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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/15/2009 2:03:56 PM
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jazzact13
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I think I have better things to waste my money on.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/16/2009 12:16:54 AM
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I don't really have interest in Moore or the topic, and general don't have interest in documentaries to begin with.
However, he was a guest on The Jay Leno Show tonight and I liked what he had to say on the subject. I still have no interest in seeing the movie... but I suspect this will be his best movie, regardless.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/16/2009 5:29:03 AM
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i may download it, what with him hating capitalism so much...
i am interested in seeing it though... just to see how many skewed biased oppinions he can come up with this time around :D
i did like colombine. it was a good flick.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/16/2009 11:05:25 AM
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I may see it. I did like Bowling For Columbine. I think her brings out points that we don't nornally see because they are judgement can be very clouded. I'm not saying he's 100% correct, but I think he has a view of things that's worth watching.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/17/2009 8:44:37 AM
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moore is as biased as limbaugh is. being a republican i wont watch it. i agree with larry the cable guy. will buy michael moore dvd's to level out a chair leg only.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/17/2009 3:21:06 PM
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So, a man who gets rich through capitalism trashes capitalism. Make sense to anyone else?
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/17/2009 3:51:49 PM
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hollywood is full of weiny liberals.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/17/2009 6:07:21 PM
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No one should ever agree with someone who calls themselves Larry the Cable Guy. Not to mention his comedy is so broad and tailor-made for people stupidly falling to their deaths from the balcony at a Lynyrd Skynyrd show. (That was an incident from the 90's.)
Michael Moore is generally dumb, very biased, and meant to provoke a response. He's an entertainer, not a maker of documentaries. If you don't know that by now...then you will never, never know him.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/17/2009 11:52:20 PM
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Michael Moore is a demonstrated liar, many times over. I thought he might have had a heart attack or chocked to death on a side of beef by now, but here he is again and the saddest part is that he is still being taken seriously. I don't get it. I wouldn't go see anything he made even if HE paid ME to do so. I kill enough brain cells on a regular basis through my own stupidity. I would probably go comatose after a Moore film killed the rest.
Someone should lock Moore, Maher, and Garofalo in a house for a month, with only a week's worth of food and water and see what happens. My bet is that Moore eats both of them within three days.
Joking, people... joking. 
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/18/2009 9:39:53 AM
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Michael Moore is a demonstrated liar, many times over. I thought he might have had a heart attack or chocked to death on a side of beef by now, but here he is again and the saddest part is that he is still being taken seriously. I don't get it. I wouldn't go see anything he made even if HE paid ME to do so. I kill enough brain cells on a regular basis through my own stupidity. I would probably go comatose after a Moore film killed the rest.
Someone should lock Moore, Maher, and Garofalo in a house for a month, with only a week's worth of food and water and see what happens. My bet is that Moore eats both of them within three days.
Joking, people... joking.
I think Moore is biased/slanted in his documentaries and probably expects most people to know that by now, but I wouldn't call him an all out liar from what I've seen. Maybe he is in some specific areas (like claiming to not own stocks, yet havnig a huge portfolio full of them - including Halliburton, the company he criticizes in his work), but I was under the impression he was mostly just an open Leftist filmmaker. I disagree with the one-sided nature to Moore's political commentary, but I think he does offer up some good points at times. I just wish Moore was more balanced in his work. I feel he tells one half of the story to everything, LOL. 
I did wonder about Moore's weight problem and why after being a millionaire that he has not invested in his own health a bit more. Weighing 400 lbs at his age cannot be good for his heart. Although, some weight issues are heredity and genetic and aren't merely due to over-eating/lack of exercise.
I actually think a lot of Americans might go out to see this latest film from Moore due to the nature of the topic and the ongoing recession. Yes, lots of people are unemployed and might not a lot of have money to spend on movies, but perhaps people want to hear Moore's interpretation of the economic meltdown for some sense of understanding of things (even if it's a biased slant). I have to admit that there are many thnigs I dislike about Michael Moore - both his work and his personality - but I am curious about what he has to say in this latest film.
I kind of felt Moore started out seemingly legit in his work, especially with Bowling for Columbine. I thought BFC was a masterpiece and pretty enlightening. But then Moore's follow-ups of Fahrenheit 9/11 and Sicko seemed much more openly biased to me. And Moore's personality in public seemed much more irritating. Maybe he was always like that and his rise to popularity only exposed him for who he already was and gave him a greater outlet to speak, but I did like Moore better before he was a mega-star. I wonder if the fame and money got to him or if he was always like that.
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I thought he might have had a heart attack or chocked to death on a side of beef by now ...
