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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 6:50:31 PM
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Lizahana
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How common is it for governors to quit so they can run for president?
I'm not sure how many governors have resigned in advance (of the election), but I think it's accepted practice after a governor formally declares he/she is running for President. Of course that is not the case here...with the campaign season over two years away.
Governor Bill Clinton did not resign until after he won the 1992 Presidential election (December).
I knew that they quit, once winning the seat they sought. But, I never heard of quitting before one has even made an announcement. I didn't think that was too common.
But who knows, maybe she's giving it all up. I can't say I'd blame her.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 6:58:05 PM
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Lefties? From what I've seen the "Righties" are just as baffled and casting around for theories about her resignation -- the NRO Corner has been all about Palin the last couple of days. There is plenty of obsession to go around it seems.
Actually, from what I have read they are mostly reporting on what the lefties are saying.
From what I've read, Republicans are pretty, well, confused as well, and opining this:
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Democrats left it to Republican and conservative voices to assess what Friday's unexpected announcement by Palin means for her and a possible run for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination. For example, Vice President Joe Biden called it a personal decision, offering no analysis of why she did it.
By contrast, those on the political right acknowledged that they didn't know what to make of it.
Karl Rove, the "architect" of George W. Bush's successful presidential campaigns, said the resignation left many of Palin's fellow Republicans "a little perplexed.""It's a risky strategy," Rove told "Fox News Sunday."
"Astounding," was the pronouncement by Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, and conservative columnist George Will said Palin was declaring herself a quitter. ..."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/05/palin.reaction/index.html
If it is because she's running for the 2012 bid for POTUS, I have never heard of a governor quitting their term before they even announced their run for POTUS.
Either way, I think it looks bad to the voters that voted her in as governor, expecting her to fullfill her duties. If it really was because of the stress on her family, that's all she had to say. But to say that it was somehow because it was the best thing to do for Alaska, um...huh? The best thing would be to stick by Alaska during hard times...
Just my two cents...
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 7:23:53 PM
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A little humility would go a long way.
Can you give an example of a little humility from some politician of the left?
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 10:02:53 PM
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After the campaign, can you blame Palin for wanting to get out of the spotlight?
The no basis law suits costing her over 500 thousand dollars.
The vicious unfounded attacks.
The butt of liberal joksters...including her family.
Accomplishing her goals she set out as governor.
If you were the focus of liberal hatred, you would want to get out of the spotlight as well....esspecially the unfettered liberals of today, giddy over their new found power.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 10:38:36 PM
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Soninme's post covered some things I was thinking about so I'm going to dissect it for that reason.
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After the campaign, can you blame Palin for wanting to get out of the spotlight?
If this is the reason than she is every bit "not quite ready for prime time" as her critics have stated. Republicans get the shaft from the media like road teams get the shaft from officials in sports. It's to be expected.
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The no basis law suits costing her over 500 thousand dollars.
The vicious unfounded attacks.
The butt of liberal joksters...including her family.
I agree with you for the most part on all three. I wish in this country there was a way to recoup your legal fees when you have to defend yourself against unwarranted attacks.
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Accomplishing her goals she set out as governor.
I would have thought serving her terms would be important goals to. Many states in the US also have term limits and I am not aware of any governor bailing out at any point during their last term because they would be "lame duck". At this point she is starting to remind me of Ross Perot in '92.
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It actually means Sarah Palin is doig GREAT with Independents who usually determine any election.
Who did those votes go to last November?
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 11:27:20 PM
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Republicans get the shaft from the media like road teams get the shaft from officials in sports. It's to be expected.
I have to disagree with you here, rlj.
Remember the months after 9-11, and the run-up to the Iraq War? Much of the media couldn't roll over for Bush fast enough, seemingly because they feared being cast as unpatriotic or not supporting US armed forces in their missions. It was only after Bush's "Mission Accomplished" PR debacle and matter of the phantom WMDs that some in the media finally began to question Team Dubya and its designs for going into Iraq.
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It actually means Sarah Palin is doig GREAT with Independents who usually determine any election.
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Who did those votes go to last November?
Now here, I agree with you 100%.
Indie voters fled the GOP last fall like rats from a sugar cane fire, and have shown no dramatic signs of changing their minds. And even if they were, the next election is three and a half years out so any 2012-centered polling right now is pretty useless.
Right now, Sarah Palin is a political landmine in her own party. One whom many stalwart Republicans don't want to be anywhere near due to her unpredictability.
