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RE: Christmas only for Turkeys? - 11/3/2009 7:41:38 AM
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We do like Jesus did - celbrate Chanukkah. BTW, did God decree that feast of dedication, or did man? Other than a brief note about the particular time, I'm not sure it is clear that Jesus celebrated Chanukkah. But if He did, as your question intimates, He certainly wasn't stuck on celebrating a limited set of observances. And as the only One worthy of our complete devotion and worship, the risen Lord and the heavenly Father very likely welcomes our celebration of the Incarnation.
Since He was in the temple (the focus of Chanukkah) during that feast (Jn 10.22-23) it would be very likely he was taking part in the festivities. John, who did not give that many chronological clues, specifically noted the Feast of Dedication (Chanukkah). In the places where he did mention a feast, there was a purpose so his mention of the celebration makes it important to what the apostle is saying, whether we understand that or not.
There is no biblical mandate to celebrate Chanukkah, as it came during the intertestamental period. I am not sure that even in the books of Maccabees in certain cannons that a requirement is put forth to celebrate this. So I would classify it as a man-made celebration. IMO, that does not make it something to be ignored.
Similarly there is no command to celebrate Christmas or Easter. (Passover is another story) I agree with Euty that I see nowhere that says God does not accept our praise and celebration of any of these events; His Death and Resurrection, His birth, the cleansing of the temple from idol worship.
I see ANY victory of God over the forces of evil as celebration-worthy.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 7:46:36 AM
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bummer...I was just thinking how cool a sci-fi Chrstmas tree would be as well as outside lighting decorations and all that...
Decorate Your Spaceship For Less Here!
Take a look at the christmas trees of the '50 and the decorations. They look quite Trekky!
LOL that's right! The silver trees and the rotating lightwheel! LOL
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 9:09:10 AM
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Take a look at the christmas trees of the '50 and the decorations. They look quite Trekky! LOL that's right! The silver trees and the rotating lightwheel! LOL And they wondered why so many in my generation went for LSD and other psycodelic drugs.....
"Wow man, lookatda lights!!! Fa-a-a-ar out!"
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 5:37:07 PM
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Hi everyone, I am joining late in the discussion and did not have enough time to read trough all the posts.
But here are my two cents.
I believe that if Christmas was so worthy to be celebrated, our Saviour would have told us to do it.
Nowere in the bible it is written to celebrate Christ's birth.
In a lot of places is mentioned to celebrate His death, or proclaim His death till He comes.
In Jeremiah, He is specific:
"Hear you the word which the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel:
Thus says the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the HEATHEN are dismayed at them.
For the customs of the people are vain (Heb. a delusion) for one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax.
They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and hammers, that it move not.
They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne because it cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good." Jer10:2-5
In my house we do not celebrate Cristhmas. This is the second year.
It was dificult because of my 11 year old. But he understood, and now he's ok with it.
How are we sepatated from the world?
Beside the fact that is a pagan religion attached to the name of Christ, He was not even born on Dec.
The sheppards were in the field when the angel came to bring the good news. The sheppards are never in the field in December.
It is estimated that He was born on Sept. 29, give or take one day.
I'm not trying to insult anybody, but we must follow what the Word says.
A little leaven.....
Even in the garden the serpent said: is ok you can do it, is good for food, pleasant to the eye, good to make one wise....
Hm...
Think of it my brothers and sisters!
It is ok, it is harmless, it is good, it is about Christ. We keep telling ourselves that to rationalize our reasons.
Or we just don't want to let go of traditions of man.
In Galatians, Paul speaking to Jews:
"You observe days, and months, and times and years.
I am afraid for you, lest I have besyow upon you labor in vain." Gal.4:10,11
As true as it is that he was talking about Jews continuing to observe the Law, it can be also true for us observing the same traditions as before.
You have liberty in Christ to do as you please, it is soo true.
But at least consider and ponder on this for a while.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 5:47:12 PM
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Jer was talking about making false gods out of trees.
