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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 5:59:28 PM
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Lefties? From what I've seen the "Righties" are just as baffled and casting around for theories about her resignation -- the NRO Corner has been all about Palin the last couple of days. There is plenty of obsession to go around it seems.
Actually, from what I have read they are mostly reporting on what the lefties are saying.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 6:00:44 PM
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Palin’s resignation was a shocker that not even her family or closest aids saw coming, and the blogosphere is buzzing with speculation that the move was not so much due to White House aspirations, but because the Alaska Governor is facing federal indictment on embezzlement charges.
I think at this point one could posit just about any inane conspiratorial theory and the lefties would parrot it.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 7:58:11 PM
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Last I checked, the election was over in November; would someone tell the obsessed left?
Sure, the election is over, but Sarah Palin is still a national figure. Besides, I see her name bandied about by right-wing media sources (esp those who see her as the heir to Ronald Reagan) as much as lefty ones.
I'll also be the first to admit that Palin is an interesting and charismatic person, not to mention entertaining to watch most of the time - chiefly, for moments of political schauenfraude via (for example) her near-incomprehensible speech in Wasilla yesterday.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 9:15:00 PM
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I'll also be the first to admit that Palin is an interesting and charismatic person, not to mention entertaining to watch most of the time - chiefly, for moments of political schauenfraude via (for example) her near-incomprehensible speech in Wasilla yesterday.
Todd_t, you must have popped too many firecrackers, she was very plain in her speech; stated that she had accomplished everything that she promised to do. That was not going to run for a second term, and instead of being a lame duck govenor and just drawing monies from the State, she would let the Lt. Govenor take the reigns so he can get his feet wet and make a good run for govenor next time out.
Sounds like a plan to keep a Republican in the Govenor's mansion, and a very honorable thing to do.
Of course the normal thing for a politician to do would be to say in the postion and milk it for all it is worth, taking trips around the world at the State's expense, etc. etc.; but she is not the normal politician, is she?
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 9:44:08 PM
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As some how overlooked the Palin's are notr rich like the democrats Gore, Kerry, clintons, Obama's neither do they have a mega sugar daddy like
Soros backing them. With over a dozen legal accusation to defend themselves from, lawyers and their expenses required, they are OVER A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT. If you think that inconsequencial figure out how you would pay such a bill. Keep in mind the many times the democrats and their operatives play the poor me victim while they have nearly ALL THE POLITICAL POWER and figure out who they are playing for fools. The Palins have the whole of the democrats vying against them and poor support from the Republican party. Looks mighty lonely to me.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 10:14:33 PM
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Todd_t, you must have popped too many firecrackers, she was very plain in her speech
Then you, sir, are the first person I've run into with a favorable response to Palin's speech.
Even Palin backers I've read were laboring to follow her. It was like trying to follow a drunk driver on an ice slick.
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That was not going to run for a second term, and instead of being a lame duck govenor and just drawing monies from the State, she would let the Lt. Govenor take the reigns so he can get his feet wet and make a good run for govenor next time out.
Every elected official has to deal with lame duckhood. It's part of the job. If Palin didn't want to deal with it, she never should have run for governor.
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but she is not the normal politician, is she?
That goes without saying.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/4/2009 11:11:19 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090705/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resigning
Palin links resignation to 'higher calling'
JUNEAU, Alaska – Outgoing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on Saturday laid the groundwork to take on a larger, national role after leaving state government, citing a "higher calling" with the aim of uniting the country along conservative lines.
A day after surprising even her closest friends by announcing she would step down as Alaska governor more than a year before her term was up, the controversial hockey mom was still keeping details of her future plans under wrap. But in a statement posted on Palin's Facebook account, she suggested that she had bigger plans and a national agenda she planned to push after she resigns at the end of the month.
"I am now looking ahead and how we can advance this country together with our values of less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint," she said.
(see link for full article)
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 7:04:10 AM
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I think the reason why the left has a hard time with Palin's form of communication is...she is honest.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 7:27:49 AM
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It isn't just the left who had trouble understanding that speech.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 10:43:17 AM
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I'm not sure this is a good move on her part, especially if she's not running for anything in the interim.
Wonder if anyone at Air America or MSNBC was dancing in their office when this story came out?
