|
|
|
|
|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
Login  | |
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/1/2009 11:18:16 AM
|
|
|
cposey
Posts: 314
Joined: 8/20/2009
Status: offline
|
My honest opinion is that God focuses on our hearts whatever the action. We as Christians need to learn to do the same. Sin is simply what seperates us from God. If something doesn't seperate us from God than it is not a sin. Things may be unwise, but they are not sins. If you don't want a tattoo, then don't get one. But don't claim that others sin by getting one. Try and not focus so much on the letter of the law, but on the heart behing the law. Then you will find God's heart, and thats all that really matters, isn't it.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/1/2009 4:47:52 PM
|
|
|
Bluethread
Posts: 2930
Joined: 11/8/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: cposey
My honest opinion is that God focuses on our hearts whatever the action. We as Christians need to learn to do the same. Sin is simply what seperates us from God. If something doesn't seperate us from God than it is not a sin. Things may be unwise, but they are not sins. If you don't want a tattoo, then don't get one. But don't claim that others sin by getting one. Try and not focus so much on the letter of the law, but on the heart behing the law. Then you will find God's heart, and thats all that really matters, isn't it.
The problem with this argument is determining where unwise ends and sin begins. Is Adonai pleased when we act in an unwise manner? The books of David and Shlomo (Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiaties and the Song of Shlomo) repeatedly tell us that the definition of wise behavior is living in accordance with Adonai's ways and unwise behavior tends to seperate us from Adonai.
_____________________________
"Show me wherein I have errored and I will hold my tongue." Iyov(Job)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/1/2009 4:56:49 PM
|
|
|
Eutychus
Posts: 6377
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: Dothan, AL
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Bluethread
quote:
ORIGINAL: cposey
My honest opinion is that God focuses on our hearts whatever the action. We as Christians need to learn to do the same. Sin is simply what seperates us from God. If something doesn't seperate us from God than it is not a sin. Things may be unwise, but they are not sins. If you don't want a tattoo, then don't get one. But don't claim that others sin by getting one. Try and not focus so much on the letter of the law, but on the heart behing the law. Then you will find God's heart, and thats all that really matters, isn't it.
The problem with this argument is determining where unwise ends and sin begins. Is Adonai pleased when we act in an unwise manner? The books of David and Shlomo (Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiaties and the Song of Shlomo) repeatedly tell us that the definition of wise behavior is living in accordance with Adonai's ways and unwise behavior tends to seperate us from Adonai.
How would you characterize Hezekiah when he showed the Babylonians all his treasure? It certainly was unwise because of the serious consequences to his descendents, but I see no evidence that the unwise action separated him God.
_____________________________
Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent." -John 6:29
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/1/2009 5:28:59 PM
|
|
|
Bluethread
Posts: 2930
Joined: 11/8/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Eutychus
How would you characterize Hezekiah when he showed the Babylonians all his treasure? It certainly was unwise because of the serious consequences to his descendents, but I see no evidence that the unwise action separated him God.
In that phase of his life Hezekiah was very callous with regard to his children. The fact that he was unconcerned about the direct consequences because they would not occur in his time does not mean that he did not experience a seperation from Adonai.
He had been saved from Assyria because of he had followed Adonai better than any of the kings oof the northern kingdom. However, after his begging Adonai to let him live longer, he became increasingly resistant to Adonai's Spirit and the is one example of that.
Also, it is generally considered a great insult to threaten ones children. The fact that this did not bother Hezekiah, shows how far he had drifted from Adonai.
