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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/21/2009 9:54:09 PM
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I was reading through some internet articles and was browsinga web site I frequently browse. I read this article, watched a YouTube video imbedded in the article. Although I don't know how trustworthy the info is, it at least sounds credible at the surface. The link to the article is HERE. Can anyone make a good argument for or against this?
No Obama is not the Antichrist. He may be the same spirit, however. Antichrist will be Assyrian. Now, most people think that Assyria is in the middle east, Iran, Iraq etc. In the end times Antichrist will end of there. But the people of Assyria today can be found in Germany, just as many of the people of Israel became those of the British Isles, Nw Europe and the United States (that explains why we became so blessed as the birthright promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promised his seed to be a blessing to all nations). A precursor of the end times was demonstrated in WW2.
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/21/2009 11:16:05 PM
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Hi passinby...would you please tell me where we find that the coming man of sin must be Assyrian.
Thanks...
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/22/2009 9:34:39 AM
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Colossus…to my understanding the beast is a real person that comes out of the sea (secular world of humanity). The beast could also be a governmental system coming out of the sea but I tend to think the real beast will be the leader of this system. Babylon will be the secular world in general (those without God).
Oseas...I have to agree with you regarding Jerusalem...this is where all the action takes place. The blunt of the Revelation occurs in the Middle East with Jerusalem being the focal point focal.
Just my opinion…
Bob
I noticed, you did not use the term antichrist, in the above post. 
Yup there is a 'man of sin' . I just get bugged to the edge when folks think it is OK to change Gods Word. Folks talk about antichrist build whole lines of dogma, puting Thee Antichrist in Revelation the scriptures don't. Just one of those buggy things. .. Slipping a word in here and a word in there that are not scriptural.
We are to watch for the Master of the house......Mark 13
Hi Reba,
I understand your gripe here, but I honestly don't feel anyone has done very much wrong or tries to manipulate scripture. Just as the Bible throughout the old and new testaments have different names for the same person of Jesus. Likewise, it is pretty clear that 'the man of sin' also carries different names to describe different aspects of him, IE:
man of sin, son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3
the lawless one, 2 Thessalonians 2:8
the beast, Revelation 11:7
Head over many nations, Psalm 110:6
The Assyrian, Isaiah 10:5,12
King of Babylon, Isaiah 14:4
The Spoiler, Isaiah 16:4,5
The Profane and Wicked Prince of Israel, Ezekiel 21:25-27
The Little Horn, Daniel 7:8
The Vile Person, Daniel 11:21
The Wilful King, Daniel 11:36
The Worthless Shepherd, Zechariah 11:16,17
Etc Etc Etc...
To hold people to describing the man of sin to a particular atribute isn't do-able, just as we wouldn't generally use different names according to Jesus' particular attibute, we just call Him Jesus, or the Messiah or Christ. We don't know the man of sins name either, but he is clearly in scripture, so useing the term antiChrist is simple for ease, and should be understood that those that use the term are simply of a belief that there will be a future rebellious leader, who will carry all the charector of Satan, and is used to force control and worship to Lucifer.
