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Holy Spirit - 8/29/2009 10:04:03 AM
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Aliosias
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This is a thread to be used strictly for or about things for or about the Holy Spirit....such as thanking the Holy Spirit....Blessing the Holy Spirit.....our love of the Holy Spirit....Poems or Hymns about the Holy Spirit...power of the Holy Spirit in the Believers Life....pictures etc. Albert Finch http://www.thekeys2kingdom.com
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RE: Holy Spirit - 8/29/2009 11:30:16 AM
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I have wondered if there isn't 2 distinct receiving of the Holy Spirit in a believers life. We know that it is by the Holy Spirit that one gets saved. We receive the Holy spirit at the moment of our being born again but then we also receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. In the Gospel of John, Jesus breathed on His disciples and told them to receive the Holy Spirit 21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. But the disciples were also told to stay in Jerusalem until they received power from on high. Acts 1:4,5 4On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit." Why do you think God chose to give us His Holy Spirit in this way?
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RE: Holy Spirit - 9/9/2009 12:02:49 AM
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Aliosias
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Like you said there is more than one impartation of the Holy Spirit. The purpose of additional imprtations is to put extra power and revelation in ones ministry. People who are not aspiriring to or developing a personal ministry should not expect more that one imparation -- and even then the Holy Spirit can become dormant in the believers life through lack of use -- ie. living in and embracing the world and its values. The 120 on the day of pentacost were in high expectation of something happening and were seeking more of Jesus. Albert Finch www.thekeys2kingdom.com
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RE: Holy Spirit - 9/9/2009 6:32:28 AM
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ORIGINAL: my quivers full I have wondered if there isn't 2 distinct receiving of the Holy Spirit in a believers life. We know that it is by the Holy Spirit that one gets saved. We receive the Holy spirit at the moment of our being born again but then we also receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. In the Gospel of John, Jesus breathed on His disciples and told them to receive the Holy Spirit But the disciples were also told to stay in Jerusalem until they received power from on high. Why do you think God chose to give us His Holy Spirit in this way? There are 2 distinct activities of the Ruach HaKodesh in our lives and both exist under the Mosaic covenant and the New Covenant. The first one we come across is the Spirit coming upon someone - like in Acts 2. This is for ministry and acts of power and has nothing to do with the internal character of the person. Think Baalam, King Saul and Samson. Under the New Covenant think healings, prophecies, miracles. The other activity is the Spirit coming within someone and this is for changing someone's life. This is what happens when we are born again and is what happened in John 20. The Spirit comes within to change us from glory to glory into God's image. In the Mosaic Covenant it was for wisdom and understanding - think Joseph in Egypt or the guy that built the Tabernacle in the Sinai desert. Under the New Covenant think the Fruit of the Spirit; love joy peace self control etc.
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RE: Holy Spirit - 9/16/2009 10:57:23 PM
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Romans 14:17 - For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. Affirmation Christianity is not about what I put into my life, but what God has already put in my life. The New Covenant is: 1. I am cleansed by the blood of Jesus. 2. I am filled with the love and Holy Spirt of God. 3. And all God has for me is already inside of me the moment I was born again. Albert Finch http://www.thekeys2kingdom.com .
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RE: Holy Spirit - 9/17/2009 5:16:25 AM
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1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. John 7:39 But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
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RE: Holy Spirit - 9/25/2009 6:01:24 PM
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Romans 8:13,16 - For if I live after the flesh, I shall die; but if I through the spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, I shall live. The Holy Spirit bears witness with my spirit, that I am a child of God. Affirmation I dominate my mind and my body with my spirit since I maintain my spirit properly--feeding, strengthening, and dominating my inner man with the word. Albert Finch www.thekeys2kingdom.com
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RE: Holy Spirit - 9/25/2009 7:00:25 PM
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ORIGINAL: Aliosias This is a thread to be used strictly for or about things for or about the Holy Spirit....such as thanking the Holy Spirit....Blessing the Holy Spirit.....our love of the Holy Spirit....Poems or Hymns about the Holy Spirit...power of the Holy Spirit in the Believers Life....pictures etc. Albert Finch http://www.thekeys2kingdom.com But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak and He will disclose to you what is to come. He shall glorify Me; for He shall take of Mine, and shall disclose it to you. John 16:13-14 The Holy Spirit would and does ask us to speak of Jesus. It is Jesus' glory and His alone that the Holy Spirit desires. Let's talk about Jesus.
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RE: Holy Spirit - 9/26/2009 2:17:50 AM
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We are suppose to thank God, and bless God, love God; the Holy Spirit is of God, and yet God is a Spirit; but again there is no confusion, nor speculation warranted, it is in the Name of Jesus Christ we are to give thanks to God the Father in all things. We must learn to not think above that which is written, that no one of us be exaggerated, or over-estimate God´s will which is God´s Word.