_____________________________
"Show me wherein I have errored and I will hold my tongue." Iyov(Job)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/2/2009 12:58:31 PM
|
|
|
cposey
Posts: 314
Joined: 8/20/2009
Status: offline
|
The line that you draw is your conviction. If you are convicted to not have a tattoo, drink, smoke, etc. than don't do it. However it is not wise to teach others that it is a sin. None of these are a sin in and of itself. The obsession or habit forming of these might be, but not the act itself is not. We are not called to teach others about these things that are convictions for our personal walk. We are however called to teach the gospel of Christ. nowhere in the Gospel does it address these things so why would we teach anything to the contrary.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/2/2009 4:15:40 PM
|
|
|
Bluethread
Posts: 2930
Joined: 11/8/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: cposey
The line that you draw is your conviction. If you are convicted to not have a tattoo, drink, smoke, etc. than don't do it. However it is not wise to teach others that it is a sin. None of these are a sin in and of itself. The obsession or habit forming of these might be, but not the act itself is not. We are not called to teach others about these things that are convictions for our personal walk. We are however called to teach the gospel of Christ. nowhere in the Gospel does it address these things so why would we teach anything to the contrary.
The Apistolic Writings do not address marrying one's sister either. Should we not discourage this practice. If you meant the say the Scriptures, how else to we learn if we do not discuss the various nuances of the Scriptures. I do not think one is doing another person a favors if one just lets them follow a set of principles that they never question.
_____________________________
"Show me wherein I have errored and I will hold my tongue." Iyov(Job)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/4/2009 9:34:45 PM
|
|
|
jbow
Posts: 162
Joined: 2/16/2007
From: Dixie
Status: offline
|
I don't know about tattoos, never had to cross that bridge but other people's tattoos don't bother me as long as they aren't obscene or offensive to me in some other way.
I like a good lager, maybe two... but usually one and a half max.
I like a good mild cigar but only occasionally, two or three in a month. If I smoke a cigar i'll have a scotch and water and sit on the porch and read a book.
FWIW, if you like a good cigar you are in good company with Charles Haddon Spurgeon who also liked a good cigar.
However, if it offended someone who may happened to be around, i'd abstain. It isn't important to me, I can take it or leave it. Just don't expect me to stop drinking Coke...
Now... I used to be a drunk and quite the little hippie drug abuser and I smoked a lot of cigarettes.
Now I have been set free and whom the Son sets free is free indeed. I am no longer in bondage to these things and enjoy them occasionally (not the illegal stuff) in moderation. Neither am I under the bondage of the legalism of total abstinence... life is so much better this way.
God is good but I am not. However... I am dead and my life is hid in Christ with God... this life exchange stuff is GOOD! My life was that of a monster, my flesh is really, really bad. It needed to die and still has to die daily. It always dies a screaming death too. I don't worry though because since my life is hid in Christ... I cannot lose it. YEAAAAHHH... good news!!
Thank God for Christ and His willingness to take my life with Him to the cross and give me His! I can't wait to get my crown so I can throw it at His feet. He has been so merciful to me, so patient and forgiving. Such love cannot be described by the words of man. It is too deep.
I am free!!!
Julien
_____________________________
"These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world."
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/8/2009 1:31:54 PM
|
|
|
CMT8808
Posts: 248
Joined: 9/4/2009
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Bluethread
quote:
ORIGINAL: cposey
The line that you draw is your conviction. If you are convicted to not have a tattoo, drink, smoke, etc. than don't do it. However it is not wise to teach others that it is a sin. None of these are a sin in and of itself. The obsession or habit forming of these might be, but not the act itself is not. We are not called to teach others about these things that are convictions for our personal walk. We are however called to teach the gospel of Christ. nowhere in the Gospel does it address these things so why would we teach anything to the contrary.
The Apistolic Writings do not address marrying one's sister either. Should we not discourage this practice. If you meant the say the Scriptures, how else to we learn if we do not discuss the various nuances of the Scriptures. I do not think one is doing another person a favors if one just lets them follow a set of principles that they never question.
Although morally we may believe it is sinful to marry our sister/brother. However you are overlooking Abraham, whom God gave the promise to was married to his sister.
When he (Abraham) feared his life entering the city, asked his wife/sister to tell the king that she was his sister only. He did this twice and our Jehovah forgave him (Abraham) of this.