Cheers,
Mark
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/22/2009 11:56:05 AM
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I do not believe Obama is the antichrist;[Hello Arley]at least not the little horn rising from the 10 toes of clay and Iron in Daniel[10 Kings]. My research on this issue went down online, and stopped at;JFJ] forums; End of the world; actually; end of age. Kings seem to suggest ,and initiates a Islamic alliance of Nations;forming into ten.[east and west]t 5 kings from each.[ Not the E.U.] I believe to be more of the 7th. empire, but the eigth arises from the 7th.Clay and Iron repesents democracy, and Islamic beliefs clashing ; Democracy being clay; Iron being the war machine arising from the middle east emmirates, and Kings, and princes. There is a great danger in Israel; a lie; that Israel never existed among the worlds communities, and believing in Muhhamed, and Jesus as a prophet of Muhammed. Islam is being offended from the western culture, as Radical Islam grows, and holds the oil rich lands , and the oil ports as hostage to the world, if Israel attacks Iran, the oil prices will send the world into an a catastrophe of an already desperate situation of economic distress. I fear the United States is not in end times prophecy, other than the gentile church. There has been dispensatioanal theology of the Rapture ;most Christians not understanding the definition of generation[70-100years], but the U.S. must fall , and will suffer God's wrath of it's pressure on dividing Israel's land with Palestine; believing it to bring peace.This fall of America started with; the land for peace process. I know I have jumped around, but Babylon seems to be the Antichrists headquarters, and the U.S. is still rebuilding it.[Iraq] Actually Osama bin Laden has fulfilled the prophesy of Islams Messiah,now protected by Genies, and will rise from his cave to bring Allahs power against Zionism[So they believe] when Radical Islam initiates a war, and destroys Israel. It will never happen; If you believe in the God of Israel[50 pages continued] if you wish? I believe Obama is blinded ,or part of the antichrists kingdom[aware of his actions] Bush,was as ;God has blinded thier eyes to bring about His will. Annointing is not always a good thing for some! Shalom
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/22/2009 1:04:03 PM
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Shabbat Shalom, to you Robertblog.
Welcome to the Crosswalk. Say hello to bob97, and SonicStudent, and may everyone make you feel welcome.
IMO, you are definitely going to be a welcome addition to the Forum, bringing your understanding of God's word, with a leaning to the Messianic flare, as I lean. Nuff-said. My day was just made brighter, with your participation.
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/22/2009 4:09:14 PM
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Thanks for the welcome. The post on the antichrist is so complicated, and many if's and but's, but we can all agree there is God's movement[a stirring of believers] , and a separation of the tares and wheat, as God's final conclusion is coming to some living of the generation that see's Israel become a Nation. [1948]Christians as well as Judaic believers are seeing events unfold and the vail is beginning to lift upon the eyes of the believers in the God of Israel. Good to hear from a welcomed and familiar voice. I felt my world tumbling around me last week with severe health issues,and JFJ plugging out, but as always when I fall, Jesus carries me. In the eternal peace of the Son of the Living G-d; Jesus;is His Name! There are many stages of the anti-christs kingdom and reign,described in Daniel[continued] Many blessings,Robert
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/22/2009 10:52:24 PM
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We don't know the man of sins name either, but he is clearly in scripture, so useing the term antiChrist is simple for ease, and should be understood that those that use the term are simply of a belief that there will be a future rebellious leader, who will carry all the charector of Satan, and is used to force control and worship to Lucifer.
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>>We don't know the man of sins name either, but he is clearly in scripture, so useing the term antiChrist is simple for ease,...<<
Yes, the man of sin or son of perdition, the profane wicked prince of Israel as prophesied Ezekiel, has really a name and he is definitively son of perdition because he is of Israel. He will manifest himself as the messiah of the Jews. JESUS also prophesied about him: John 5:v.43 "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another (A FALSE AND RUTHLESS MESSIAH, AN IMPOSTOR) shall come in his own name, him ye will receive". BE SURE THAT THE JEWS ARE WAITING THE APPEARANCE OF THEIR MESSIAH, AND NOT JESUS.
What is the name of the son of perdition? Would be him Eliyahu Bakshi Doron? Search who is him on Google.
Revelation does not say the name of the man of sin / son of perdition, but it says that him that has understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the NUMBER OF A MAN, and his number is 666. HERE IS WISDOM.
>>...a belief that there will be a future rebellious leader, who will carry all the charector of Satan, and is used to force control and worship to Lucifer.<<
It may be true, for every one who become to worship the false messiah as the idolater Catholics do worshipping the Pope, they really will be worshiping Satan (Lucifer /a wise ex-Cherub), for the man of sin / the false messiah is/will be as whether was the own Satan incarnate or the incarnation of Satan. THIS IS A TERRIBLE THING, IT IS A HARD THING IN TO SAY, BUT SATAN HAS POWER FOR TO MAKE THAT.
