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lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania gunma... - 8/5/2009 9:49:04 PM
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dinita777
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I'm sure by now everyone has heard about this guy........It just made me think about my situation as a single (who has never had a date) compared to this sad,violent man.
I have to admit that for a moment I felt like Oh no please don't let that be me... lonely and alone and becoming more and more bitter as the years go by!
But God spoke to my heart and I started counting all the ways that I am a different kind of single (who has never had a date or had sex for that matter LOL) I have the Lord as my savior, I have wonderful loving parents, I have friends of all kinds, I have a wonderful church and pastor.
For this man, death and destruction was the way out. For me, to live is Christ, and to die ( when God wills) is gain.
Singleness can be tough at times especially in this society but to live as a single without the Lord????? I can't even imagine a life like that.
sorry for babbling on and on....just had to get that off my chest
God bless........
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/5/2009 10:32:35 PM
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It seems to me that the shooter had a lot more serious problems than loneliness. Not everyone who's angry and bitter goes out and commits murder and suicide.
I've never been married and I haven't been on a date in years. Sometimes I get upset about my circumstances. However, opening fire on an aerobics class or anyplace else would be the farthest thing from my mind.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/6/2009 8:00:31 AM
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I think it's an excuse. There are many people who have never dated, never been kissed...whatever and they don't go around shooting people.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/6/2009 8:36:03 AM
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I don't know if anyone here has read his blog I did last night at work and it really disturbed me because that so easily could have been me.I am only a year older than he was but I can so relate to some of the frustration he put down.I know he had other issues as well that were evident in his writings,But i can't help but think that if he had had a group of friends he could vent to or just cry on their shoulders for a lil bit it might not have come to that.An old quote just came to mind"be kinder than necessary for every one is fighting some kind of battle".And I think if he had had at least one friend he could really confide in it would have made all the difference in the world.God I am so blessed I have 2
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/6/2009 9:07:39 AM
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Prairiehiker
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I don't know if anyone here has read his blog I did last night at work and it really disturbed me because that so easily have been me.I am only a year older than he was but I can so relate to some of the frustration he put down.I know he had other issues as well that were evident in his writings,But i can't help but think that if he had had a group of friends he could vent to or just cry on their shoulders for a lil bit it might not have come to that.An old quote just came to mind"be kinder than necessary for every one is fighting some kind of battle".And I think if he had had at least one friend he could really confide in it would have made all the difference in the world.God I am so blessed I have 2
I agree with you. It's amazing what one good friend can do to a person. I don't excuse what he did, but I feel sad for him and for people like him. Things like this teaches me to put more effort in being kind to people because I don't know what kind of battle they're facing and one never knows what little kindness can do to transform a person's heart. I guess I've been there and I'm thankful for my friends who are truly there for me.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/6/2009 11:45:45 AM
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If we, as "Christians", in these very threads can say hateful, demeaning and demoralizing things about one another I can not even begin to fathom what this man went through.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/7/2009 1:44:16 AM
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I think it's an excuse. There are many people who have never dated, never been kissed...whatever and they don't go around shooting people.
Exactly I am 34 been on one date. Never been kissed. And I have never shot anyone.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/7/2009 1:56:10 AM
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When I read his blog, two things jumped out to me. First, he made the error in assuming that if ONLY he had someone of the opposite sex, life would be good. The reality is, this is so false. If this were true, we wouldn't have so many divorces. But even more importantly, it elevates the opposite sex into a place where only God can be. Only God can make us TRULY happy. He was seeking happiness and valuation from the girls and he wasn't getting it. Needless to say, when he let the opposite sex set his self-esteem and self-worth, this is where you end up. Oh, not everyone will wind up shooting people, of course. But the net effect, the destination, is the same.
Second, everyone seeks fulfillment. Some seek it in sex, others in drugs, others in money. What he realized was that what the world preaches as bringing you happiness doesn't, which is better than much of the world out there now that believes it brings you happiness. Where he went wrong is in believing that because these things didn't bring him happiness, therefore, God wouldn't either. This is a world living in the time of Ecclesiastes. As the saying goes: "There are only two things leading to unhappiness: one is not getting what you want, and the other is getting it."