On a side note: If God, Adonai, Jehovah, Jesus, Holy Spirit give you a personal conviction, than it is for you alone. Not for you to try to instill, condemn, or oppress another with your burden.
It was meant for you and your *personal* walk.
I have 2 tattoos. 1 I removed, but the other is still intact and others can not see it.
Smoking is not a sin and there really is no scripture to say otherwise, we just know it is not healthy for us.
2000 years ago when Jesus was amongst us in the flesh, it was a common practice of the days to use cocaine and opium for ailments. But do we use this practice today? No, why because we learned it is not a permanant or good remedy eventhough it is a natural substance and was created by Him.
stop with the planking pushing on your personal convictions, please.
CMT
_____________________________
formerly Delete 123
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/8/2009 7:42:18 PM
|
|
|
Bluethread
Posts: 2930
Joined: 11/8/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: CMT8808
Although morally we may believe it is sinful to marry our sister/brother. However you are overlooking Abraham, whom God gave the promise to was married to his sister.
When he (Abraham) feared his life entering the city, asked his wife/sister to tell the king that she was his sister only. He did this twice and our Jehovah forgave him (Abraham) of this.
If you wish to discuss the application of the commandments to Avaraham, that is fine. However, the point was being made that "nowhere in the Gospel does it address these things so why would we teach anything to the contrary." Therefore, the actions of Avraham are not to be taken into consideration either. So, the question stands. Since the gospels do not address marrying one's sister, or even homosexuality, why would we teach anything to the contrary?
quote:
On a side note: If God, Adonai, Jehovah, Jesus, Holy Spirit give you a personal conviction, than it is for you alone. Not for you to try to instill, condemn, or oppress another with your burden.
It was meant for you and your *personal* walk.
Does this principle apply to one's interpretation of the Scriptures? That is only for one's personal walk and one is not to share those views with others?
quote:
2000 years ago when Jesus was amongst us in the flesh, it was a common practice of the days to use cocaine and opium for ailments. But do we use this practice today? No, why because we learned it is not a permanant or good remedy eventhough it is a natural substance and was created by Him.
That is not correct. These are still available for medicinal purposes. Products dervied from these are "controlled substances". It is recreational use that is prohibited.
_____________________________
"Show me wherein I have errored and I will hold my tongue." Iyov(Job)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/8/2009 9:29:33 PM
|
|
|
CMT8808
Posts: 248
Joined: 9/4/2009
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Bluethread
f you wish to discuss the application of the commandments to Avaraham, that is fine. However, the point was being made that "nowhere in the Gospel does it address these things so why would we teach anything to the contrary." Therefore, the actions of Avraham are not to be taken into consideration either. So, the question stands. Since the gospels do not address marrying one's sister, or even homosexuality, why would we teach anything to the contrary?
You are the one who brought up the subject on siblings marrying, not me. However Abraham is not to be discounted since he is the one God gave the promise of the seed to. And it was simply because he had faith and believed God's word, without any lawsestablished.
quote:
On a side note: If God, Adonai, Jehovah, Jesus, Holy Spirit give you a personal conviction, than it is for you alone. Not for you to try to instill, condemn, or oppress another with your burden.
It was meant for you and your *personal* walk.
quote:
Does this principle apply to one's interpretation of the Scriptures? That is only for one's personal walk and one is not to share those views with others?
You can share what the Holy Spirit has revealed to you, but just remember HE revealed it to you, for a purpose for your life, not to burden or oppress someone else with your conviction.
quote:
2000 years ago when Jesus was amongst us in the flesh, it was a common practice of the days to use cocaine and opium for ailments. But do we use this practice today? No, why because we learned it is not a permanant or good remedy eventhough it is a natural substance and was created by Him.
That is not correct. These are still available for medicinal purposes. Products dervied from these are "controlled substances". It is recreational use that is prohibited.
Oh excuse me, I left out that they did this daily!!!!  Sounds recreational to me....