Rev. 12:v.12 - Woe to the inhabiters of the earthand of the sea! for the Devil is come down unto you (the Devil made flesh/ incarnated), hav ing great wrath, because HE KNOWS THAT HE HAS A SHORT TIME.
Take care and look up. The days will be shortened.
In Christ JESUS, KING of the kings and LORD of the lords
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/23/2009 1:48:28 AM
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Personally, I can't say BO is an antichrist or not, but if we know the word, anti-christ, it is something or some spirit that is opposite from the Spirit of the Christ!
Ephesians 6: 12-13 talk about the spiritual warfare, "For we wresle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against power, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand." That's the Scripture we may take reference to, not particular for his physical, but heyond that, the main driving force that leads him during his administration!
No judgment or condamention is done here, but in the Hand of the Lord! I just express my personal opinion! 
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/23/2009 3:56:56 AM
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There is a little bit of confusion amongst some here in regard to the Antichrist. Scripture reflects two independant but complementary concepts. The spirit if antichrist proceeds from Satan himself, the usurper who is a liar from the beginning. There have been many who have gone forth in this spirit, and they abound today behind every philosophy and empty religion that denies Christ.
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Here, the apostle was talking specifically about those liars who had pretended to be part of the church, wolves among the sheep. However, all who deny the Father and Son, are under this spirit. The word "antichrist" means that which would stand in the place of Christ, as well as that which would oppose Him.
However, since the beginning of Christianity, there has been a reference to one man standing at the end of time, embodying this spirit, the ultimate manifestation of evil outside of Satan himself. He is the one referred to as the "son of perdition", and John himself alludes to this individual in saying "you have heard that antichrist will come", while going on to say that many antichrists are here. This person will give the ultimate meaning to "antichrist", in that he will hold himself forth as God
2 Thessalonians 2 :1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Now, I would say that at this time we can not say Obama is an antichrist, or the Antichrist. Any allusions to him being a saviour have been made by others, and not in any sense of holding him forth (seriously) as a religious figure. Despite controversy over his words, I have never heard of any words from him that could be construed as denying the Father and the Son. That does not necessarily mean that he is not an evil man however, as he may very likely be part of an end times scenario being planned under a luciferian agenda. Furthermore, he could be a candidate for the man of sin himself, as that identity has not yet been revealed. The Antichrist may be presently known as a world leader, or he could be someone presently entirely unknown.
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/23/2009 5:30:33 AM
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Sonic,,,,
Cherry lemonade please...
The small books of John is where we find the word antichrist. John also penned The Revelation. If the guy who penned the books, Revelation and John was not the same guy then i would not SCREAM so loudly at the small changes man makes to God's Book.
I doubt if Samuel Clemens would like it if we changed the name Huck Finn to Alferd . How much more carefull should we be with the Holy Scripture.
Too many have built beliefs on the antichrist of Revelation, who is not there.
When looking protect myself from a counterfeit bill i study the real.
I wont continue to bug you all with my nit picking 
HI Reba - Cherry Coke, Mmmmmm, what a combination, Yum :)
No, you knit pick away :) I have tons of knit picks that get under my skin.
I fully get your reason for saying what you are saying. All i'm trying to say myself is, whether the title antiChrist is in Revelation or not, scripture seems clear to me that there will be a 'terrible, anti-Torah king' involved throughout the final hours before God's judgement the tribulation. I always remember too, that although John wrote the revelation, he is not writing his own words as he was in his own letters and gospel. As with the prophets often in the books of the prophets. he's being given revelation and being told to write down things. These things are wrote down in revelation in a particular style from Jesus' instruction, which the style iteslf is important in my opinion, as they clearly shadow and compliment some of Daniels and others prophetic experiences, contect and style.