Much of today's nonChristian world believes, like he did, that if only they had that something, that would make them happy. And the net result is ultimately despair. This is where we Christians need to step in at just the right time and draw the RIGHT conclusion from these premises. "Yes, money and sex and fame will not bring you happiness. You're right about that. But God will give you life...eternally, and that you may have it to the full (John 10:10)."
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/7/2009 8:28:05 PM
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I really feel for this guy that could've been me too. You know the women who rejected him they're not even worth having as friends either.This was what happens when you let sorry execuses for human beings(the women who rejected him)get the better of you.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/7/2009 9:27:53 PM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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Would someone please supply some links to either the story itself, the man's blog or both?
Thanks.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/8/2009 3:09:51 PM
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This was what happens when you let sorry execuses for human beings(the women who rejected him)get the better of you.
Those words are a little strong. However everyone is entitled to there own opinions. =) I have rejected a Man that fits this exact Mans description. (we dated for a year) OR let me say HE thinks I have rejected him. I love God with all my heart, mind, body and soul. However he is not exactly marriage material. I broke it off with him Easter weekend. After he told me he would embarrass me in front of my church friends... if I didn't stop socializing so much with them after church. He said he was NOT the social type. I still love this man in my heart. However I know he is NOT the one for me. He seems to understand the reason why...however he still feels some what rejected. I have tried to be a light to this man for this VERY reason. I KNOW he is capable of killing people in a minute. He has told me on NUMEROUS occasions how his boss at work is mistreating him. I understand he has a hard boss and a VERY hard job! However that gives him NO right to talk about carrying a gun in his lunch bag to shoot his boss. (GET A NEW JOB, is what I tell him) I'm sorry but I use to be married to a police officer and have been a christian for many years. This man needs help! I have tried to council with him MANY times. I have pleaded with him to pray to the Lord for encouragement and help. I told him with all this anger he is dealing with inside, it needs to be dealt with. I told him ppl shoot people every single day and end up ruining there lives and others. He has to deal with the thoughts the enemy of his soul is putting in his mind!!! When this man in PA shot all the ladies in the gym...Guess who was the first person I emailed the article to?? Yes, my ex bf. When he replied to my email. he underlined in the email how this man was lonely and had no one. I'm praying for my my ex bf DAILY. However my family does not want me to hang around him too much. (I can understand why) He has done several other things to justify why they feel it's unsafe for me. However I still talk to him. (just so he will have someone to talk to) You have NO idea what other people go through in there lives. Yes, this man is wrong but everyone handles stress in total different ways. Maybe you did not have issues like others had growing up as a child. Maybe it's a much older pain that is lurking in their heart of deception. I know that people like this are wrong. However they do not need judgment (especially if you have not walked in there shoes) They need the love of God. To show them there is more to life then the acceptance of people. They need to know that God loves them and cares for them. They need Christians to show them the way! They are starving for the real love of God! Please keep my ex in your prayers. Pray God will restore to him joy and that he may truly know God in an intimate way! Thanks for listening to me! Have a great day! =) 
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/8/2009 3:38:08 PM
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Hello i,m the guy that posted the remark your're responding to please accept my most humble apology if i offended you in any way.I,m also sorry to hear your relationship with this man did'nt work out. I will most definitely pray for your friend. my e-mail is zosorubbersoul@yahoo.com if you would like to respond.PGIRL35
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/8/2009 9:05:25 PM
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really feel for this guy that could've been me too. You know the women who rejected him they're not even worth having as friends either.This was what happens when you let sorry execuses for human beings(the women who rejected him)get the better of you.
Your comment is disturbing.. How do you know anything about the women in his life? Even If the women were terrible it doesn't give him an excuse to murder them or anyone else. He was seriously deranged.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/9/2009 6:05:06 PM
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johnny103068
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Hello i,m the guy that posted the remark your're responding to please accept my most humble apology if i offended you in any way.I,m also sorry to hear your relationship with this man did'nt work out. I will most definitely pray for your friend. my e-mail is zosorubbersoul@yahoo.com if you would like to respond.PGIRL35
Do you not want PGIRL35 to respond in this thread, johnny10368?
