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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 9/23/2009 10:40:24 AM
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What if they were 13, 15, and 16 yr olds riding an ATV? Would you do anything about that?
I suppose if the helmets were clearly there and available to wear - I would get on their case and tell them to put it on.
A year ago this past May, our community lost a little boy (5 or 6 years old) because he and his cousin (8) were riding an child-sized ATV on her farm just south of our small town. They came around the corner of the barn, slid on some mucky mud and was thrown from the ATV and hit the side of the barn with his head. He was killed instantly.
My best friends younger and only brother was killed this past weekend riding his motorcycle without a helmet and even tho he was an adult - he would be alive today if he had put the stupid thing on like she asked him to before he left her place that afternoon. He hit a deer going around a curve and lost control of his bike.
If stuff like this can happen to kids younger then teens and to grown adults who definitely know better (their older sister was killed in a similar accident 31 years ago) then it can happen to teens as well.
We have a neighbor girl that is almost 16 that has been racing ATV's or Quads since she was 8 or 9 years old. She has told me that many a racer has been disqualified and in some cases fined if they are even seen sitting on their ATV without their helmet and the engine is running.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/1/2009 9:56:59 PM
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I believe strongly that it takes a village to raise a child.
When I was younger, my mom often told us stories of neighbours administering correction/ discipline if parents were not around. Similarly, I grew up with the certain knowledge that my neighbours and just about any responsible adult would (with my parents' blessing) correct me verbally if I wasn't behaving appropriately. And my parents would not have tolerated my complaints about a dressing down from an "arbitrary" adult.
As a result of my job and volunteer work, I spend a lot of time around children including many I don't know well. I can't help it - if I see a child misbehaving or doing something dangerous, I will definitely say something! It probably won't be a lecture or a rant - but I'd definitely say, "You shouldn't be doing/ saying that" if the situation warrants it.
To date, I have never been told off for my "interference"
Maybe if we returned to the tradition of the village raising a child, society would not be faced with the behavioural issues we have today.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/1/2009 10:03:40 PM
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Given that only 10% of people really live by my values, I'm just not comfortable with the idea of them interfering for the purpose of teaching or correcting, as far as general parenting. Safety, yes, please step in -- but not the values based stuff.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/2/2009 1:38:40 PM
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Given that only 10% of people really live by my values, I'm just not comfortable with the idea of them interfering for the purpose of teaching or correcting, as far as general parenting. Safety, yes, please step in -- but not the values based stuff.
Agreed. And that goes for people giving my children permission to do things that I wouldn't normally do.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/2/2009 5:53:21 PM
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Given that only 10% of people really live by my values, I'm just not comfortable with the idea of them interfering for the purpose of teaching or correcting, as far as general parenting. Safety, yes, please step in -- but not the values based stuff.
Agreed. And that goes for people giving my children permission to do things that I wouldn't normally do.
THAT is one of my pet peeves....we actually had to leave a church because of people doing that with our kids.....they would go so far as to disagree with us in front of our children and say that it was okay for our kids to do "xyz"...when we had just said "no".
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/2/2009 6:40:18 PM
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Given that only 10% of people really live by my values, I'm just not comfortable with the idea of them interfering for the purpose of teaching or correcting, as far as general parenting. Safety, yes, please step in -- but not the values based stuff.
I totally agree with this. I have afriend who gave us a ride to the church and then the supermarket. As I was in the store, she took it upon herself to discpline my child physically.
I did not see it, but when my son asked for huggies I knew something was admist.
She said she spanked him for kicking the back seat of her carseat.
Needless to say I do not leave my child with anyone, even if I am gone for a minute. It was not warranted in mho. He is 3 y/o and I would not spank him over this.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/3/2009 9:13:55 AM
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Given that only 10% of people really live by my values, I'm just not comfortable with the idea of them interfering for the purpose of teaching or correcting, as far as general parenting. Safety, yes, please step in -- but not the values based stuff.
Agreed. And that goes for people giving my children permission to do things that I wouldn't normally do.
Agree.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/13/2009 11:50:54 AM
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I still agree with the list of acceptable times to correct my kids that was made early in this thread.
It does not take a village to raise a child unless there is a parent who is not doing their job, especially when it so often "the village" that are taking advantage and abusing children because the children feel they should trust and obey all the adults around them instead of having an invested and moral parent taking care of and watching out for them.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/13/2009 12:27:08 PM
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It does not take a village to raise a child unless there is a parent who is not doing their job, especially when it so often "the village" that are taking advantage and abusing children because the children feel they should trust and obey all the adults around them instead of having an invested and moral parent taking care of and watching out for them.
