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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/3/2009 1:22:44 PM
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stellaluna
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I think what struck me most about this was the brazenness of Letterman's announcement on his show.
I think he did the only thing that could take power away from the accused extortioner. (I don't think that's a word.) For that, I think it was the right thing to do.
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/3/2009 1:28:05 PM
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I agree Stella.
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/3/2009 1:29:59 PM
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I think what struck me most about this was the brazenness of Letterman's announcement on his show.
I think he did the only thing that could take power away from the accused extortioner. (I don't think that's a word.) For that, I think it was the right thing to do.
It also has the potential to defuse later leaks and speculation about who these women were. If it's all out in the open now, there's not as motivation for the public to go digging (though that may not hold true for people closer to the situation, such as bosses at CBS).
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/3/2009 2:24:05 PM
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(such as Palin's 14 yr. old daughter having sex with Alex Rodriguez) are tasteless
It would be nice if people would get their facts straight around here. Yes the joke was tastless, but it wasn't about the 14 yr old. He thought the older one was there) sheesh.
I find it interesting that some are holding himn accountable to God's laws when he's not even a believer? We're not to judge the unbeliever at all.
Speaking of facts :P
It's not about passing judgment on those outside the church, is about the church not having jurisdiction over nonbelievers...Of course most churches don't have jurisdiction over members... Declaring a person an unbelievers is a judgment and probably the most extreme judgment there is...
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/3/2009 5:17:29 PM
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It also has the potential to defuse later leaks and speculation about who these women were. If it's all out in the open now, there's not as motivation for the public to go digging (though that may not hold true for people closer to the situation, such as bosses at CBS).
There are other ways he could have done it. He could have made a bland statement through his lawyer. He didn't need to incorporate it into a comedic monologue.
On the other hand, crocodile tears would have been even more offensive.
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/3/2009 6:25:00 PM
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I saw the video where He admitted to having relationships with females at his job. The response of the audience? They thought it was funny, so they laughed. Pretty shocking in my opinion.
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I think at first they thought it was a joke, but then as he went on, he said some of the things in a more comedic manner than I would have. I think he did it on purpose.
I thought that was obvious. By the end of the 10 minute segment, nobody was laughing.
-Dan.
Only people thinking , ugh, I paid that much money for this?
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/3/2009 6:47:24 PM
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You don't pay for those tickets. They're free.
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 1:50:36 AM
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I don't fault the audience's reaction at all. They were completely blindsided. They came to the studio expecting a comedy show and I'm sure that's what most of them thought they were getting most of the way through the 10 minute monologue. Letterman often uses self-deprecating humor in his act, and you've probably got a one in a thousand chance of attending a show when he's actually being serious for once
No only that, but I saw the full monologue on YouTube, and no matter what you think of his behavior, it was a quite masterful performance in terms of disseminating the information that was going to come out anyway and in a way that didn't come across as fake or disingenuous. Governor Mark Sanford can only wish he'd handled the dissemination of his own infidelity half as well!
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 2:40:41 AM
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Hmmm... I guess that's why the audience seemed a bit sympathetic--off camera at least, since Letterman's usual style of self-effacing wit is a convenient, if not clever way of cover for admitting such transgressions... at least until past the 10th minute that is!
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I don't fault the audience's reaction at all. They were completely blindsided. They came to the studio expecting a comedy show and I'm sure that's what most of them thought they were getting most of the way through the 10 minute monologue. Letterman often uses self-deprecating humor in his act, and you've probably got a one in a thousand chance of attending a show when he's actually being serious for once
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 5:52:35 AM
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(such as Palin's 14 yr. old daughter having sex with Alex Rodriguez) are tasteless
It would be nice if people would get their facts straight around here. Yes the joke was tastless, but it wasn't about the 14 yr old. He thought the older one was there) sheesh.
I find it interesting that some are holding himn accountable to God's laws when he's not even a believer? We're not to judge the unbeliever at all.
How does that make his comment any better? He wasn't joking about the 14 year-old daughter of a politicain, he was joking about the 18-year old daughter? Yeah, that makes it classy - sheesh back atcha!
As for not judging unbelievers, how would you comment on this story about one non-believe blackmailing another non-believer? If you have no comment, why post?
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 1:15:25 PM
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(such as Palin's 14 yr. old daughter having sex with Alex Rodriguez) are tasteless
It would be nice if people would get their facts straight around here. Yes the joke was tastless, but it wasn't about the 14 yr old. He thought the older one was there) sheesh.
