. No one thrust that role upon her.
Last I checked, the election was over in November; would someone tell the obsessed left?
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