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 11:04:29 AM
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Sarah Palin made a lot of vague comments in her speech. She gave no real indication as to what her real plans are or her intent. She gave no clear indications as to the actual reasons for her resignation. If we are to take her at her word, her comments sounded like a string of rationalizing, excuses. Imagine if Hilary Clinton had made such a speech. Even a casual examination of Hilary's career would reveal that she withstood as much or greater vilification at the hands of both the media and opponents. Yet she toughed it out. Palin's move is revealing of her character. There is nothing wrong with her resignation. I only fault her for her attempts at face saving rationalizing. A little humility would go a long way. A little introspective honesty would gain her some respect. Her career thus far is an interesting, volatile mix of naviete, hubris, opportunism and bumper sticker theology/idealogy. I just hope she runs for president and helps drive a wooden stake through the heart of the current floundering GOP to put it out of its misery. The nation still needs Palin to lure the base of the GOP into deep water where they can meet their political fate. Only then will they learn to grow up politically and learn not to be taken in by the manipulating hucksters who exploit their fear and faith.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 11:58:08 AM
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Sarah Palin made a lot of vague comments in her speech. She gave no real indication as to what her real plans are or her intent. She gave no clear indications as to the actual reasons for her resignation.
You dont know the reason behind her resigning, but that wont stop you from the following psychoanalysis will it 
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If we are to take her at her word, her comments sounded like a string of rationalizing, excuses.
Ahh, but you dont take her at her word because your smart and you know....what exactly?
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Imagine if Hilary Clinton had made such a speech. Even a casual examination of Hilary's career would reveal that she withstood as much or greater vilification at the hands of both the media and opponents. Yet she toughed it out
I didnt notice that Palin backed away from anything the media threw at her.
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Palin's move is revealing of her character. There is nothing wrong with her resignation. I only fault her for her attempts at face saving rationalizing.
Since you dont know why she resigned, she is saving face from, what?. Oh thats right, you dont know.
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A little humility would go a long way.
But your not about to model that for us are you
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A little introspective honesty would gain her some respect. Her career thus far is an interesting, volatile mix of naviete, hubris, opportunism and bumper sticker theology/idealogy.
A stunning statement about someone you have never met, and knowledge of could fit into perhaps 30 mins worth of sound bits.
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I just hope she runs for president and helps drive a wooden stake through the heart of the current floundering GOP to put it out of its misery. The nation still needs Palin to lure the base of the GOP into deep water where they can meet their political fate. Only then will they learn to grow up politically and learn not to be taken in by the manipulating hucksters who exploit their fear and faith.
Oh i see, your ultimate concern is for the overall well being of the GOP. Well, you can have them, take the Dems as well and keep your hope in politicians and parties where there are no solutions to mans problems. I dont care if Palin ever runs for office again, she is better off out of the sewer of politics. I hope she spends the rest of her life worshiping God and loving her husband and kids.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 11:58:49 AM
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Outgoing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on Saturday laid the groundwork to take on a larger, national role after leaving state government, citing a "higher calling" with the aim of uniting the country along conservative lines.
Translation = She's going to take a greater leadership role with her new PAC in Virginia.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 1:58:37 PM
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You dont know the reason behind her resigning, but that wont stop you from the following psychoanalysis will it
Sidian: No. It doesn't stop me. She is a voluntary, outspoken public figure. When she makes vague statements in the context of a highly unusual move, she is inviting speculation as to her motives. I am speculating as to her motives and mental intent in the absence of any clear information from her.
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Ahh, but you dont take her at her word because your smart and you know....what exactly?
Sidian: You will not that I said she "sounded like" she was rationalizing. That is my opinion. In the absence of a clear statement of her intent, again we must rely on the vague statements and attempt to read between the lines. In fact, to date she acknowledged the vagueness of her statements and urged us to "read between the lines". That is what I am doing. I didn't say I "knew".
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RF: I didnt notice that Palin backed away from anything the media threw at her.
Sidian: My opinion is that her thin-skinned agressive, whiney defensiveness is in fact a constant backpedaling from criticism, a lack of insight and skill, and ultimately self-defeating.
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Since you dont know why she resigned, she is saving face from, what?. Oh thats right, you dont know.
Sidian: Her resignation in and of itself requires an explanation. She is quitting on the people of Alaska. Her resignations provides no real facts and no clear statements of reasons or motivations. Thus, anything she has said appears to be an excuse, an evasion or a rationalization. She has created a vacuum. Thus, it give the appearance of attempting to "save face", a failure to come clean. I don't know what her motives are. She has created the problem. It appears that a real explanation might require some humilty on her part and some introspection. She has not exhibited this. She is trying to spin. She is wriggling on the hook. Painful to watch.
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But your not about to model that [humility] for us are you
I model humility the best I can. I am not a person who voluntarily enter the public sphere with the goal of saving America from evil.
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A stunning statement about someone you have never met, and knowledge of could fit into perhaps 30 mins worth of sound bits.