Where does it specify in scripture that we cannot set a new observance?
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 5:58:12 PM
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My liberty, however, is severely hampered by the assault of Christmas!  Even some of you who truly love Christmas fuss about how early they bring all the stuff out and many of you get quite sick of the Christmas music starting on November 1st and continuing until January 1st -- for 2 Stinkin' Months! So I, as one who does not observe Christmas, get all the more tired of its assault.
Regardless, while I want to shorten the word Christmas down to a better manageable word, Xmas, I don't do it because I know that is offensive to SOME believers -- the ones who don't understand what Xmas means historically.
And when I go shopping, I am nice about being assaulted by all the reindeer paws on your roof tops, about santa flitting from chimney to chimney, and about all the declarations that it is Messiah's birthday. When someone wishes me a merry Christmas, and I respond with a cheery "And a happy Chanukkah to you!" some are merry back, while others jump down my throat.
I am assaulted by believers who think I am pagan to not celebrate Christmas and easter, and told that we are both stingy and sticks-in-the-mud, or we would be observing them both. Well, Messiah didn't celebrate them either.
Well, thank G-d, most of the people on CW over the latter years are nice about it and no longer assault. We meet each other around this time of the year with humor, and most of us kid each other with genuine humor about our differences while still having serious conversations about what we think.
But this is an example of the junk I put up with already:
So Sunday, I went to a pro-life demonstration. It was a little hectic, because there was some harassment by the pro-death group and because the starting point of the demonstration wasn't clear in the brochure. But wow, did I meet some great people! It was a good time.
Afterward, I hopped in my car to start home. My radio came on. It was a very badly sung and written Christmas song by a once-popular Christian singer -- one of those I could tell was written just to get something on the market. And when it was over, they announced that they were now playing Christmas songs! Last Sunday! November 1st! So no more Christian music for me for the next two months.
I switched it to the classical station to give my ears a rest. And when that piece was over, the announcer diD aN aD foR planneD parenthooD. STINKIN'!!!
Fortunately, G-d invented CDs.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 6:40:45 PM
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I am assaulted by believers who think I am pagan to not celebrate Christmas and Easter, and told that we are both stingy and sticks-in-the-mud, or we would be observing them both. Well, Messiah didn't celebrate them either.
Well, thank G-d, most of the people on CW over the latter years are nice about it and no longer assault. We meet each other around this time of the year with humor, and most of us kid each other with genuine humor about our differences while still having serious conversations about what we think.
I have no doubt that you have been called pagan--just sayin-- but here in the forums it is the no Christmas/Easter crowd that hollers "pagan!" in nearly every post on the subject. Very tiresome.
I see Christmas as a faith centered season AND a cultural holiday. I enjoy both aspects of it.
Chanakkuh wasn't a God mandated observance. Just sayin. We don't really know what Jesus would have done in our culture re various holidays. I have a hard time imagining taking the Christian message out of Christmas in our culture. Why would we want to remove the gospel from December as it annually appears?
Paul looked at the unknown god and said, hey I know the the God, let me tell you about Him. So if once upon a time, some believers said hey, we know the Sun of righteousness in whom is no shadow...well it doesn't seem inappropriate to me.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 7:27:14 PM
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I am assaulted by believers who think I am pagan to not celebrate Christmas and Easter, and told that we are both stingy and sticks-in-the-mud, or we would be observing them both. Well, Messiah didn't celebrate them either.
I have no doubt that you have been called pagan--just sayin-- but here in the forums it is the no Christmas/Easter crowd that hollers "pagan!" in nearly every post on the subject. Very tiresome. Yes, but I am showing that it goes both ways. Christmas-observers get tired of the assult, but we get tired of it also.
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Chanakkuh wasn't a God mandated observance. Just sayin. I believe that any adult who observes Chanukkah knows this. We know which orservances are commanded. 
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We don't really know what Jesus would have done in our culture re various holidays. . . .
