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ORIGINAL: navyblueret
Two of the crew of 347 died - including the Captain of the ship (a Lieutenant Commander) and a Chief Petty Officer.

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Since the contamination of the vaccination couldn't be blamed on an "honest mistake," newspapers immediately questioned whether the events were part of a conspiracy to deliberately provoke a pandemic, following up on accusations already made by health officials in other countries.

Jane Burgermeister contends that the WHO, the UN and high-ranking corporate government officials conspired with each other (and others) in a covert international program involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis.

The conspiracy entailed the bioengineering and then releasing of lethal biological agents -- specifically the “bird flu” virus and the “swine flu virus” in order to accelerate the pandemic by making the virus ever more virulent (with the addition of the Avian flu). This would then make an otherwise mild swine flu outbreak disastrous enough to justify forced mass vaccinations.

Such a forced mass vaccination program would rake in billions of dollars in vaccine revenues -- while the hoards of people who are vaccinated run the risk of suffering serious injury or even death in massive numbers!

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ORIGINAL: iluvatar

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ORIGINAL: navyblueret
Two of the crew of 347 died - including the Captain of the ship (a Lieutenant Commander) and a Chief Petty Officer.

Why would a lower-ranking officer be a "captain" of the ship?

-Dan.

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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
LOL. I can see you must not have been a swobby?

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ORIGINAL: iluvatar

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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
LOL. I can see you must not have been a swobby?

No, I haven't.

Why would a junior/mid-level officer be captaining a ship?

-Dan.

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ORIGINAL: navyblueret

Heh, Heh, Heh, you don't call a Lieutenant Commander a 'Lower rank' either, especially when they wear the 'Commanding Officer' insignia. Many smaller ships as well as less combative, use LCDR's as Commanding Officers. They do not become C/O's until they have been screened and trained to handle the position quite well. I only had one LCDR C/O that I held no combat respect for, until he told an Admiral to 'Go Fish,' to protect his crew. We liked him much better then. But, then, we didn't have to take a flu shot either (much more dangerous, me thinks).

I only present some of what I receive, as food for thought, and the decision as to go forth, or question, being the individual. We live in perilous times, where people happily will lie, to gain advantage, or harm others. OFU's, like myself, must now be more cautious. The Young, Immortal, types, are not prone to my old-age caution.

In Messiah. Arley

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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
It depends on the size of the ship and the size of the command.

There's a pecking order in all things.

I was on an aircraft carrier and our captain was a Captain (4 bars).
Being a flag ship we also had admirals on board.

And for the pecking order, in the Marines a captain is a lieutenant
in the Navy. But you dare not treat a Marine captain as a Navy lieutenant.

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ORIGINAL: navyblueret

I received the information from a Christian Brother in Europe, who keeps me up to date about some of the H1N1 problems, plus other EU items. Here is a bit more of what I received:

"SPREAD this FAST FAR and WIDE!! Let The People Know
From Bob Chapman's International Forecaster:

US MARKETS

Data gleaned indirectly from anonymous testimony of Navy wives of the affected crew via the internet radio show A Marine Disquisition <http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/1362067> :

Unnamed US Navy vessel put to sea in April with 347 man crew.
Entire crew was vaccinated with H1N1 Swine Flu vaccine shortly after they put to sea.
Crew sickened so severely that other ships had to respond to render aid. 16 Medical Dr.s put aboard from an unnamed aircraft carrier and other responding vessels. Total of 50 Navy personnel sent aboard to respond to crisis.
Two of the crew of 347 died - including the Captain of the ship (a Lieutenant Commander) and a Chief Petty Officer.
50 personnel sent aboard to help are quarantined in Navy hospital in Balboa, Spain after 10 of them caught the flu from the ship's crew. Two of the 50 quarantined are in serious condition at last report.
Of the 347 man crew that were vaccinated, 333 contracted the H1N1 flu FROM THE VACCINE. Two died, as mentioned above, and 331 survived. Only 14 of the 347 vaccinated sailors did not show any ill effects from the vaccine.

In Messiah. Arley

The H1N1 flu broke out and was identified in April ... and it takes months to formulate a vaccine ... so there's no way this mythical/hypothetical Navy ship received the H1N1 flu vaccine "shortly afterward" and all those people caught the flu FROM THE VACCINE, as this email forward indicates.

Common sense is a beautiful thing ... approach email forwards with caution.

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MARRIED TO A MILITARY PILOT ~ PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR TROOPS!

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ORIGINAL: Leslie_JnJs_mom

Wow police barging into homes to give a shot??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ayy6Rl_5YU

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(b) Furthermore, when the commissioner or a local public health authority within its jurisdiction determines that either or both of the following measures are necessary to prevent a serious danger to the public health the commissioner or local public health authority may exercise the following authority:

(1) to vaccinate or provide precautionary prophylaxis to individuals as protection against communicable disease and to prevent the spread of communicable or possibly communicable disease, provided that any vaccine to be administered must not be such as is reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual; and
(2) to treat individuals exposed to or infected with disease, provided that treatment must not be such as is reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual.
An individual who is unable or unwilling to submit to vaccination or treatment shall not be required to submit to such procedures but may be isolated or quarantined pursuant to section 96 of chapter 111 if his or her refusal poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health, as determined by the commissioner, or a local public health authority operating within its jurisdiction.

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(c) Isolation and quarantine orders must utilize the least restrictive means necessary to prevent a serious danger to public health, and may include, but are not limited to, restricting a person from being present in certain places including but not limited to school or work; confinement to private homes; confinement to other private or public premises; or isolation or quarantine of an area.
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(2) It shall be a violation of section 4 of chapter 151B for an employer to discharge or reduce any benefits of an employee because he or she is subject to an order of isolation or quarantine, or because a child under fifteen years of age of whom the wage earner has custody and responsibility is subject to an order of isolation or quarantine.

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[The Commissioner is authorized] to waive the commonwealth’s licensing requirements for health care professionals with a valid license from another state in the United States or whose professional training would otherwise qualify them for an appropriate professional license in the commonwealth

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ORIGINAL: Harvie

My wonderful DH is active duty military -- and the H1N1 flu vaccine isn't yet available for them to take. In addition to checking with the local fighter base, we also called a Naval Air Station located an hour away as well as Travis AFB near Sacramento ... and none of them have started H1N1 vaccinations .... because they are waiting on vaccines to arrive.

Just sayin' ...

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ORIGINAL: Milliecat

The news media has gone crazy in this country over something that hasn't happened yet. I don't believe that 28 pregnant women have died from H1N1. If they did, they probably had something else that weakened them. Pregnant women have very good immune systems. I think the government is trying to scare everyone and it makes me think they have something up their sleeve. I don't trust anything they do or say anymore!

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ORIGINAL: Milliecat

The news media has gone crazy in this country over something that hasn't happened yet. I don't believe that 28 pregnant women have died from H1N1. If they did, they probably had something else that weakened them. Pregnant women have very good immune systems. I think the government is trying to scare everyone and it makes me think they have something up their sleeve. I don't trust anything they do or say anymore!