Sidian: You are easily "stunned" perhaps, though apparently not by Palin's antics. Palin has spoken, written and been interviewed on many occasions. She also have been talked about and written about by many that know her as well as those who have investigated her. I have read and watched much of the information available on her. I have seen her speak in person [for more than 30 min]. I have probably spent hours (too many) considering information from her and about her that is in the public record. I am expressing an opinion about her based on what I know.
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Oh i see, your ultimate concern is for the overall well being of the GOP. Well, you can have them, take the Dems as well and keep your hope in politicians and parties where there are no solutions to mans problems. I dont care if Palin ever runs for office again, she is better off out of the sewer of politics. I hope she spends the rest of her life worshiping God and loving her husband and kids.
Sidian: My ultimate concern is for the American people and indeed all the people of the earth. In that regard, I think that ultimate concern would be served by the continuing discrediting of the Republican party and particularly the right wing base. The nation and world would be better served by a more lucid and humane and effective Republican party which is needed to serve as a counter balance to the Democratic party. Those same concerns are probably also served by your apparent disaffection from the political process. I hope you can relax and have a pleasant week.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 2:29:26 PM
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I find it quite amazing that this thread has gotten 90 responses (so far) as the left is the ones that seems to keep this story going... why is that?
Could it be that she pulls 8% positive with GOP voters
and 47% approval rating with independent voters
....of course she gets "negatives" from those that identify themselves as Democratic voters.
Hmm. 
Actually, according to this opinion on Fox Republican News those on the left should be celebrating:
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No one has a stronger love/hate relationship among Republicans than Palin. The right wing loves her and what's left of responsible Republicans can't stand her. Her decision has ignited debate about her 2012 presidential ambition, a debate the GOP does not need at the moment.
I think I can speak for most Democrats in applauding Governor Palin's decision. Not only does it give the people of Alaska a chance to now get a real chief executive, it makes Palin along with Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, John Ensign, and a certain governor of South Carolina the public faces of the Republican Party. Who could ask for anything more?
Go for it Sarah! In fact please announce your candidacy for president as soon as possible. We Democrats want you front and center wherever and whenever Republicans gather. You, Sarah Palin, are truly the gift that keeps on giving. Our heartfelt thanks!
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/07/04/sarah-palin-gift-keeps-giving/
Sidian: As to LivingParadox's comment, the reason why liberals keep the story going is because Palin came within a hair's breadth of becoming vice-president of the U.S. and thus, a heart beat away from the Presidency, to the lasting shame of the republican party. People need to be reminded of this appalling close call. Those that "believe" in her need to see her go forward in her quest (for God knows what) and suffer further public rejection and humilation.
To RLJ: I think a Palin/Gingrich ticket would do wonders for the nation. Palin is vying with Rush Limbaugh for the head of the Republican Party. "You Go Girl!"
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 2:41:29 PM
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To RLJ: I think a Palin/Gingrich ticket would do wonders for the nation. Palin is vying with Rush Limbaugh for the head of the Republican Party. "You Go Girl!"
I was thinking Sanford/Gingrich running on a "The party of God and Family Values" platform.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 3:10:24 PM
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I bet more people know more of Palin today then they did Obama 3 1/2 years before the last election. Many politicians would kill for that advantage.
More people are talking about Palin today than Obama by far…talk about taking the limelight. It's not about who loves or hates her, it's those who she can influence along the way.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 3:27:34 PM
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Then you, sir, are the first person I've run into with a favorable response to Palin's speech.
Well sir, maybe I am the first person that listened to what she said without trying it thourgh a skewed lense or two of preconcieved or political ideology.
It was a really straithforward speech without a lot or any inuendos; which is one thing I really respect her for.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 3:34:29 PM
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With all due respect, who cares? I do not see this person as a viable candidate for senator or especially President of the United States. End of story.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 5:28:31 PM
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Let's just be honest hereabout Sarah Palin.
She became Governor of Alaska due to very fortunate (for her) political circumstances there.
She is just not a serious national political figure.
Hopefully she is doing the right thing for herself and her family by getting out of the spotlight.
I know I would.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 6:31:01 PM
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I think a Palin/Gingrich ticket would do wonders for the nation.
Were this to happen, leaving for Canada simply wouldn't be good enough for me. Mars or Jupiter might be a good start, though. I also hear Europa has some sweet real estate deals too (interest-free, with no money down).
Failing this, there's always the easy option of eating a shotgun.
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It was a really straithforward speech without a lot or any inuendos
RC, if you could follow Palin's speech from front to end with no problems then you are truly a mental giant compared to myself.
By comparison, I have less brain power than a sea urchin with a lobotomy.
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