I think it is clear, that what ever title we give, the very fact that this is Satan's final hour, means he will have his immitation, in all ways. I see him there, but yes, I don't see the words antiChrist written, but I sure see him there, but agree, Jesus, in Revelation didn't name him anti-Christ.
Cheers, i'm off to church, its nearly 10.30am
Bless you,
Mark (i rushed this, sorry)
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/23/2009 9:18:30 PM
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The book of Daniel and the Old testament seems to reveal quite distinct characteristics of the Anti christ in correlation with Revelation, and Matthew, and the New testament. The diciples asked Jesus privately, as He sat upon the Mount of Olives ; When shall all these things come to pass, and what shall be the sign of the end of the world?[Matthew 24:3]Isn't the question we ask; as I search my heart for the reasoning of this discussion. When does it all end; The end of the world!We think of total anniliation of of our planet earth, and the apocalypse , and anniliation of all mankind.Greek is translated differently than English, as Ugaritic, Arabic from Hebrew,and the interpretation of word association has caused many misunderstandings of the sciptures, both to Christians and Jews.As in Matthew 24, as Greek translates ; world in 3 different translations from Greek to English; Aion ; meaning ; end of age, or a specific period of time, and oikoumene, and kosmos, but ;The end of the world is refferred to ; Aion. End of Age, as the world shall never be destroyed, but a New Age begins; You know ; change! [just kidding!]The mettalic image in Daniel represents the empires , and directs us to these time periods;past, and prophetic future,Daniel ;[Hebrew], and Revelation, and New Testament; [Greek] constitutes a langauge barrier, between the two prophesies that actually correlate perfectly!I think when the birth and reign of the Antichrist[The little horn];and the coming of the ;Son of Man;Jesus; the gentile church shall be raptured, as Lot was sent out from Sodom and Gommorah before G-d's wrath fell upon it. We are closely approaching the vision of understanding the times of the beast, as we watch the growth of Israel, and the surrounding Islamic Nations collide with democracy; crumbling clay before the strength of Iron.[continued]
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/23/2009 11:31:49 PM
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Robertblog...I think I might agree with you but to be honest I'm having a little difficulty following exactly what you are saying.
I think you are telling me that the world will not be totally destroyed but will move into a different age and likely be renewed in someway.
Your talking about a rapture after the reign of the Antichrist (man of sin) and at the second coming of Christ but before the wrath of God...is that correct? This would mean that you see a gathering of the saints when?
I follow the grouping of the Islamic Nations against Israel.
Sorry to be so slow but that's the way God made me.
Bob
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/24/2009 9:25:10 AM
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Hi passinby...would you please tell me where we find that the coming man of sin must be Assyrian.
Thanks...
Bob
Sonic Student already gave the same scriptures I would have. Antiochus Epiphanies was from the Seleucid portion of the Grecian Empire. He was the prototype of the end time one to come. Of course when that happened he put that abomination in the temple of the Jews, and prophecy repeats itself.
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/24/2009 10:23:51 AM
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Hi passinby...if you were to tell me that the man of sin will be of Japhetic lineage I would have no problem what so ever.
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/27/2009 12:32:58 AM
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lhtytip, Shalom.
I clipped the last paragraph from the article, and include it here: "So what can we do? Pray for the rapture. If evangelicals vanish, the rest of us might finally get better medical care, a healthier environment, a more just international community, and full civil rights for gays and lesbians. But short of this miracle, we can at least begin to understand that before Obama is able to penetrate the evangelical heart, evangelicals themselves will need to do some serious soul-searching. Rick Warren and Joel Osteen’s shallow, positive-thinking, feel-good sermonizing is not going to help them do this. Instead, it is up to the younger evangelicals to engage in serious intellectual debate and a rigorous rethinking of the theology at the root of their politics. Anything less and the doomsayers will turn fears of Obama-as-Antichrist into big business. But hell, maybe that’s just the spark the economy needs."