I find it interesting that some are holding himn accountable to God's laws when he's not even a believer? We're not to judge the unbeliever at all.
How does that make his comment any better? He wasn't joking about the 14 year-old daughter of a politicain, he was joking about the 18-year old daughter? Yeah, that makes it classy - sheesh back atcha!
As for not judging unbelievers, how would you comment on this story about one non-believe blackmailing another non-believer? If you have no comment, why post?
Because a lot of people weren't up in arms because he made the joke; they were up in arms because she was a minor. But he was still mistaken and corrected it when he realized it.
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 2:16:05 PM
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Just a bunch of rich Democrats. This Halderman fellow is stuck with 6 grand a month child and spousal support payments and has a girlfriend who was an employee of Letterman's and they met in the limo (?) for sex! Real classy Dave! Why not a Hotel room. It's not like a room for a hundred dollars is going to break your bank.
I don't judge Letterman because i believe a there is much legitimacy in the saying a man is as faithful as his options. When a man is rich and famous as is the case with Letterman then there is no shortage of women who will make themselves available to them. Letterman is a charmer. 62 yrs old and married and had heart surgery and he still has not learned to think from the neck up on these things.
Can't wait for the Television show to come out on this.
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 2:21:28 PM
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This Halderman fellow is stuck with 6 grand a month child and spousal support payments and has a girlfriend who was an employee of Letterman's and they met in the limo (?) for sex!
And that is an excuse to break the law???? I think not!
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 7:41:40 PM
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(such as Palin's 14 yr. old daughter having sex with Alex Rodriguez) are tasteless
It would be nice if people would get their facts straight around here. Yes the joke was tastless, but it wasn't about the 14 yr old. He thought the older one was there) sheesh.
I find it interesting that some are holding himn accountable to God's laws when he's not even a believer? We're not to judge the unbeliever at all.
How does that make his comment any better? He wasn't joking about the 14 year-old daughter of a politicain, he was joking about the 18-year old daughter? Yeah, that makes it classy - sheesh back atcha!
As for not judging unbelievers, how would you comment on this story about one non-believe blackmailing another non-believer? If you have no comment, why post?
Because a lot of people weren't up in arms because he made the joke; they were up in arms because she was a minor. But he was still mistaken and corrected it when he realized it.
Yes but the facts are straight, which stampinlady asserted were wrong. Even if he did confuse the older daughter with the younger, it was still out of bounds to joke about a someone's children. His personal and unprofessional vendetta against Sarah Palin led to an inappropriate remark that targeted her family. Those are the facts and nobody here has them wrong. Sheesh again!
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 10:04:42 PM
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And that is an excuse to break the law???? I think not!
Never printed it was and u need not put words in my mouth.
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 10:29:54 PM
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(such as Palin's 14 yr. old daughter having sex with Alex Rodriguez) are tasteless
It would be nice if people would get their facts straight around here. Yes the joke was tastless, but it wasn't about the 14 yr old. He thought the older one was there) sheesh.
I find it interesting that some are holding himn accountable to God's laws when he's not even a believer? We're not to judge the unbeliever at all.
How does that make his comment any better? He wasn't joking about the 14 year-old daughter of a politicain, he was joking about the 18-year old daughter? Yeah, that makes it classy - sheesh back atcha!
As for not judging unbelievers, how would you comment on this story about one non-believe blackmailing another non-believer? If you have no comment, why post?
Because a lot of people weren't up in arms because he made the joke; they were up in arms because she was a minor. But he was still mistaken and corrected it when he realized it.
Yes but the facts are straight, which stampinlady asserted were wrong. Even if he did confuse the older daughter with the younger, it was still out of bounds to joke about a someone's children. His personal and unprofessional vendetta against Sarah Palin led to an inappropriate remark that targeted her family. Those are the facts and nobody here has them wrong. Sheesh again!
Um, that's the way they all roll.  They make jokes about *people* and things. I do think joking about a minor isn't the best thing, but once they're adults, they're adults and fair game to them.
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/4/2009 11:38:47 PM
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(such as Palin's 14 yr. old daughter having sex with Alex Rodriguez) are tasteless
It would be nice if people would get their facts straight around here. Yes the joke was tastless, but it wasn't about the 14 yr old. He thought the older one was there) sheesh.
