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Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/22/2009 10:29:43 AM
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So, how do you feel about this? You will possibly have your tax money going to pay for abortions. It's ridiculous in my opinion. Obviously it's wrong and they shouldn't have it anywhere in my opinion, but to have to make people that are against it pay for it?
How do you feel?
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/22/2009 12:25:12 PM
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Though this bothers me to no end to say: Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and God that which is God's. Pay your tax's like a good little citizen. Pray that God come soon, to close out this sinful era, putrefying the end of the Church Age. Fear not, I pray, we do not have long to wait for that Cleansing.
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/22/2009 12:32:53 PM
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Though this bothers me to no end to say: Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and God that which is God's. Pay your tax's like a good little citizen. Pray that God come soon, to close out this sinful era, putrefying the end of the Church Age. Fear not, I pray, we do not have long to wait for that Cleansing.
In Messiah. Arley
So it's a basically a, 'suck it up and follow the law, we will be cleansed soon' kinda thing. Yep, I guess there isn't much we can do about it.
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/22/2009 12:47:05 PM
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When most of the world population is blind, most of the world population works in the dark, Spiritually speaking, that is. Come soon Lord Jesus, we are too near the ditch.
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/22/2009 12:53:15 PM
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WholeHeart
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There's a petition you can sign....
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/22/2009 4:32:53 PM
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There's a petition you can sign....
Link please...
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/23/2009 12:27:22 AM
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navyblueret
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WholeHeart, Shalom.
I just filed my name with the Protest. I also am sending out this address to all my e-mail group. Maybe we can get a few more names on the list.
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/23/2009 3:46:02 AM
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So, how do you feel about this?
I find it horrifying.
But, my tax dollars are also going to help single moms who didn't abort their babies, via welfare. Im trying to look on the positive side, since there's not much I can do to change the government's plans, other than sign the petition.
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/23/2009 9:17:41 AM
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So, how do you feel about this?
I find it horrifying.
But, my tax dollars are also going to help single moms who didn't abort their babies, via welfare.
Your tax dollars also have gone to/are going to warlords, drug traffickers, and oppressive dictators that are allegedly helping us fight terrorists (in the past, they helped us fight communism). Your tax dollars have gone to/are going to fight wars that are based on economic interests rather than defense of the needy.
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/23/2009 12:46:50 PM
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Don't they already? Pubic Aid recipiants can get an abortion and as far as I know my tax dollars pay for this now.
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/23/2009 5:30:48 PM
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"We cannot support any health care reform proposal unless it explicitly excludes abortion from the scope of any government-defined or subsidized health insurance plan,"
The bill does not mention abortion. It doesn't say anything about any proceedure that will or won't be covered.
It's absurd to say that a bill has to specifically exclude it, when the bill doesn't include it in the first place.
Besides, the article says federal law already "prohibits government funds from being used to pay for the procedure in most cases." So how could the gov't's proposed healt plan include abortion without violating that existing law?
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/23/2009 6:37:07 PM
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The bill does not mention abortion. It doesn't say anything about any proceedure that will or won't be covered.
It's absurd to say that a bill has to specifically exclude it, when the bill doesn't include it in the first place.
Besides, the article says federal law already "prohibits government funds from being used to pay for the procedure in most cases." So how could the gov't's proposed healt plan include abortion without violating that existing law?
hmmm...if this is true, one wonders why the President didn't simply just say this in his recent interview:
Katie Couric: Do you favor a government option that would cover abortions?
President Obama: What I think is important, at this stage, is not trying to micromanage what benefits are covered. Because I think we're still trying to get a framework. And my main focus is making sure that people have the options of high quality care at the lowest possible price.
As you know, I'm pro choice. But I think we also have a tradition of, in this town, historically, of not financing abortions as part of government funded health care. Rather than wade into that issue at this point, I think that it's appropriate for us to figure out how to just deliver on the cost savings, and not get distracted by the abortion debate at this station.
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/24/2009 1:18:52 PM
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By the way, Jesus paid taxes. I doubt everything that government did with tax money was something He approved of. Therefore, since Jesus never sinned (though He did pay taxes to a government that probably didn't make the best use of that money), there is no moral imputation on us for what the government does with our taxes (unless, of course, we support bad uses with our votes, etc.). So as long as we do what we can to prevent it, even if our money does end up paying for abortions, our consciences can be clear.
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RE: Abortions in new Healthcare plan, paid by taxpayers? - 7/24/2009 4:12:54 PM
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"Rather than wade into that issue at this point, I think that it's appropriate for us to figure out how to just deliver on the cost savings and not get distracted by the abortion debate," the president said in an interview with CBS News.
I love how easily he can avoid the questions given.
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My feeling is as long as no money goes directly from my hand to that which I find unacceptable, I am good.
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