CMT
_____________________________
formerly Delete 123
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/9/2009 7:16:52 AM
|
|
|
cposey
Posts: 314
Joined: 8/20/2009
Status: offline
|
quote:
So, the question stands. Since the gospels do not address marrying one's sister, or even homosexuality, why would we teach anything to the contrary?
Just remember that for every letter that you teach to others, God will hold you accoutable. Teach whatever you want, but be careful because His truth is the only truth that correct. Make sure it is His truth and not a conviction for yourself. There is a huge difference in the Gospel of Christ and the gospels. All of those issues are in the Gospel of Christ. However the drinking, smoking, tattoos, etc. are not.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/9/2009 5:03:35 PM
|
|
|
Bluethread
Posts: 2930
Joined: 11/8/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: cposey
quote:
So, the question stands. Since the gospels do not address marrying one's sister, or even homosexuality, why would we teach anything to the contrary?
Just remember that for every letter that you teach to others, God will hold you accoutable. Teach whatever you want, but be careful because His truth is the only truth that correct. Make sure it is His truth and not a conviction for yourself. There is a huge difference in the Gospel of Christ and the gospels. All of those issues are in the Gospel of Christ. However the drinking, smoking, tattoos, etc. are not.
I guess we need to determine what constitutes "the Gospel of Christ". Could you please tell me what is included in "the Gospel of Christ" and what is excluded from it?
_____________________________
"Show me wherein I have errored and I will hold my tongue." Iyov(Job)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/9/2009 5:16:59 PM
|
|
|
Bluethread
Posts: 2930
Joined: 11/8/2007
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: CMT8808
quote:
ORIGINAL: Bluethread
f you wish to discuss the application of the commandments to Avaraham, that is fine. However, the point was being made that "nowhere in the Gospel does it address these things so why would we teach anything to the contrary." Therefore, the actions of Avraham are not to be taken into consideration either. So, the question stands. Since the gospels do not address marrying one's sister, or even homosexuality, why would we teach anything to the contrary?
You are the one who brought up the subject on siblings marrying, not me. However Abraham is not to be discounted since he is the one God gave the promise of the seed to. And it was simply because he had faith and believed God's word, without any lawsestablished.
I brought up the subject as an example of something that is not refered to in the Apistolic Writings(NT). If you wish to discuss your contention that Avraham did not live in accordance to the commandments regarding incest, fine. However, if one is not to look beyond the Apistolic Writings(NT) for instructions, this is a moot issue.
quote:
quote:
Does this principle apply to one's interpretation of the Scriptures? That is only for one's personal walk and one is not to share those views with others?
You can share what the Holy Spirit has revealed to you, but just remember HE revealed it to you, for a purpose for your life, not to burden or oppress someone else with your conviction.
What do you mean when you say "burden or oppress". At least as far as these forums are concerned, I have not way of forcing others to live by my standards.
quote:
quote:
quote:
2000 years ago when Jesus was amongst us in the flesh, it was a common practice of the days to use cocaine and opium for ailments. But do we use this practice today? No, why because we learned it is not a permanant or good remedy eventhough it is a natural substance and was created by Him.
That is not correct. These are still available for medicinal purposes. Products dervied from these are "controlled substances". It is recreational use that is prohibited.
Oh excuse me, I left out that they did this daily!!!! Sounds recreational to me....
CMT
Emphasis Mine
When one talks of treating ailments, that usually does not refer to recreational use. On that point, I would say that in their natural form, coca leaves and opium sap are not necessarily bad. As has been said, "Poison is in the dosage." Therefore, it is the distillation process that is the problem. Distilled sugars are just as dangerous for the diabetic as are "controlled substances".