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Any how, Sarah Palin has dominated the new channels this weekend
She's a very interesting public figure, but one whose popularity (IMO) is grounded on quicksand.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 11:30:51 PM
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Wow. Let see the axis of evil.... WMD ....who were those names, let's see Iraq, Iran and Korea? hmm. so how did Iran and Korea get all those nuclear ambitions?
Any how, Sarah Palin has dominated the new channels this weekend ...and look 108 posts...
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/5/2009 11:55:45 PM
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It was only after Bush's "Mission Accomplished" PR debacle
In reality, the PR in the immediate aftermath of of the "Mission Accomplished" statement was GREAT. George Bush looked great in a pilot's suit, not the way Mike Dukakis had looked in a tanker's suit. The only people who thought that "Mission Accomplished" was a debacle at the time was the extreme left.
The glow on "Mission Accomplished" didn't start to fade until many months later, when the insurgency began to take its toll, and when extreme disunity in Iraqi politics began to show that the fundamental problem in Iraq was not a military problem after all.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 9:09:44 AM
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Right now, Sarah Palin is a political landmine in her own party. One whom many stalwart Republicans don't want to be anywhere near due to her unpredictability.
Actually it's due to the fact that she's a CONSERVATIVE. Something the GOP abandoned in the last few years.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 9:12:58 AM
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Remember the months after 9-11, and the run-up to the Iraq War? Much of the media couldn't roll over for Bush fast enough, seemingly because they feared being cast as unpatriotic or not supporting US armed forces in their missions. It was only after Bush's "Mission Accomplished" PR debacle and matter of the phantom WMDs that some in the media finally began to question Team Dubya and its designs for going into Iraq.
He had an awful lot of political capital from that. There were some on the left- entertainer types who were endorsing him in '04 also since Kerry was such an awful nominee. At least BO appears to be a leader. Overall though I do believe the edge on the media goes to the left.
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The only people who thought that "Mission Accomplished" was a debacle at the time was the extreme left.
Those of us who listened to Bush, Powell, and Cheney knew the second Iraq war would be a debacle. Those of us who listened in 1991 that is.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 9:57:47 AM
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Those of us who listened to Bush, Powell, and Cheney knew the second Iraq war would be a debacle. Those of us who listened in 1991 that is.
Back to the topic...
The FBI is now squashing rumors (typical left-wing rumors, repeated here of course) that it is investingating Palin on public corruption charges:
The FBI, in a rare response to rampant rumors on the Internet, said it is not investigating Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin on public corruption charges.
Alaska's Sarah Palin is stepping down as governor at the end of the month.
"Normally, we don't confirm or deny those kind of allegations out there. But, by not doing so, it just casts her in a very bad light," said FBI Special Agent Eric Gonzalez, who confirmed for CNN the statement he made to the Anchorage Daily News. "There is just no truth to those rumors out there in the blogosphere."
Gonzalez told The Los Angeles Times that there was "no wiggle room" in his comments for any kind of inquiry.
The speculation began almost immediately after Palin's unexpected announcement on Friday that she would step down as Alaska's chief executive with 18 months left in her term.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 11:16:34 AM
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I'm kinda scratching my head over this move by Princess Palin. On the surface it looks like a knee-jerk reaction. But surely there is a real plan, like a Senatorial run. It would help her cause to come out with something soon.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 11:37:01 AM
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But surely there is a real plan, like a Senatorial run.
I doubt that, Cow, for the following reasons:
a) Palin seems to be the kind of personality that likes being out in front, but in the US Senate she'd be just one voice among a hundred;
b) Palin would have to beat Lisa Murkowsky in a GOP Senate primary, and;
c) Why would Alaskans support Palin for Senate when she just bailed on her commitment as governor? What if she were elected, and decided to pull the same ripcord after three years? Last week's decision demonstrates that Palin sorely lacks a sense of follow-thru.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 1:06:17 PM
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Well since we are into the fantasy conspiracy realm; how about a Ron Paul/Sarah Palin ticket for 2012.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 1:15:08 PM
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But surely there is a real plan, like a Senatorial run.
I doubt that, Cow, for the following reasons:
a) Palin seems to be the kind of personality that likes being out in front, but in the US Senate she'd be just one voice among a hundred;
And she admitted herself that she doesn't need a title in front of her name to advance change in America because....?
Think back to a CA senator who recently pouted like a little child because a life long honorable military general didn't call her "senator".
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b) Palin would have to beat Lisa Murkowsky in a GOP Senate primary, and;
Lisa who?????
Might as well call her candidate x'sky.