Someone should lock Moore, Maher, and Garofalo in a house for a month, with only a week's worth of food and water and see what happens. My bet is that Moore eats both of them within three days.
Joking, people... joking.
These are jokes?
Those do seem kind of mean-spirited. The heart-attack part was pretty bad.
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No one should ever agree with someone who calls themselves Larry the Cable Guy. Not to mention his comedy is so broad and tailor-made for people stupidly falling to their deaths from the balcony at a Lynyrd Skynyrd show. (That was an incident from the 90's.)
Michael Moore is generally dumb, very biased, and meant to provoke a response. He's an entertainer, not a maker of documentaries. If you don't know that by now...then you will never, never know him.
I don't know if I'd call M. Moore dumb, but simply just biased. I agree he does try to entertain and push his views more than striving for balanced truth.
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So, a man who gets rich through capitalism trashes capitalism. Make sense to anyone else?
Yes, there is great irony in that. Just to think Moore would probably be locked up and maybe killed in some countries for speaking out against his nation. I've wondered about if Moore has thought about the irony of his views and the "evil" capitalist system and democracy taht's made his work possible and also made him millions of dollars.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/18/2009 2:28:09 PM
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I think Moore is biased/slanted in his documentaries and probably expects most people to know that by now, but I wouldn't call him an all out liar from what I've seen. Maybe he is in some specific areas (like claiming to not own stocks, yet havnig a huge portfolio full of them - including Halliburton, the company he criticizes in his work), but I was under the impression he was mostly just an open Leftist filmmaker. I disagree with the one-sided nature to Moore's political commentary, but I think he does offer up some good points at times. I just wish Moore was more balanced in his work. I feel he tells one half of the story to everything, LOL.
I think that is a good way to put it. You can't necessarily rely on Moore as though he was an unbiased news source (if such a thing even exists), but he does bring up some interesting points. He has made it clear many times that he is biased and that his films are his films so they will portray his point of view. Fair enough - it just means you should watch with a healthy dose of skepticism and be ready to do some research on your own afterwards to find out the full story.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/18/2009 9:56:26 PM
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I think Moore has kind of been scooped by the internet in much the same way that most of the traditional media has been. In the age of political blogs, editorials like his are ubiquitous and free. I had the same reaction to Sicko. Most of the info in it was stuff we already know re-arranged into movie form. Plus Moore is way too famous now to do the sort of "confrontation" type stuff that he got famous on, so his newer movies aren't really as entertaining.
But, yeah, he is really biased, and his documentaries are basically just editorials, and they should be viewed as such (i.e. with an awareness to things like editing, rhetorical construction, etc, etc). Which means that you should always take his films as being arguments, and evaluate their merits like you would any argument. I just hope that the people who will complain about Moore's form of editorial documentary will maintain the same level of critical distance and skepticism when viewing similar documentaries that might share their own agenda (like Ben Stein's "Expelled," for example).
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/27/2009 2:17:37 PM
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... general don't have interest in documentaries to begin with.
Actually, I DO like documentaries, and that is exactly the reason I will NOT be seeing Moore's latest. He doesn't make documentaries. He makes heavily biased, subjective pseudodocumentaries, often using falsified information or information that, while originally valid, has been taken out of context to make his own point which was not the intent of the original speaker.
Of course, if he's really THAT upset over capitalism, Moore should foot the bill for all the production costs, himself, and not charge any admission for the movie - even insisting that no theatres accept any payment.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 9/28/2009 9:09:24 AM
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... general don't have interest in documentaries to begin with.
Actually, I DO like documentaries, and that is exactly the reason I will NOT be seeing Moore's latest. He doesn't make documentaries. He makes heavily biased, subjective pseudodocumentaries, often using falsified information or information that, while originally valid, has been taken out of context to make his own point which was not the intent of the original speaker.
Of course, if he's really THAT upset over capitalism, Moore should foot the bill for all the production costs, himself, and not charge any admission for the movie - even insisting that no theatres accept any payment.
All documentaries are biased - they are the product of a film-makers desire to tell a story. The difference is that with political documentaries we are much more sensitive to it. Documentary is a form of story-telling, it is not reportage.
That said, Moore's doorstepping techniques are not great, and his questions tend to be of the "when did you stop beating your wife" variety - kind of like the stuff you see on O'Reilly factor as well.
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RE: "Capitalism: A Love Story" (new Michael... - 10/2/2009 6:01:51 PM
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I saw this movie today. Really enjoyed it.......made alot of sense, and was like, wow!
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I actually am interested in seeing this one, despite not liking his last film Sicko that much. I think the topic is one that is interesting to me. 