She can respond if she wants to.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/9/2009 6:06:21 PM
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johnny103068
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really feel for this guy that could've been me too. You know the women who rejected him they're not even worth having as friends either.This was what happens when you let sorry execuses for human beings(the women who rejected him)get the better of you.
Your comment is disturbing.. How do you know anything about the women in his life? Even If the women were terrible it doesn't give him an excuse to murder them or anyone else. He was seriously deranged.
I beg your pardon? 
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/9/2009 6:11:11 PM
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johnny103068
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Besides instead of attacking me for my opinions how about we pray for the families who had to bury loved ones who were lost in this terrible tradgedy and for the family of the gunman too.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/9/2009 7:24:01 PM
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johnny103068
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I've seen some of the ramblings some made absolutely no sense at all.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/9/2009 10:08:47 PM
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really feel for this guy that could've been me too. You know the women who rejected him they're not even worth having as friends either.This was what happens when you let sorry execuses for human beings(the women who rejected him)get the better of you.
Your comment is disturbing.. How do you know anything about the women in his life? Even If the women were terrible it doesn't give him an excuse to murder them or anyone else. He was seriously deranged.
On a strictly disinterested level, that is, I have no horse in this race, a woman who rejects a man is not worth having as his friend.
Here's why. The man still has romantic feelings for her. If she continues hanging around it's like rubbing salt in a wound. Every time he starts to heal and get over her she does something nice again and bang, there goes the heart getting ripped open again. It;'s better for both parties to totally shun each other at least fro a few months so that people can heal and move on in their lives
After all, if she doesn't think you're good enough to marry why would you want to waste time with her anyway? Time that could better be spent with a owman who does think you are good enough to marry.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/10/2009 2:44:51 AM
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I haven't read his blog but I do know that everyone handles things differently. Singlesness can take you to places you never thought you would go whether its an outward action towards others or hardness or bitterness or spitefulness in your heart were no one sees. It can affect you if you let it. Singleness without God is hard just as anything in life without God is hard. The lesson to be learned is that we as singles especially those who struggle with it need to seek God diligently for his help in coping and getting through a time in our lives that does not make us very happy. W
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On a strictly disinterested level, that is, I have no horse in this race, a woman who rejects a man is not worth having as his friend.
Here's why. The man still has romantic feelings for her. If she continues hanging around it's like rubbing salt in a wound. Every time he starts to heal and get over her she does something nice again and bang, there goes the heart getting ripped open again. It;'s better for both parties to totally shun each other at least fro a few months so that people can heal and move on in their lives
After all, if she doesn't think you're good enough to marry why would you want to waste time with her anyway? Time that could better be spent with a owman who does think you are good enough to marry.
I agree giving someone space to get over feelings is a good thing but I don't agree with the rest. Why is being someones friend a waste of time. So you weren't her cup of tea, that doesn't mean she isn't worth having as a friend. Are you worthless as a friend to a woman who became attracted to you but you did not reciprocate. Of course not.
I have been into a guy and he not be in to me and still we became friends. To say that a person isn't worth your time unless they like you back says that you think you are too good and better than that. How dare they reject you, YOU of all people. We should never think so highly of oursleves. Not everyone in this world that we like will like us back and they don't have to.
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RE: lessons from the "lonely, angry pennsalvania g... - 8/10/2009 6:09:18 AM
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On a strictly disinterested level, that is, I have no horse in this race, a woman who rejects a man is not worth having as his friend.
Here's why. The man still has romantic feelings for her. If she continues hanging around it's like rubbing salt in a wound. Every time he starts to heal and get over her she does something nice again and bang, there goes the heart getting ripped open again. It;'s better for both parties to totally shun each other at least fro a few months so that people can heal and move on in their lives
After all, if she doesn't think you're good enough to marry why would you want to waste time with her anyway? Time that could better be spent with a owman who does think you are good enough to marry.
Wow!
If the guy still has feelings for her and can't get over them he is weak and emotionally immature. You are right in the fact that a guy who behaves likes this should stay away from her and perhaps from women in general until he gets his head together.
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