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RE: Holy Spirit - 9/30/2009 11:39:24 PM
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Aliosias
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Ephesians 1:9,10 - For He has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of His will, according to His purpose which He set forth in Christ as a plan for the fulness of time to unite all things in Him, things in heaven and things on earth. Observation The ultimate purpose of God is to sum up all things in His son. In everything the Lord is doing on the earth, the ultimate purpose is to be conformed to the image of Christ. Therefore the basis of what he is saying to us is that we must be found in Him. Likewise, knowing that the basic communication of the Holy Spirit is about the Son, His ways, His works and His heart, enables us to have a basis for beginning to interpret what the Holy Spirit is saying to us. Albert Finch http://www.thekeys2kingdom.com
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RE: Holy Spirit - 10/7/2009 7:47:21 PM
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Psalm 115:8 -- "They who make idols are like them; so are all who trust in and lean on them." If our knowledge about God is not charged with the life and power of God, mere knowledge becomes an idol in our minds. It is easy for us to have ideas and images of God that are untrue, which the HOLY SPIRIT would remove if we would let Him. The power of Christ's life is filtered and proportionally diminished by the number of these wrong images existing within us. Matthew 24:4 -- Jesus answered them, Be careful that no one misleads you (deceiving you and leading you into error). Albert Finch http://www.thekeys2kingdom.com
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RE: Holy Spirit - 10/7/2009 9:42:57 PM
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Hello, I consider the Holy Spirit to be God moving and God doing. He is God alive in the world today. So yes, we are born again by the Holy Spirit, indwelled by Him and empowered by Him. Yes, the Holy Spirit does come upon us to enable us to fulfill the great commission, to heal, deliver and represent God in the earth.
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RE: Holy Spirit - 10/7/2009 9:54:46 PM
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Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Eph 4:31 Just let it go
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RE: Holy Spirit - 10/15/2009 1:12:57 AM
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Psalm 100:4 - "Enter into His gates with thanksgiving, and into His courts with praise. Be thainkful to Him, and bless His name." Praise and thanksgiving, communing with God in the Holy Spirit, starts with being Holy Spirit sensitive and understanding the reality of having our spirit connected into the anointing of His Presence. It is true that the anointing is for others, but it is also true that the anointing is for us to know Him and His truth. 1 John 1:20 - "But you have an anointing from the Holy one, and you know all things." Albert Finch www.thekeys2kingdom.com
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RE: Holy Spirit - 10/22/2009 12:35:43 AM
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Ezekiel 37:2,3 - And He set me in the middle of a valley ; it was full of bones....He asked me, 'Son of man, can these bones live?' The Holy Spirit resurrection power that is released through faith enables us to speak to and encourage ourselves in the Lord. We are to bring forth new hope and speak life to those that are dead and despairing. As our ears are tuned to hear the Lord's voice His words will create the hunger and desire to disciple others into a higher spiritual life in Chirst. The Source of eternal life will connect us to others that will empower us to become all we are destined to be. Ezekiel 37:10 - "So I prophesied as He commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet -- a vast army." Albert Finch http://twitter.com/aliosias
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RE: Holy Spirit - 10/22/2009 11:09:47 PM
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The reason many Christians feel so defeated in dealing with sin and life experiences is because they lack the infilling of the Holy Spirit.
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RE: Holy Spirit - 10/23/2009 1:40:55 AM
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A friend of mine used to emphasize being baptized by the Holy Spirit more than baptized by the water! I'm getting the ideas now and it's just like the Scripture said in Acts 1: 5, "For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptize with the Holy Ghost not many days hence." Acts 2: 1-4 say, "And when the day of he Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting." It's interesting to observe from the Scriptures that the function of the Holy Spirit could be activated clearly only when the congregation/fellowship is in one accord!
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RE: Holy Spirit - 10/23/2009 10:45:47 AM
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Acts 2: 1-4 say, "And when the day of he Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting." quote:
I love reading Acts 1-4.It is so exciting to read about the power of God!
