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Contingency Plan - 9/6/2009 1:26:11 PM
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Bambigirl
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Hi, just wondering, if after asking God for something is it ok to have a back-up plan, could that be not trusting Him enough?
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RE: Contingency Plan - 9/6/2009 2:33:06 PM
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A back up plan is like a seat belt. Plan A is to not get in an accident. Plan B is to hopefully survive should we have one. It is not a lack of faith as much as an acknowledgement that sometimes what we planed is not what God will ultimately allow us to experience.
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RE: Contingency Plan - 9/6/2009 3:05:50 PM
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A back up plan is like a seat belt. Plan A is to not get in an accident. Plan B is to hopefully survive should we have one. It is not a lack of faith as much as an acknowledgement that sometimes what we planed is not what God will ultimately allow us to experience.
Well said.
God has three basic answers: yes, no and wait. If something doesn't have a precedent in Scripture then you have to look for the principle, and that might be subtle. A "no" answer means you do need a plan B. Or plan C.
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RE: Contingency Plan - 9/6/2009 6:04:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: kd4hvz
A back up plan is like a seat belt. Plan A is to not get in an accident. Plan B is to hopefully survive should we have one. It is not a lack of faith as much as an acknowledgement that sometimes what we planed is not what God will ultimately allow us to experience.
Well said.
God has three basic answers: yes, no and wait. If something doesn't have a precedent in Scripture then you have to look for the principle, and that might be subtle. A "no" answer means you do need a plan B. Or plan C.
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A back up plan is like a seat belt. Plan A is to not get in an accident. Plan B is to hopefully survive should we have one. It is not a lack of faith as much as an acknowledgement that sometimes what we planed is not what God will ultimately allow us to experience.
Well said.
God has three basic answers: yes, no and wait. If something doesn't have a precedent in Scripture then you have to look for the principle, and that might be subtle. A "no" answer means you do need a plan B. Or plan C.
I disagree, we are to be anxious for nothing. "Worry not for the morrow, today brings enough trouble of it's own". The bible does not tell us to make a plan, then make another plan just in case it doesn't work out like we want or think it should.
The reality of it is, we are to only act because we have sought His will for us.
It's not us making a decision and God conforming to it. That would be a back up plan. That's like saying, "Ok, God, You didn't like that idea, so, I will go, with this one."
What if God doesn't like either of them? Isn't it just easier to seek Him BEFORE we make any sort of plans and trust that He will act according to what He deems is in our best interest?
He acts and we don't always get what we want. If we need a plan B, then we really aren't seeking God's will for us, we are seeking a way to do our own will, with another idea.
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Pro 16:3 Commit your works to the LORD And your plans will be established.
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RE: Contingency Plan - 9/6/2009 8:03:11 PM
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kd4hvz
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I disagree, we are to be anxious for nothing. "Worry not for the morrow, today brings enough trouble of it's own". The bible does not tell us to make a plan, then make another plan just in case it doesn't work out like we want or think it should.
The reality of it is, we are to only act because we have sought His will for us.
It's not us making a decision and God conforming to it. That would be a back up plan. That's like saying, "Ok, God, You didn't like that idea, so, I will go, with this one."
Let's say you and I are planning to go swimming Saturday. We pray for a warm clear sunny day. We also decide that if the weather is too cold or if it rains we will go to a movie instead. In the context of the original post, would that be sin? I don't think so. I don't think that is a lack of faith. I don't think it is an issue of failing to seek His will for our life. I think it is acknowledginbg that we don't know the future and we sometimes to to have options.
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RE: Contingency Plan - 9/6/2009 8:31:04 PM
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God has three basic answers: yes, no and wait. If something doesn't have a precedent in Scripture then you have to look for the principle, and that might be subtle. A "no" answer means you do need a plan B. Or plan C.
Yeah, and so does my chair if I pray to it. That's like saying you either are going to throw a heads, a tails, or the quarter will fall down the sewer. This is not really a faith producing answer to a critic if I can get that much from a quarter, or a stationary chair.
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RE: Contingency Plan - 9/6/2009 9:31:48 PM
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HaveMercyonUS
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Hi, just wondering, if after asking God for something is it ok to have a back-up plan, could that be not trusting Him enough?
Wouldn't that be like saying, "if God doesn't answer me the way I want, I'm going to make arrangements for what I desire another way." God may answer your pray, just not like how you want him too. If you are not willing to accept God's answer to your prayer if it maybe isn't the answer you want or God doesn't answer in the timeframe you want, why bother praying to him in the first place? We cannot put restrictions on how God answers our prayers. We must trust God's judgment fully.
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RE: Contingency Plan - 9/6/2009 11:06:00 PM
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God has three basic answers: yes, no and wait. If something doesn't have a precedent in Scripture then you have to look for the principle, and that might be subtle. A "no" answer means you do need a plan B. Or plan C.
Yeah, and so does my chair if I pray to it. That's like saying you either are going to throw a heads, a tails, or the quarter will fall down the sewer. This is not really a faith producing answer to a critic if I can get that much from a quarter, or a stationary chair.
Your chair talks to you? ....ummm....
The difference between God and a quarter, is that the quarter simply responds to physics. God determines whether to say yes, no, or wait based on His agenda and how He sees our petition fitting into that agenda. His yes or no or wait are not random and arbitrary.
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I was going on the premise of "major" (if we can call them this) decisions. 