I find it interesting that some are holding himn accountable to God's laws when he's not even a believer? We're not to judge the unbeliever at all.
How does that make his comment any better? He wasn't joking about the 14 year-old daughter of a politicain, he was joking about the 18-year old daughter? Yeah, that makes it classy - sheesh back atcha!
As for not judging unbelievers, how would you comment on this story about one non-believe blackmailing another non-believer? If you have no comment, why post?
Because a lot of people weren't up in arms because he made the joke; they were up in arms because she was a minor. But he was still mistaken and corrected it when he realized it.
Yes but the facts are straight, which stampinlady asserted were wrong. Even if he did confuse the older daughter with the younger, it was still out of bounds to joke about a someone's children. His personal and unprofessional vendetta against Sarah Palin led to an inappropriate remark that targeted her family. Those are the facts and nobody here has them wrong. Sheesh again!
Um, that's the way they all roll. They make jokes about *people* and things. I do think joking about a minor isn't the best thing, but once they're adults, they're adults and fair game to them.
Well there's your incivility then.
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/5/2009 10:08:32 AM
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I am glad he didn't give in to his extortionist, but since he's the boss, couldn't he be guilty of sexual harassment? I wouldn't be surprised if one of those women didn't now pop up and file a suit against him...just sayin'
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/5/2009 10:18:46 AM
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I am glad he didn't give in to his extortionist, but since he's the boss, couldn't he be guilty of sexual harassment? I wouldn't be surprised if one of those women didn't now pop up and file a suit against him...just sayin'
Now that I agree with. Being an HR professional, I cringed like I had bitten into a lemon when I heard that part. And, it is something that was not a once or twice kinda deal. It has been going on for a while and there were a lot of women from what I heard this morning.
He is a HUGE risk to CBS. If I worked for them, even though he did not break any laws, he is putting the company at risk and I would be pushing to replace him.
As for the producer guy? Enjoy jail dude!
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/5/2009 11:46:50 AM
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I agree that he ought to be replaced, but I heard somewhere on the news this morning that his ratings jumped up after his "confession."
I don't like Letterman, never have. I occasionally read his "Top 10" and get a chuckle, but that's it. He's crass. He's a pervert. And the general tv audience loves it.
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I am glad he didn't give in to his extortionist, but since he's the boss, couldn't he be guilty of sexual harassment? I wouldn't be surprised if one of those women didn't now pop up and file a suit against him...just sayin'
Now that I agree with. Being an HR professional, I cringed like I had bitten into a lemon when I heard that part. And, it is something that was not a once or twice kinda deal. It has been going on for a while and there were a lot of women from what I heard this morning.
He is a HUGE risk to CBS. If I worked for them, even though he did not break any laws, he is putting the company at risk and I would be pushing to replace him.
As for the producer guy? Enjoy jail dude!
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RE: Letterman's Extrotion Case - 10/5/2009 12:23:17 PM
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(such as Palin's 14 yr. old daughter having sex with Alex Rodriguez) are tasteless
It would be nice if people would get their facts straight around here. Yes the joke was tastless, but it wasn't about the 14 yr old. He thought the older one was there) sheesh.
I find it interesting that some are holding himn accountable to God's laws when he's not even a believer? We're not to judge the unbeliever at all.
How does that make his comment any better? He wasn't joking about the 14 year-old daughter of a politicain, he was joking about the 18-year old daughter? Yeah, that makes it classy - sheesh back atcha!
As for not judging unbelievers, how would you comment on this story about one non-believe blackmailing another non-believer? If you have no comment, why post?
Because a lot of people weren't up in arms because he made the joke; they were up in arms because she was a minor. But he was still mistaken and corrected it when he realized it.
Yes but the facts are straight, which stampinlady asserted were wrong. Even if he did confuse the older daughter with the younger, it was still out of bounds to joke about a someone's children. His personal and unprofessional vendetta against Sarah Palin led to an inappropriate remark that targeted her family. Those are the facts and nobody here has them wrong. Sheesh again!
Um, that's the way they all roll. They make jokes about *people* and things. I do think joking about a minor isn't the best thing, but once they're adults, they're adults and fair game to them.
Well there's your incivility then.
No name-calling, no personal attacks. I guess if seeing things differently is incivil, no one is going to be civil to everyone else.  Have a good day.
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