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Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, daughte... - 10/4/2009 9:48:30 AM
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CommonSense549
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Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, daughter, or spouse?
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 9:54:24 AM
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Yes.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 10:13:55 AM
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Yep.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 10:23:17 AM
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I can only agree with what has been said already.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 10:39:29 AM
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Another vote for yes and when you do, the love for family is stronger.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 11:12:57 AM
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Without question.....
Notice the first set of laws handed to Moses were all about one's duty to God, second set were towards fellow man...
Jesus followed with the same, summing them up with two commands.... First, love God with all your heart and second, love your neighbor like yourself...
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 12:11:35 PM
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Supposed to? Yes. Does your free will remain in tact? Again yes.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 12:16:05 PM
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Supposed to? Yes. Does your free will remain in tact? Again yes.
What does that mean?
I accept Jesus as my Lord and savior. I learn to love him. But, if even after I accept him I struggle and am unable to find it in my heart to love Jesus more than a certain family member who means the world to me, I end up in hell?
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 12:33:50 PM
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Who said you were going to hell? You asked if you were supposed to love the Lord more than your family. The answer is yes.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 12:53:15 PM
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Who said you were going to hell? You asked if you were supposed to love the Lord more than your family. The answer is yes.
I'm bringing up the topic of hell.
“He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."
If Jesus said that, wouldn't it mean that I go to hell if I don't manage to love him more than anything else?
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 1:12:38 PM
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You see this is what, among many other things, that is wrong with the teaching in church today. People end up thinking that being a Disciple is about avoiding hell and going to heaven. Avoid this this this and this you go to heaven. Do this this this and this you go to hell.
First you must understand that love is a decision. You decide that you are going to love Jesus more than your family. If your family it's them or Jesus, who will you choose?
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 1:17:19 PM
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Do this this this and this you go to hell.
Regardless of whether you think it's wrong for me to be afraid of spending eternity watching my bones sizzling and crackling under red flames, I need answers to my questions.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 1:22:43 PM
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First you must understand that love is a decision. You decide that you are going to love Jesus more than your family. If your family it's them or Jesus, who will you choose?
I'm talking theory here. I've only just started to learn about Christianity and am considering it. I'm just trying to get a sense for what it's about.
Here's the way I see it: I'm not sure if I could learn to love a supernatural being I haven't seen before more than my family. Sure, I could be submissive to him and learn to be obedient, even if that meant choosing to follow his will over the good of my family. That's one thing. But learning to hold him closer to my heart than I do my family is something I'm not so sure about.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 1:46:12 PM
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Here is a simple way to look at it. If you had to choose between being with that person and having a relationship with Adonai, what would you do. Many a parent and/or spouse has discovered that the person they have fellings for has done horrible things and is unrepentant. Is it really loving that person to continue one's relationship with that person just as before? If one can not abide another's relationship with Yeshua, that is an indication that that person does not know the difference between loving someone and having feelings for them.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 1:52:31 PM
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There's a difference in types of loves. To love God more than your family does not mean to have ooey gooey feelings towards Him. Love is a choice, and to love God more than anyone else is to put His will and His honor as the first thing in your life. It doesn't mean that you'd rather snuggle up to an invisible deity over cuddling with your child or your spouse.
Basically, if you don't make God the first priority of your life, then He's not Lord of your life, and you are not His follower. Hence, you aren't saved.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 2:03:14 PM
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Basically, if you don't make God the first priority of your life, then He's not Lord of your life, and you are not His follower. Hence, you aren't saved.
There we go. That's what I'm wondering.
So, is that it? Is it possible for someone to hold their love their family more and to hold their family closer to their heart while still holding god as their first priority, value, and devotion? Can I live like that without being sinful?
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 2:15:59 PM
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Ok....keep this in mind. God does not expect you to change everything 100% at the time of your salvation. It is just not going to happen. It is a process, or a journey.
Are we supposed to love God more than anyone else? Yes. Does it take time to get to that point, or stay there, in our own lives? Of course it does! You just keep asking questions. That is how you learn and grow as a Christian.
As far as living without being sinful...it is what we should strive for. There are no excused for sin. However, we do have a gracious God who forgives if we repent. Again, it is a growth process. We are never to stop growing!
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 4:35:58 PM
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Here's the way I see it: I'm not sure if I could learn to love a supernatural being I haven't seen before more than my family. Here's the way I see it... you're a new Christian (I think given you say you're just learning about Christianity)... just continue to love your family as you always have and learn to love the Lord and grow in your faith and stop worrying about whether you will ever love Him more than a member of your family.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 5:33:22 PM
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Love of God comes first because it is through this love that we can best love and care for our family.
Firsrt of the two great commandments: Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strenth--and LIKE UNTO IT--love your neighbor as yourself.
Jesus said, I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother..."Mt10:34-40. It would be good to read that Scripture in context.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 5:38:40 PM
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Is there a black or white answer as to whether you'll end up in hell or not for loving the lord less than your family, or is it one of those more vague things?
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 5:52:16 PM
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Is there a black or white answer as to whether you'll end up in hell or not for loving the lord less than your family, or is it one of those more vague things?
Are you born again?
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 5:58:39 PM
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Is there a black or white answer as to whether you'll end up in hell or not for loving the lord less than your family, or is it one of those more vague things?
Are you born again?
Me personally? Not yet. Maybe never. I'm considering it.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 6:01:57 PM
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Is there a black or white answer as to whether you'll end up in hell or not for loving the lord less than your family, or is it one of those more vague things?
Are you born again?
Me personally? Not yet. Maybe never. I'm considering it.
Ok then, that changes things. You can not do ANYTHING that will gain you salvation. You can not love God enough. You can not do enough ministry. You can not be sinless. Nobody can.
Salvation is a free gift, given to us through Jesus, by God. If there is anything at all we can do to earn salvation, Jesus' sacrifice would not mean anything and would not have had to occur.
The Bible is clear. The only way to God, and to heaven, is to be born again. If you are not, there is nothing at all you can say or do that is gonna get you through those pearly gates.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 6:04:04 PM
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The Bible is clear. The only way to God, and to heaven, is to be born again. If you are not, there is nothing at all you can say or do that is gonna get you through those pearly gates.
Oh, I'm well aware of that. I learned it a long time ago. The point of this thread is me talking from the imaginary perspective of myself being a born again christian. I want to get a feel for how I'll have to change my life if I choose to move towards that point. And I need answers.
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RE: Am I supposed to love the lord more than a son, dau... - 10/4/2009 6:09:22 PM
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Ok....I'll play along....
.....same answers apply. If you are truly born again, and constantly growing in your relationship with God, the love you need to have for Him will grow and it will not be an issue. You will learn to love God more than anyone and anything. And Him loving you will allow you to love your family/friends even more than you do now.
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