This may well be one of the best 'Falling Away' offerings I have seen for some time. When they go after the young minds, too many will follow, so they can say they didn't follow the Old Folk mindset. I may be seeing it wrong, but the whole article had an Atheistic tone to it, where we 'dumb,' 'emotional,' ancients, are 'fearing' the end of the world.
Only non-Christian mindset people should 'fear' the Tribulation. But then, this espousal of the author, is one of the major psychological reasons I feel a pre-trib Rapture is needed, as does the author, but for separate reasoning. Oh, Well.
In Messiah. Arley
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/27/2009 5:49:16 AM
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lhtytip, Shalom.
Only non-Christian mindset people should 'fear' the Tribulation. But then, this espousal of the author, is one of the major psychological reasons I feel a pre-trib Rapture is needed, as does the author, but for separate reasoning. Oh, Well.
In Messiah. Arley
I know, Arley, this world now is completely up-side-down!
All these things happening around could only make us stronger by his grace of God!
Although it's said in the article, "Rick Warren and Joel Osteen’s shallow, positive-thinking, feel-good sermonizing is not going to help them do this. Instead, it is up to the younger evangelicals to engage in serious intellectual debate and a rigorous rethinking of the theology at the root of their politics." I'd rather put it this way, it starts with me and you, doesn't matter how much we could do, but the sincerety, if we don't start here, right here, right now, we would not go anywhere! God Forbid!
It's said in Psalm 51, "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit. Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee."
Hope this may create profound understanding! 
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 8/27/2009 9:05:49 PM
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These things must come pass soon in fulfillment of the culmination of the troubles on this earth which is known as the period of the trial of the mark of the number of the name of the false prophet and ten worldwide leaders who implement this as a restricted commerce worship upon those people who are on earth, thus making war on those who do not accept it in civil affairs and in open armed conflict of war.
The Nubians are written with an alliance with the Lybians not in the favor of, of course, this gog and magog; but they are involved in the conflict and are at war in keeping with the faith bestowed in Holy War.
The Nubians and the Lybians are following at his heels. Which is the Prophecy given to Daniel and Dan which Dan will be a serpent by the roadside, a viper along the path, that bites the horse's heels so that its rider tumbles backward. Dan is the rear guard and these are those who are the fulfillment of the Prophecy of the feast given to Moses which is the Feast of the Ingathering for God ordered His servants anyone who would come is written. The horsemen are written: war, plague, famine. This is also in the Song in Moses Testimony given to those of the Feast of the First Fruits which there will appear 144,000 in fulfillment of The Testimony given to John the Apostle.
Thus Obama would not, necessarily, fit the Prophecy of Nostradamus in the manner in which some have interpreted in the past days gone by.
But, instead would not want Egypt to be conquered which is to say that He would not want to lose, in the very least, his opportunity as one of the agents of the fulfillment for the Nubian and Lybian 'alliance'.
From 'the halls of Monctezuma to the shores of Tripoli' was once sung.
One waits in eager hope to see the carryforward fulfillment of these things.
As one can find in the news, at this time, there are military occurances south of the border which was the Chief City which is located in the nation state called Mexico City of the same name: Mexico.
Also, there has been a significant political leader released from prison to Lybia from Scotts.
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I was reading through some internet articles and was browsinga web site I frequently browse. I read this article, watched a YouTube video imbedded in the article. Although I don't know how trustworthy the info is, it at least sounds credible at the surface. The link to the article is HERE. Can anyone make a good argument for or against this?
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 9/3/2009 1:36:19 PM
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These things must come pass soon in fulfillment of the culmination of the troubles on this earth which is known as the period of the trial of the mark of the number of the name of the false prophet and ten worldwide leaders who implement this as a restricted commerce worship upon those people who are on earth, thus making war on those who do not accept it in civil affairs and in open armed conflict of war.
The Nubians are written with an alliance with the Lybians not in the favor of, of course, this gog and magog; but they are involved in the conflict and are at war in keeping with the faith bestowed in Holy War.