Waaalll, I think I do. I believe that most Christians observe as religious days the following:
• Most get 52 Sundays off, and some do not work on those days
• Easter with most having a Sunday off
• Thanksgiving Day with a Thursday for most
• Christmas with that day off for most
• + all the other American (in the U.S.A.) national days off
We who are Torah observant have it a bit different. We have these commanded holy days:
• 52 Sabbaths most of us have off
• our New Year's Day -- a day away from work with preparation for the next ten days
• ten days of solemn reconsideration of our lives with repentance
• Yom haKippurim -- a day away from work with a fast
• Sukkot -- a day away from work with feasting and celebrating for all 7 days in a sukkah followed by
• a day of celebrating Torah with feasting
• Pesach or Passover -- a day away from work with feasting followed by
• counting the omer for 49 days followed by
• Shavuot or "Pentecost" which is a day away from work with rejoicing
• 12 Rosh Chodeshim that are not days away from work for most
• + several other observances some partake in that are not biblically mandated
• + all the other American national days off
(Did I forget any? And remember: most of us have to make up all those days off!)
What observances would Messiah be doing? If He were living here as a common person, He would be likely too busy doing the commanded days to do (dare I write it? I seriously struggle with writing it, but I bvelieve it to be true. Please forgive me.) the ones that arose from pagan holidays.
But hey! He's coming back! We all get to learn what we were wrong about, and we will all get to do what He had wanted us to do in the first place. So we can all wait and see! Right?
< Message edited by Covaan_Meshuga -- 11/3/2009 7:37:28 PM >
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 7:47:40 PM
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Dear Corne, my point exactly!
False gods out of trees!!!
I am not saying to stop celebrating christmas,
but at least read the history of what you are celebrating!
The Christmas holiday is a recycled pagan celebration.
The tradition of celebrating Dec. 25 as Christ's birth came to the Romans from Persia.
Mithra the Persian god of light and sacred contracts, was born out of a rock on Dec. 25.
Rome was notorious for her filtration with strange gods and cults, and in the third century, the unchristian emperor Aurelian establish the festival of Dies Invicti Solis, the Day of the Invincible Sun, on Dec. 25th.
Later Constantine choose this day to celebrate the birth of our Lord because it was already a celebrated holiday.
Hystorians generally agree that sometime during the fourth century some 300 years after our Saviour death this celebration that we know as Christmas begun.
Similarly, virtually all the customs associated with Christmas are recycled from ancient paga festivals honoring other gods.
God also gives other instruction about using other pagan practices to worship him. Read Deuteronomy 12:30-32.
Also in 2Cor.6 Paul addresses whether unbiblical religious customs and practices have any place in the worship of God's people.
Also Christmas is worshiping God in vain.
Jesus provides the answer in His stern rebuke of the religious teachers of that day:
"Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites...in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."...ALL TO WELL REJECT THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD SO YOU MAY KEEP YOUR TRADITION." Mark7:6-9
You cannot put Christ back into something that He was never in to begin with.
And if I must celebrate something, I rather celebrate the Holy Days Jesus Christ and the apostle observed.
It is understandable how some feel that by celebrating Christmas they honor Him. I felt the same way too. And I spent money that I didn;t have celebrating a day that I did not understand!
But the highest form of honor and worship that we can offer Him which is our reasonable service, is to obey His Word!
NOT ONE PLACE IN THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT CHRISTMAS!!
HE DID NOT COMMAND TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS!
NONE OF THE APOSTLES CELEBRATED CHRISTMAS!
GOD ABHORES PAGAN HOLIDAYS!
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 7:52:09 PM
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Dear Corne, my point exactly!
False gods out of trees!!!
This does not mean decorated trees are false gods. It means do not craft something and call it a god. I have never met a Christian that had objects that they called deities.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 7:56:54 PM
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Dear Corne, my point exactly!
False gods out of trees!!!
