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RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HER" - 9/9/2009 11:34:37 AM   
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I was going to post this in the thread for this girl but I can't find it. If any mods could help I'd appreciate it. My searches are coming up blank.

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I have said from the very first that Rifqa Bary is the highest value target in America. Apostasy is the most egregious crime against Islam. Her crime is not just against the family. it is against Islam.

I know Ohio law enforcement and Florida law enforcement found no threat to Rifqa, but perhaps they can put down the kool aid for five minutes and do their job.

There is a pro-Islamic site on Facebook that threatens Rifqa Bary with death. Will everyone stop the PC, religion of peace nonsense, pull their heads out of their ***** and get serious? Is law enforcement going to stop playing games and protect this young girl or what? Salman Rushdie did far less.


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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/9/2009 11:56:42 AM   
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This girl has a palpable fear to move halfway across the country from her parents. I hope that the courts honor her wishes. She's only months away from being a legal adult anyway.

We have many Muslims in our community due to the prescence of a mosque and a school. Most woman wear just a head scarf although I am seeing more hijabs without the Talibanesque face covering lately. It is unfortunate the way they look upon and treat their women. I don't think there is any equal text to Paul's admonition to love our wives as we would our own bodies.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/9/2009 5:33:28 PM   
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This girl has a palpable fear to move halfway across the country from her parents. I hope that the courts honor her wishes. She's only months away from being a legal adult anyway.

We have many Muslims in our community due to the prescence of a mosque and a school. Most woman wear just a head scarf although I am seeing more hijabs without the Talibanesque face covering lately. It is unfortunate the way they look upon and treat their women. I don't think there is any equal text to Paul's admonition to love our wives as we would our own bodies.


Good point, she is 17 already. Isn't there a law where you can basically emancipate your parents and you become responsible for yourself? I know some movie stars have did that when they were young, such as Macaulay Culkin.

The father is now blaming a Christian pastor for brainwashing her. She has come forward with a bit more:
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Raising Stakes: Sexual, Physical Abuse Claims

The teen and her lawyer raised the stakes for the hearing in documents filed this week, accusing her family of physical and sexual abuse and claiming that they are involved with an Islamic extremist organization.

John Stemberger, Bary's lawyer, told ABCNews.com the teen was sexually and physically abused by her relatives.

Rifqa "was sexually abused by her uncle and the mother was aware and never reported it," Stemberger said. "There was physical abuse by the father. He smacked her with great force, enough to slam her across the room.

"One time he asked her to wear the Islamic headdress, and she basically scooted down in the car so she couldn't be seen because she was embarrassed by it and he punched her with full force using his fist across the side of her face," Stemberger said.

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We had an honor killing in TX last year where a father shot his two teen girls and the media first refused to state that it could have been an honor killing. Eventually the truth came out, but not sure why they didn't report the truth ealry on.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/9/2009 10:45:28 PM   
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The media is fearful of violent reprisals if they call it what it truly is.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/10/2009 5:55:36 AM   
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The can of proverbial worms has been opened. Now DHS and the FBI will be investigating her mom and dad. As well as child protective services, the DA, etc. Daddy better have deep pockets to pay for the lawyers he'll need for all the interviews he and his wife will be having.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/16/2009 12:01:00 PM   
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The police are saying they find no credible threat..riiight. I mean how would they know? And what would be considered a credible threat?

Story here

I don't know. But why take chances. Besides if she's almost an adult let her stay where she wants why take chances if she feels threatened?

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/16/2009 6:04:08 PM   
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No one should ever, at any age, be afraid of their parents!
Dare I say it? If this girl were from an extreme Christian faction, she would be in protective custody. Too many are afraid of "offending" Islam.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/19/2009 11:55:24 PM   
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Couple who sheltered Rifqa Bary speak
Updated: Friday, 18 Sep 2009, 4:56 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 17 Sep 2009, 10:07 PM EDT

TRACY JACIM | FOX 35 News
SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35 - FOX 35 recently spoke with the couple who welcomed runaway convert Rifqa Bary to Florida and provided her a place to stay for two weeks.

"There was recently on FaceBook, there was a sign-up, 'Kill Rifqa Bary' and 120 supposedly Muslims apparently signed up to do this," said Pastor Blake Lorenz. "It's been documented, but FaceBook took it off."

One of the first points the pastor makes is that he and his wife, Beverly, are clearly determined from the very beginning to prove they not only housed 17-year-old Christian convert for two weeks, but helped her flee her Columbus, Ohio home, all because they truly believe her life is in danger.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/20/2009 12:14:07 AM   
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They found no credible threats, huh? I guess 120 people jumping on the "kill her" band wagon isn't credible enough? Unbelievable, but then don't law enforcement have to wait for an actual attack or something?

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/22/2009 9:09:16 AM   
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Political asylum suggested as remedy for Rifqa
Chad Groening - OneNewsNow - 9/22/2009 7:00:00 AM

The head of a Christian ministry dedicated to exposing the truth about Islam believes that the attorney for a 17-year-old Christian convert from Islam should begin the process of seeking political asylum for his client who is not a U.S. citizen and is fearful of being returned to her native Sri Lanka by her parents.