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RE: Holy Spirit - 11/15/2009 7:38:47 PM
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2 Corinthians 5:17 - If any man is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. When we were born again we received the very Spirit of God, and through His Spirit we were birthed into another realm; the Kingdom of Heaven. Through the vehicle of the Holy Spirit we are united to the actual person of Jesus Christ who is seated at the throne of God. Our heart is attached to the power of God. We are never alone. Christ is always with us. What we were as a person prior to salvation, we will never be again! Albert Finch http://twitter.com/aliosias
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RE: Holy Spirit - 11/16/2009 9:20:24 AM
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Many feel that the holy spirit is a real person who lives inside Christ's disciples. Or divine science, a law of God in action. Others believe that it is the third person of the Trinity. Yet others accept as true that it is God's presence at work in the world. Hence, why such confusion ? It dates back to the fourth century C.E., when some theologians claimed that the holy spirit was a person who was somehow equal to God. This, however, was not an idea taught in the Scriptures or by the early disciples of Christ. The New Catholic Encyclopedia explains: "The Old Testament clearly does not envisage God's spirit as a person....God's spirit is simply God's power." It further said: "The majority of New Testament texts reveal God's spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God." The Bible then reveals to any earnestly wanting, an understanding of the nature of the holy spirit. Jesus once asked his disciples: "Which father is there among you who, if his son asks for a fish, will perhaps hand him a serpent instead of a fish ? Or if he also asks for an egg, will hand him a scorpion ?"(Luke 11:11, 12) The children of Galilee enjoyed eating eggs and fish; they knew what they wanted. Jesus said that we should keep on asking for the holy spirit, like a hungry child, for he said : "Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will the Father in heaven give holy spirit to those asking him !” (Luke 11:13) Hence, the holy spirit can be given, like a gift. The Scriptures make clear that the holy spirit is a force that God uses to accomplish his will. When the angel Gabriel announced to Mary that she would have a son even though she was a virgin, the angel told her: "Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God’s Son."(Luke 1:35) According to Gabriel's words, there is a link between the holy spirit and the "power of the Most High." A similar idea appears with regard to Micah, who said: "I myself have become full of power, with the spirit of Jehovah."(Micah 3:8) Jesus promised his disciples, following his resurrection: "You will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you."(Acts 1:8) And the apostle Paul spoke of "the power of holy spirit."(Rom 15:13, 19) So, what may we conclude from this ? That there is a close connection between the holy spirit and the power of God. Thus, the holy spirit is the means by which the true God, Jehovah, exerts his power. Put simply, the holy spirit is God's applied power, or his active force. It is this active force or applied power that God used to create the universe, though we cannot fully comprehend the full extent of it's power. Isaiah said: "Raise your eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who is bringing forth the army of them even by number, all of whom he calls even by name. Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one of them is missing."(Isa 40:26)
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RE: Holy Spirit - 11/16/2009 10:30:17 AM
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The reason many Christians feel so defeated in dealing with sin and life experiences is because they lack the infilling of the Holy Spirit. Amen, Walker311! I believe the Bible teaches there are two distinct works of grace: initial salvation is when we "get all of God" and entire sanctification is when He "gets all of us". Infilling of the Holy Spirit requires total consecration, daily surrender, and continual abiding in Christ's Love. There is always victory in "dealing with sin and life experiences" when we apply God's grace and the power of the Holy Spirit!
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RE: Holy Spirit - 11/16/2009 3:49:22 PM
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Though many feel that the holy spirit is a person, the Bible compares the holy spirit to water. When promising future blessings for his people, God said: "For I shall pour out water upon the thirsty one, and trickling streams upon the dry place. I shall pour out my spirit upon your seed, and my blessing upon your descendants."(Isa 44:3) When God pours out his spirit upon his servants, they become "full of holy spirit," or "filled with holy spirit." Jesus (Luke 4:1), John the Baptist (Luke 1:15), Peter (Acts 4:8), Paul (Acts 9:17; 13:9), Barnabas (Acts 11:22, 24), and the disciples who were gathered together on the day of Pentecost 33 C.E.(Acts 2:4), are all described as being full of, or filled with, holy spirit. Consider this: Could a person be ' poured out 'on many different individuals ? Would you say that one person could ' fill ' a whole group of people ? That defies logic. The Bible does refer to people becoming filled with wisdom (Ex 28:3; Luke 2:40), understanding (1 Kings 7:14), or even accurate knowledge (Col 1:9), but it never describes anyone as becoming filled with another person. The Greek word translated "spirit" is pneuma, which also conveys the idea of an invisible power. According to Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, the word pneuma "primarily denotes the wind...also breath; then , especially the spirit, which, like the wind, is invisible, immaterial and powerful." Thus, the holy spirit is not a person, but is God's active force.
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RE: Holy Spirit - 11/22/2009 9:45:07 PM
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Matthew 5:20 - "For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." Christ's virtue and power came from the Holy Spirit, not a religious spirit. For it was the fruit of the Holy Spirit that the Father crowned with power -- love healed broken bodies -- peace drove out tormenting spirits -- joy released captives from sin. Romans 14:17 - For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. Albert Finch (Facebook) http://twitter.com/aliosias
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