I am not saying to stop celebrating christmas,
but at least read the history of what you are celebrating!
The Christmas holiday is a recycled pagan celebration.
The tradition of celebrating Dec. 25 as Christ's birth came to the Romans from Persia.
Mithra the Persian god of light and sacred contracts, was born out of a rock on Dec. 25.
Rome was notorious for her filtration with strange gods and cults, and in the third century, the unchristian emperor Aurelian establish the festival of Dies Invicti Solis, the Day of the Invincible Sun, on Dec. 25th.
Later Constantine choose this day to celebrate the birth of our Lord because it was already a celebrated holiday.
Hystorians generally agree that sometime during the fourth century some 300 years after our Saviour death this celebration that we know as Christmas begun.
Similarly, virtually all the customs associated with Christmas are recycled from ancient paga festivals honoring other gods.
God also gives other instruction about using other pagan practices to worship him. Read Deuteronomy 12:30-32.
Also in 2Cor.6 Paul addresses whether unbiblical religious customs and practices have any place in the worship of God's people.
Also Christmas is worshiping God in vain.
Jesus provides the answer in His stern rebuke of the religious teachers of that day:
"Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites...in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."...ALL TO WELL REJECT THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD SO YOU MAY KEEP YOUR TRADITION." Mark7:6-9
You cannot put Christ back into something that He was never in to begin with.
And if I must celebrate something, I rather celebrate the Holy Days Jesus Christ and the apostle observed.
It is understandable how some feel that by celebrating Christmas they honor Him. I felt the same way too. And I spent money that I didn;t have celebrating a day that I did not understand!
But the highest form of honor and worship that we can offer Him which is our reasonable service, is to obey His Word!
NOT ONE PLACE IN THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT CHRISTMAS!!
HE DID NOT COMMAND TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS!
NONE OF THE APOSTLES CELEBRATED CHRISTMAS!
GOD ABHORES PAGAN HOLIDAYS!
Love in Christ
What do you call the day of the week? They have pagan roots.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 7:58:47 PM
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I want all to know that I do not delight in admitting that Christmas and Easter were taken from pagan holidays. It gives me no pleasure at all. I love you people as much as you can all be loved over a computer. Period.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 8:03:06 PM
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What do you call the day of the week? They have pagan roots.
We are not amazed by this, Sarai, and this is not a valid argument. We do not celebrate them except as days that the L-rd, which is not effected by the pagan names by which they are called. We also do not celebrate plastics that are named after gods, scientific methods that are named after gods, diseases named after gods, mental illnesses named after gods, etc. These are ideas that our society has mixed into our common practices and thought.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 8:03:29 PM
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What observances would Messiah be doing? If He were living here as a common person, He would be likely too busy doing the commanded days to do (dare I write it? I seriously struggle with writing it, but I believe it to be true. Please forgive me.) the ones that arose from pagan holidays.
But hey! He's coming back! We all get to learn what we were wrong about, and we will all get to do what He had wanted us to do in the first place. So we can all wait and see! Right?
You have a sweet manner in your approach and I appreciate that, but the truth is you believe the Gentile holidays (among BELIEVING Gentles) is pagan and a sin (if not ignorant) While I do not doubt that you have had to hear the word pagan directed at you, I have never heard or seen Gentile believers call Messianic worship practices pagan. EVER.
And yes, I believe that ALL of us will have theology corrected by God.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 8:08:03 PM
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You have a sweet manner in your approach and I appreciate that, but the truth is you believe the Gentile holidays (among BELIEVING Gentles) is pagan and a sin (if not ignorant) While I do not doubt that you have had to hear the word pagan directed at you, I have never heard or seen Gentile believers call Messianic worship practices pagan. EVER.
And yes, I believe that ALL of us will have theology corrected by God.