This deserves to be repeated even again . . . .
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It does not take a village to raise a child unless there is a parent who is not doing their job, especially when it so often "the village" that are taking advantage and abusing children because the children feel they should trust and obey all the adults around them instead of having an invested and moral parent taking care of and watching out for them.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 8:27:56 AM
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I have a question about this as a teacher. Obviously, I have to correct other people's kids to a certain extent, or chaos would ensue. However, I have noticed that many times when parents visit my classroom or come to their kids' programs, they just chat away while their kids run wild. They make no move to step in at all. Is this because teachers are present, and, if so, is it then okay for me to step in? I am a music teacher, and when they start jumping on the risers and turning off and on the microphones, I make them stop, and I don't care who it offends. Sometimes I want to get on one of those mics and say "I am setting up for your child's program. Could you please make an ATTEMPT to control them while I do so?" I would never ever say that, and I love our parents. It's just so frustrating. What would you suggest as parents in this sitch?
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 9:19:11 AM
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It kind of depends if the kids are on 'your time' and the parents are visiting (then I would expect you <or other teachers> to be doing all the tasks of occupying their attention and/or control as in a normal situation of waiting for something to start). If it's on 'their time' then I'd suggest that you ask them to arrive when the kids need to be involved, and make it pretty clear at the outset, like a greeting, "Hey, parents, thanks for coming. Our program will start in 20 minutes. Your kids are dismissed from school, and in your care until then. Please respect the stage and risers area."
If you know which kids belong with which parents, even without that announcement, simply walking the kid to the parent and saying, "Johnny, here's your mom. Mrs. Johnny, this is not the right time for Johnny to be on the stage, thanks."
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 9:40:37 AM
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I have a question about this as a teacher. Obviously, I have to correct other people's kids to a certain extent, or chaos would ensue. However, I have noticed that many times when parents visit my classroom or come to their kids' programs, they just chat away while their kids run wild. They make no move to step in at all. Is this because teachers are present, and, if so, is it then okay for me to step in? I am a music teacher, and when they start jumping on the risers and turning off and on the microphones, I make them stop, and I don't care who it offends. Sometimes I want to get on one of those mics and say "I am setting up for your child's program. Could you please make an ATTEMPT to control them while I do so?" I would never ever say that, and I love our parents. It's just so frustrating. What would you suggest as parents in this sitch?
When I used to day care, I would remind the children that when their parents were in the class room that they were still going to behave themselves. If they didn't when the parent dropped them off, as soon as I could turn my attention back to the class, that child was put in time out for the remainder of the play time.
Before the parents came to pick them up, I would remind the children that if they acted like yahoos when their parents picked them up that they would be in time out first thing the next day. The problem resolved within a week. I was amazed.
I have found that some parents simply did not care how their children acted. Many parents seem to not be switching gears from employee to parent very quickly and needed time to adjust.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 10:04:09 AM
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I have a question about this as a teacher. Obviously, I have to correct other people's kids to a certain extent, or chaos would ensue. However, I have noticed that many times when parents visit my classroom or come to their kids' programs, they just chat away while their kids run wild. They make no move to step in at all. Is this because teachers are present, and, if so, is it then okay for me to step in? I am a music teacher, and when they start jumping on the risers and turning off and on the microphones, I make them stop, and I don't care who it offends. Sometimes I want to get on one of those mics and say "I am setting up for your child's program. Could you please make an ATTEMPT to control them while I do so?" I would never ever say that, and I love our parents. It's just so frustrating. What would you suggest as parents in this sitch?
I am a parent that has been in this situation virtue of being a volunteer that helps sit up for programs and helps out in school on a very regular basis. It drives me absolutely crazy when I show up for a performance and find kids hanging out on the stage, messing with set pieces or pulling down art work the kids IN the program have worked hard to create and have displayed. Typically it's not the kids in the particular program that are a problem. It's other children both older and younger. I've been known, much to my husbands embarrassment and other parents irritation, tell - not ask- TELL kids to leave things alone and to get off the stage/risers and to show respect for others artwork and performance space. I actually had a parent ask me why her toddler (no more than 3 years old) couldn't be on the stage? ummm. . . Lets see? He's pulling down artwork not created by him and likely not by his sibling in the play, he's unplugged microphones TWICE and it's simply not safe for him to be up there! Thankfully I had a school administrator come up, to back me up.