< Message edited by Bluethread -- 10/9/2009 5:52:08 PM >
_____________________________
"Show me wherein I have errored and I will hold my tongue." Iyov(Job)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/13/2009 8:17:02 AM
|
|
|
brandee38
Posts: 3
Joined: 10/13/2009
Status: offline
|
I think all these things are matters of the heart if you are not convicted as them being sin then use discernment. Drinking can be enjoyed to get merry, happy, or buzzed to certain extent without impairing your judgement. It is when you get to point in your drinking you let down your guard and start actiong immoral.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/13/2009 10:27:33 AM
|
|
|
drmark
Posts: 4637
Joined: 7/10/2006
Status: offline
|
Welcome to the Forums, brandee!
quote:
Drinking can be enjoyed to get merry, happy, or buzzed to certain extent without impairing your judgement. I'm sorry, brandee, but as a physician, I must address this fallacy. If someone is drinking to the point of getting "buzzed", then their judgement and performance is absolutely impaired! I can provide numerous references from the medical literature to show this fact, if you wish.
_____________________________
Jeremiah 31:31-34. The time is NOW, fellow saints!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/13/2009 11:10:27 AM
|
|
|
Eutychus
Posts: 6377
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: Dothan, AL
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: drmark
Welcome to the Forums, brandee!
quote:
Drinking can be enjoyed to get merry, happy, or buzzed to certain extent without impairing your judgement. I'm sorry, brandee, but as a physician, I must address this fallacy. If someone is drinking to the point of getting "buzzed", then their judgement and performance is absolutely impaired! I can provide numerous references from the medical literature to show this fact, if you wish.
That brings to mind that I've heard several reports that conclude using a cell phone impairs a driver as much as two or three drinks. So I think we need to add cell phone usage to our list of sins.
FWIW, I don't own a cell phone.
_____________________________
Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent." -John 6:29
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/13/2009 11:22:28 AM
|
|
|
drmark
Posts: 4637
Joined: 7/10/2006
Status: offline
|
quote:
So I think we need to add cell phone usage to our list of sins. Anything that deliberately interferes with the safe operation of a 3000 pound vehicle travelling at 60 mph which endangers the lives of others is sin... 
_____________________________
Jeremiah 31:31-34. The time is NOW, fellow saints!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/13/2009 10:54:28 PM
|
|
|
WomanOfVictory
Posts: 16
Joined: 10/12/2009
Status: offline
|
If it does any harm to the body, know that God commanded us in His word not to harm the body in which God have created us. God do not want us harmed.
_____________________________
~God's Child, Tyhera~
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/13/2009 11:28:10 PM
|
|
|
brandee38
Posts: 3
Joined: 10/13/2009
Status: offline
|
i am talking about drinking very slowly and over a long period of time, say 6 beers in 5-6 hours if that. I do not drive after having one drink when i go out I have the wisdom to know better and I believe God tells me when I have had enough. Thanks for all the input you had to offer, God Bless you.
quote:
ORIGINAL: drmark
Welcome to the Forums, brandee!
quote:
Drinking can be enjoyed to get merry, happy, or buzzed to certain extent without impairing your judgement. I'm sorry, brandee, but as a physician, I must address this fallacy. If someone is drinking to the point of getting "buzzed", then their judgement and performance is absolutely impaired! I can provide numerous references from the medical literature to show this fact, if you wish.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/14/2009 6:23:02 AM
|
|
|
cposey
Posts: 314
Joined: 8/20/2009
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: drmark
quote:
So I think we need to add cell phone usage to our list of sins. Anything that deliberately interferes with the safe operation of a 3000 pound vehicle travelling at 60 mph which endangers the lives of others is sin...
I am hoping you are joking right?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/14/2009 9:50:12 AM
|
|
|
PastorSteveMT
Posts: 110
Joined: 5/27/2009
Status: offline
|
I'm not going to get into whether any of the afore mentioned things are sin or not.
But what I do want to address, which I believe to be pertenent to the conversation, is the particular set of thinking that seems to have invaded true Biblical Christianity.