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c) Why would Alaskans support Palin for Senate when she just bailed on her commitment as governor? What if she were elected, and decided to pull the same ripcord after three years? Last week's decision demonstrates that Palin sorely lacks a sense of follow-thru.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 1:27:15 PM
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This reminds me, I haven't rented Idiocracy in a while. Major score for AK residents.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 1:33:22 PM
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I think the thing that is being ignored here is that in this case Palin represents an extremely rare case, so rare in fact that people on the right and left don't know what to make of it. She represents a politician who walked away from power, and in this day of politicians doing anything and everything to gain power (see our current President), a case where one abdicates it when it he/she isn't forced to is seen as negligent - because after all, isn't the purpose of politics to amass more power for oneself and one's supporters?
After all, no one on the left complained that Obama left his position as a Senator for Illinois after only two years in office, because he was doing so to amass more power for himself and the left; in that case, being bereft of duty is acceptable.
Rather a sad commentary on us as a society I would say.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 3:07:01 PM
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I think the thing that is being ignored here is that in this case Palin represents an extremely rare case, so rare in fact that people on the right and left don't know what to make of it. She represents a politician who walked away from power, and in this day of politicians doing anything and everything to gain power (see our current President), a case where one abdicates it when it he/she isn't forced to is seen as negligent - because after all, isn't the purpose of politics to amass more power for oneself and one's supporters?
After all, no one on the left complained that Obama left his position as a Senator for Illinois after only two years in office, because he was doing so to amass more power for himself and the left; in that case, being bereft of duty is acceptable.
Rather a sad commentary on us as a society I would say.
Well, it was certainly no secret that The Great One had presidential ambitions. And no Illini felt betrayed. I hope she sits out 2012 (she can still raise lots of $$$$). Her best shot is 2016, IMO.
BTW, I really do wish she would put a lid on the whining.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 3:21:49 PM
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Jhud
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Well, it was certainly no secret that The Great One had presidential ambitions. And no Illini felt betrayed. I hope she sits out 2012 (she can still raise lots of $$$$). Her best shot is 2016, IMO.
BTW, I really do wish she would put a lid on the whining.
Actually, I have found that it is mostly her detractors who have done the 'whining'. Wonderful piece from the NYT's that I think fairly represents my views:
That last statistic is a crucial one. Palin’s popularity has as much to do with class as it does with ideology. In this sense, she really is the perfect foil for Barack Obama. Our president represents the meritocratic ideal — that anyone, from any background, can grow up to attend Columbia and Harvard Law School and become a great American success story. But Sarah Palin represents the democratic ideal — that anyone can grow up to be a great success story without graduating from Columbia and Harvard.
This ideal has had a tough 10 months. It’s been tarnished by Palin herself, obviously. With her missteps, scandals, dreadful interviews and self-pitying monologues, she’s botched an essential democratic role — the ordinary citizen who takes on the elites, the up-by-your-bootstraps role embodied by politicians from Andrew Jackson down to Harry Truman.
But it’s also been tarnished by the elites themselves, in the way that the media and political establishments have treated her.
Here are lessons of the Sarah Palin experience, for any aspiring politician who shares her background and her sex. Your children will go through the tabloid wringer. Your religion will be mocked and misrepresented. Your political record will be distorted, to better parody your family and your faith. (And no, gentle reader, Palin did not insist on abstinence-only sex education, slash funds for special-needs children or inject creationism into public schools.)
Male commentators will attack you for parading your children. Female commentators will attack you for not staying home with them. You’ll be sneered at for how you talk and how many colleges you attended. You’ll endure gibes about your “slutty” looks and your “white trash concupiscence,” while a prominent female academic declares that your “greatest hypocrisy” is the “pretense” that you’re a woman. And eight months after the election, the professionals who pressed you into the service of a gimmicky, dreary, idea-free campaign will still be blaming you for their defeat.
All of this had something to do with ordinary partisan politics. But it had everything to do with Palin’s gender and her social class.
Sarah Palin is beloved by millions because her rise suggested, however temporarily, that the old American aphorism about how anyone can grow up to be president might actually be true.
But her unhappy sojourn on the national stage has had a different moral: Don’t even think about it.
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RE: GOP/CNN: Sarah Palin Will Not Seek Re-Election as A... - 7/6/2009 3:27:31 PM
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I'm not surprised by what she did, the way she has handled things since she's been in the national spotlight, shows she's does and says alot of irrational things. HWhat's going on, just a few weeks ago one Republican governor up and left his position without notifying anyone and leaving anyone in charge and only came back when it was becoming a national story (he had planned a 10 day trip), and another Republican governor who is up and leaving her position when she hasn't served the full term she was elected for and is giving very weird and vauge reasons, but this all putting country first I suppose since that's what the Republicans talk about all the time along with them being the ones with family values and morally superior as well, yeah right.
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