September 29 had been the next scheduled hearing in the case of Rifqa Bary, the Ohio teen who ran away to Florida out of fear that she would be killed for converting from Islam to Christianity. But yesterday her parents filed a motion for a hearing seeking jurisdiction of the case to be moved from Orlando to Columbus. An Ohio judge has set a hearing for October 27. The Florida judge currently supervising the case said at a hearing in Orlando on Monday afternoon that he will consult with his Ohio counterpart to settle jurisdictional issues. (See related video report)

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/30/2009 6:44:40 PM   
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Rifqa's tale - a cultural omen?
Chad Groening - OneNewsNow - 9/29/2009 6:00:00 AM

A Christian attorney says the ongoing saga of a teenage Christian convert who fled from Ohio to Florida in fear of her life may be an indication of things to come.

The parents of 17-year-old Rifqa Bary have filed a motion for a hearing seeking jurisdiction of the case to be moved from Orlando to Columbus. The Florida judge currently supervising the case says he will consult with his Ohio counterpart to settle jurisdictional issues.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/30/2009 11:31:14 PM   
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Her father has said she was brainwashed, but hear for yourself her zeal for the Lord Rifqa video LINK

She says that she was a closet Christian and afraid to come out of the closet in fear of harsh consequences. Something tells me that if she was gay and ran away from home out of fear there would be more of an outpouring of sympathy for her. Maybe this can be dragged on long enough for her to reach the age of 18 and she won't have to return home.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 9/30/2009 11:52:31 PM   
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Something tells me that if she was gay and ran away from home out of fear there would be more of an outpouring of sympathy for her.


I have no doubt that you would be proved right.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 10/1/2009 6:09:00 PM   
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We had an honor killing in TX last year where a father shot his two teen girls and the media first refused to state that it could have been an honor killing. Eventually the truth came out, but not sure why they didn't report the truth ealry on.


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The media is fearful of violent reprisals if they call it what it truly is.


The media reports facts, not speculation. If a police department has not charged anyone and has not called it an "honor killing" how can you expect the media to do so?

Often police play it very close to the vest until an arrest is made. I speak from volumes of personal experience.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 10/1/2009 6:20:51 PM   
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HERE is an article from the Florida Baptist Witness.

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According to Ergun Mehmet Caner, the threat to Rifqa for her rejection of Islam and conversion to Christianity is real. “There’s no question,” Caner said in an Aug. 27 interview with the Witness.

Caner, who converted to Christianity as a 16-year-old in Columbus, Ohio, grew-up in the mosque, the Islamic Foundation of Central Ohio, out of which the Bary family mosque, Noor Islamic Cultural Center, was started and remains connected.

Now a Baptist minister and president of Liberty Theological Seminary in Lynchburg, Va., Caner is a well-known apologist for the Christian faith – activity for which a fatwa, an Islamic religious ruling calling for his death, was issued last year “that put us on the road for a while.”

Because of his outspoken repudiation of Islam and defense of Christianity, Caner said he has to take special security precautions.

Caner and his two brothers, who became Christians within 14 months of his conversion, were disowned by their father, who was the architect of their Columbus mosque.

Rather than sending his sons back to their home country of Turkey, the decision of the eldest Caner to disown his children “was an act of mercy,” Caner told the Witness. Caner said his father died in 1999 as a Muslim, while his mother is now a Christian.

“When someone says, ‘Oh, it’s horrible what happened to you.’ No, what my father did was merciful,” Caner explained, noting his fate could have been much worse.

The risk of an “honor killing” – an obligation under Islamic law for those who reject Islam – is routine in Muslim nations.

According to World Net Daily, “The United Nations tabulates about 5,000 such ‘honor killings’ annually around the world, and they have been documented even in the United States.”

“This happens every sign day,” Caner said, pointing to organizations like Voice of the Martyrs and International Christian Concern that report on Christian persecution.

“How tragic is it that the murder of someone solely for their conversion would be considered routine? But this is 1,300 years of Islamic history,” Caner said.

Caner said the conversion of a female – especially a minor – is particularly offensive under Islam because the “daughter carries the honor in the family.”

He noted under Sharia law, four witnesses are required to validate a rape claim. “Otherwise, she is put to death because she brought dishonor to the family.”

Caner compared the fate of returning Rifqa to her Columbus home to that of Elian Gonzalez, the Cuban boy at the center of an international controversy in 2000 who was ultimately returned to his home country after a failed attempt to seek asylum in the U.S. on his behalf by Miami relatives.


This girl's parents just need to let her go and disown her, not endanger her life.
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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 10/13/2009 10:01:12 PM   
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Judge: Runaway Convert Should Go Home
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ORLANDO, Fla. (Oct. 13) - A Florida judge says he plans to order the teenager who ran away from Ohio to Florida because she feared physical harm for converting from Islam to Christianity sent back to Ohio.

The Orlando judge said Tuesday that he will sign the order when he gets the documents on 17-year-old Rifqa Bary's immigration status.

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RE: RIFQA BARY FACEBOOK FATWA: "WE NEED TO KILL HE... - 10/13/2009 11:24:37 PM   
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Judge: Runaway Convert Should Go Home
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ORLANDO, Fla. (Oct. 13) - A Florida judge says he plans to order the teenager who ran away from Ohio to Florida because she feared physical harm for converting from Islam to Christianity sent back to Ohio.

The Orlando judge said Tuesday that he will sign the order when he gets the documents on 17-year-old Rifqa Bary's immigration status.

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THIS article is a little more clear about what will happen when she goes home. I was looking for another article I saw earlier today that said she will return to foster care in Ohio and that she and her parents will have to have psychological testing done.
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