That is so kind of you, and I thank you for that, but some of the observances some of us Messianics do ARE pagan. I am sorry if that irritates some, but that is my opinion, and as I tell my husband, "That's my opinion, and it is very true." I would be the first to admit that, but i don't observe these. The legitimate observances come directly from the Bible, most Christians know that, and MOST (not all!) would not say that they are pagan.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 9:09:45 PM
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For the customs of the people are vain (Heb. a delusion) for one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax.
They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and hammers, that it move not
so where is the part about making the trees into gods?
honestly.
as much as i read it, what i see is:
trees are cut down by man with an ax; they are decorated with silver and gold; the tree is stuck in place with nails.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 9:30:41 PM
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Dear SariMay75,
I call the day of the week "the day that the Lord had made"!!
God gretest desire is for us to worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.
Worship is a serious subject in the bible.
Worshiping Him in Truth is first aknowledging the truth, and then obeying the truth. The highest form of worship.!!
Some people will never aknowledge the truth!
The truth is there is no Christmas in the bible. Can we at least agree with that?
Now even if you agree or not, THIS IS THE TRUTH!!
You agreeing or disagreeing DOES NOT CHANGE THE TRUTH!!
Whether you like it, feel it, not feel it, see it, not see it, believe it or not believe it, DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT WE ARE TOLD TO CELEBRATE THE LORDS'S BIRTHDAY!
THIS IS THE TRUTH AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE OR FEEL WILL NOT CHANGE IT!
i celebrated Christmas for 44 years. When I became a christian, and I was aware of the truth, I had an immediate responsability to the God of my salvation and the One who died for me to change it immediately.
It has NOTHING to do with what I feel. I liked Christmas. Everybody thought that I lost it!! But I don't seek to please man, I seek to please God!
We all have a choice. As for me and my house we choose not to celebrate Christmas!
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 9:35:49 PM
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DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT WE ARE TOLD TO CELEBRATE THE LORDS'S BIRTHDAY!
EVERYBODY knows that.
Now, where does it say we can't ourselves call a day of worship on a theme?
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 9:40:26 PM
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For the customs of the people are vain (Heb. a delusion) for one cuts a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax.
They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and hammers, that it move not
so where is the part about making the trees into gods?
honestly.
as much as i read it, what i see is:
trees are cut down by man with an ax; they are decorated with silver and gold; the tree is stuck in place with nails.
Jer 10: v. 5, 10, 14 context is key.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/3/2009 9:44:51 PM
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God gretest desire is for us to worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.
Worship is a serious subject in the bible.
Worshiping Him in Truth is first aknowledging the truth, and then obeying the truth. The highest form of worship.!!
Some people will never aknowledge the truth!
Truth. Jesus is the Truth, and knowing truth is about knowing who Jesus is and believing in Him for salvation.
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/4/2009 5:28:43 AM
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Dear Corne, day of worship on a theme?
What is wrong with that?
First that you join countless others that join in this commercial fest where Jesus is utterly absent.
Second, if there is even a shadow of suspition that is a pagan holyday, and is not even the Lord b-day, why would you want to even consider celebrating this pagan day?
The world is celebrating that, why would you even consider this day?
"Love not the world and the things of the world. ...All that is in the world is the lust of the flesh,
the lust of the eye and the pride of life." 1John
All these things are in Christmas!
We have an altar and we supposed to throw our sins on it, and our senseless traditions.!
You are a christian. What separate you from the rest of the world?
'Come you out from among them and touch not the unclean thing and I will receive you, say the Lord!"
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RE: Christmas only for turkeys? - 11/4/2009 6:08:03 AM
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Corne
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2:16
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days. 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Romans 14:14:4
Who are you to judge the servant of another ? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. 5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.
6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.
7 For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself;
8 for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.
9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
10 But you, why do you judge your brother ? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt ? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.
11For it is written, "AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW TO ME, AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL GIVE PRAISE TO GOD."
12So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God. 13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this --not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother's way. 14 I know and am convinced in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
So maybe we're not all required to observe holy days, sabbaths etc the same, eh?
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