Our society is very much a "if it feels good, do it" society. And it bothers me to no end that the same line of thinking has taken over many "Christians" today but they just word it different. Some use terms such as "my freedom in Christ" or "that's your conviction not mine" or any other argument that goes along this same vein.
I know many may not believe this, but I am probably against legalism more than anyone, but this line of thinking is destroying American Christianity.
I believe that most of us fall into the category of "if I do it or like to do it, it isn't a sin", and "if I don't like it or don't do it, it is a sin". I hear arguments on both sides of the issue.
However, very few people want to really know what the Bible says or maybe they just don't care. When are we going to set aside what we like to do and therefore it must not be sin, and what we don't like to do and therefore it must be sin and instead look at the whole of Scripture and let that be the determining factor in all of our decisions?
I don't say this lightly. I find myself doing the same thing. I like to justify much of my own behavior because it's something I like to do. But true Biblical Christianity is suffering because of it. Christ name is being drug lower and lower because of it. And American Christians are losing their influence on the lost world because of it.
We are not here on this earth for our own pleasure. We are here for HIS purposes. We are here to do HIS work. We are not here to be happy, financially secure, or anything else that we have talked ourselves into believing we deserve.
We are still here to help the lost find there way to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. Which means that some of what WE like to do that may be detrimental to the Kingdom of God may have to be things that we fore go in this life for the Kingdoms sake.
After all, this whole thing is not about US....it's about HIM.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/14/2009 10:31:55 AM
|
|
|
cow451
Posts: 3755
Joined: 5/6/2005
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: drmark
Welcome to the Forums, brandee!
quote:
Drinking can be enjoyed to get merry, happy, or buzzed to certain extent without impairing your judgement. I'm sorry, brandee, but as a physician, I must address this fallacy. If someone is drinking to the point of getting "buzzed", then their judgement and performance is absolutely impaired! I can provide numerous references from the medical literature to show this fact, if you wish.
Once again doc and I have found common ground. I'll add that "DUI Schools" thrive on that level of ignorance.
_____________________________
"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border." Sarah Palin
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/15/2009 6:24:59 AM
|
|
|
cposey
Posts: 314
Joined: 8/20/2009
Status: offline
|
Pastor Steve that was an excellent post and i do think that the feel good things are taking over Christianity. However to me God looks at the heart of things. If we define sin as seperating us from God, than some things maybe unwise or have no purpose than to please ourselves. But how does that seperate us from God. Good things being done aren't always done with the intent to honor God. Therefore those good things neither draw us closer or seperate us from God. The same is with our convictions. There are a lot of things that we do that aren't seperating us from God, but don't draw us closer either. Some examples may be watching TV, reading the newspaper, reading a book. There are definetly some things in HIS word that HE says are sins. The other vague things not mentioned, we each have to decide in our personal walk if they seperate us from HIM. Just because something doesn't draw us closer to HIM doesn't necessarily mean it seperates us(sin). Outward appearences mean nothing, but the heart behind them means everything.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/15/2009 9:49:26 AM
|
|
|
drmark
Posts: 4637
Joined: 7/10/2006
Status: offline
|
quote:
I am hoping you are joking right? Not in the least! Endangering the health and welfare of innocent people by knowingly and willingly performing dangerous tasks under the influence of mind-altering chemicals is sin, period!
_____________________________
Jeremiah 31:31-34. The time is NOW, fellow saints!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A sin to drink, smoke, have a tatto, etc...? - 10/16/2009 7:17:01 AM
|
|
|
cposey
Posts: 314
Joined: 8/20/2009
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: drmark
quote:
I am hoping you are joking right? Not in the least! Endangering the health and welfare of innocent people by knowingly and willingly performing dangerous tasks under the influence of mind-altering chemicals is sin, period!
So then coffee, cell phones, energy drinks or pills are all sins then. Just trying to get what you are saying. I understand endangering others being a sin, but to blanket say anything that alters a person is a sin i don't understand.
|
|
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
 Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forum Tools
Printable Version