The Nubians and the Lybians are following at his heels. Which is the Prophecy given to Daniel and Dan which Dan will be a serpent by the roadside, a viper along the path, that bites the horse's heels so that its rider tumbles backward. Dan is the rear guard and these are those who are the fulfillment of the Prophecy of the feast given to Moses which is the Feast of the Ingathering for God ordered His servants anyone who would come is written. The horsemen are written: war, plague, famine. This is also in the Song in Moses Testimony given to those of the Feast of the First Fruits which there will appear 144,000 in fulfillment of The Testimony given to John the Apostle.
Thus Obama would not, necessarily, fit the Prophecy of Nostradamus in the manner in which some have interpreted in the past days gone by.
But, instead would not want Egypt to be conquered which is to say that He would not want to lose, in the very least, his opportunity as one of the agents of the fulfillment for the Nubian and Lybian 'alliance'.
From 'the halls of Monctezuma to the shores of Tripoli' was once sung.
One waits in eager hope to see the carryforward fulfillment of these things.
As one can find in the news, at this time, there are military occurances south of the border which was the Chief City which is located in the nation state called Mexico City of the same name: Mexico.
Also, there has been a significant political leader released from prison to Lybia from Scotts.
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ORIGINAL: tsnody2001
I was reading through some internet articles and was browsinga web site I frequently browse. I read this article, watched a YouTube video imbedded in the article. Although I don't know how trustworthy the info is, it at least sounds credible at the surface. The link to the article is HERE. Can anyone make a good argument for or against this?
The Gospel Teaches us that these will arise from among the nations who did not previously have a leadership among the Empire(s) who are the ten leaders who have the covenant confirmed with the false prophet who performs signs and wonders in their presence and in the full view of peoples worldwide in implementing the mark of the number of the name of the false prophet as a restricted commerce worship.
Therefore, those among the leadership; presently; are to be prayed for is written for they are given the trust of Leadership and responsibility as servants of God is written.
Let us be supportive of these for they are those whom God has allowed and appointed to this trust.
These things must come to pass at the appointed time. Therefore, let's prepare ourselves in submission to the rule of Governance for all Governance is upon the shoulders of Messiah is written for the time will be coming soon for the appearance of this nefarious false prophet who will attempt to deceive the world. For we must go to war concerning him for he will come soon and we must begin preparing our stand. Yet, he must prevail to commandeer the leadership only for a little while. There are many places in a Kingdom or Empire. Some are this kind of warrior and some are other kinds of warriors...
And, especially for The Appearance of Messiah which is what is written as the Precious Power of the attainment to the Millennium for this world's systems has a set time period and does not deserve to be compared with the time of no wars coming after.
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 9/4/2009 10:54:21 PM
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tsnody2001
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This world is completely upside down. It has been since Adam sinned. Christ came so that so that it might be turned right-side up. Thank you all for your input. Sorry I have been away for a few weeks...
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 9/8/2009 6:34:24 PM
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the WORLD TRADE CENTER COLLAPSE (9-11-01) was exactly 7 years before the WORLD TRADE COLLAPSE (9-11-08).
REVELATION 18;11 is a verse about the WORLD TRADE COLLAPSE.
the above-described 7 year period was a foreshadow the the soon-coming 7-year Trib.
and Obama is the a/c OR a foreshadow of the a/c
see also
www.bible-codes.org
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 9/8/2009 7:10:25 PM
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COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist?
I honestly thought someone was just being silly but people are actually serious. Now the biblical discussion of this subject is interesting, the politcal extremist view is pathetic.
Certainly ultra liberals do view Obama as soft while the right wing religious fringe actually entertain the idea that Obama might be the Anti-Christ!
Being relatively new to the forum I should ask - did people also entertain Bush as the Anti-Christ since he created most of the current mess?
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RE: COULD Obama be THE or AN Antichrist? - 9/8/2009 11:28:01 PM
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That would be an opinion Frontporch that not all would accept but you are welcome to it.
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