I have NO trouble at all with a teacher getting on my kids if they are misbehaving at ANYTIME when we are in the school building.
I would suggest that you speak to your administration, your buildings principal and perhaps even the teachers and express your frustration concerning these programs and to have extra staff on hand to help you keep kids off the risers and seated in appropriate places. I would also make an announcement if you notice things beginning to get out of hand. Something to the effect - "I know that program time is a great time to catch up with each other, but I really need your assistance right now as I finish setting up for the program. If you could please help your children find seats we could get this started and all of us will be out of here and on our way home much faster." I would go even further and recruit some trusted responsible parents or teachers to help you by standing guard at those "big attractions" and shooing kids away while you finish sitting up.
As for your classroom - that is YOUR work space as well as the workspace of the children while they are IN school. Our music teacher ropes off her classroom on back to school night and while parents and kids can peak in the room and she's there to answer questions standing right at the door, no one is allowed in the space where the instruments are.
I agree with you that a lot of parents just abdicate their responsibility when teachers are present. And when they do (the parents that is) and it is in the school or at a school event - as a teacher I do think you are more than right to say something about it.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 10:22:20 AM
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See I probably wouldn't be a good teacher. I would announce over the microphone that I needed the parents to come get their children off the stage now. For those that didn't I would start announcing singly, "Could Johnny Smith's parent come get him off the stage immediately? Thank you."
Karen
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 12:43:01 PM
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Two years ago during the 3rd and 4th grade musical that my middle two were in one of the students, a rather brave soul, was performing a guitar solo. This was a 4th (now 6th) grader that has worked incredibly hard and is very good at what he does. He was to perform a short little solo at the beginning and then again in the middle of the performance. So the lights come up and the spot is on him with the other kids standing on risers behind him on the stage. He starts playing and gets about half way through his piece that's 3 minutes long and he stops. He just sat there for a minute looking at the music teacher whose trying to coax him to move on, while there is still a ton of chit-chat happening in the audience. He looks up at his mother who was sitting just in front of me and she nods. He gets up and walks to a nearby mic and calmly asks for EVERYONE'S attention. He had it because people were beginning to notice that he had stopped playing. He looks at his classmates and tells the audience of all the hard work that the kids behind him had put into this performance and about how much time and energy the music teacher and classroom teachers and even the art teacher and other support staff had put into getting this ready. He then asked that everyone put their phones on vibrate and to PLEASE be quiet and if they needed to talk then there was a nice seating area just down the hallway. Then he walks back to his guitar and starts over.
There wasn't a peep out of ANYONE for the remainder of that performance.
Sometimes all it takes is for the performance to stop.
Sure some folks are not going to like being called on their lack of respect. Sure some folks are going to be mad about it. But I think that there will be far more that say - "THANK YOU! Someone finally did what should have been done a LONG time ago.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 12:58:03 PM
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That reminds of when Hugh Jackman heard a cell phone go off in the middle of his Broadway production and he addressed the phone holder. 
I think I would have died if that were me.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 2:16:34 PM
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totally agree with this. I have afriend who gave us a ride to the church and then the supermarket. As I was in the store, she took it upon herself to discpline my child physically.
I did not see it, but when my son asked for huggies I knew something was admist.
She said she spanked him for kicking the back seat of her carseat.
My son not being allowed to go back out with her would have been the least of this woman's worries.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 2:32:35 PM
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What would you do if you had a brat tearing apart a grocery store or coffee house, and her/his parents were ignoring it?
Can't really talk to the parents because they do not care. I watched where a poor woman approached the parents and the parents almost assaulted the old lady.
LEO isn't coming out. The shop is scared of law suit.
So, what do you do?
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 2:43:11 PM
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I would talk to the manager of the store. Taking care of unruly customers and looking out for the safety of the people in their store is their responsibility.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 3:10:58 PM
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I heard of a case like that. The owner came out and banned them from the store. The parents tried to sue, but luckily the store had a camera, and when the judge saw the tape he dismissed their suit.
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RE: On other adults correcting children What do you th... - 10/16/2009 3:26:37 PM
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My son not being allowed to go back out with her would have been the least of this woman's worries.
Jenn, you and I are on the same page with this. After she and I discussed the situation, I am sure she would keep her hands to herself from then on. Truthfully, I would go ballistic. I am not proud of that but I am sure my momma bear would come to the forefront.
Karen
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