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RE: Engaged couple living together - 10/20/2009 10:32:52 PM
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buckifn
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Yes, the church ignores sin esp sexual sin and one of the horrible aspects of sexual sin abortion.
The blood of innocent babies is crying out for justice and one day will receive it.
Don't ever think just because a man/woman in the church is not taking a stand that God won't.
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RE: Engaged couple living together - 10/28/2009 4:10:47 PM
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KaptZ
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Pray for them and leave them be.
Amen.
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RE: Engaged couple living together - 11/3/2009 2:10:58 AM
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cwb
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If it's you, is the Holy Spirit saying anything to you?
If someone else, maybe not worry too much about it. Ask them if the Holy Spirit is saying anything to THEM about it, then let the church leadership handle the issue.
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We are to do the will of God from our heart. Eph Ch 6 v. 6
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RE: Engaged couple living together - 11/3/2009 1:19:43 PM
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allisonbrett
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I did not read this entire thread, so please forgive me if this has already been addressed...
Is it known for sure that the girl and her fiance are having sex outside of marriage? She may have asked for birth control, but maybe her periods are tough? I am not sticking up for her, BUT I am 27 and I have had absolutely terrible periods ever since I was about 12. I went on the pill ONLY to help my cycle so I would not get sick. With that said, I just went off the pill because they were making me feel naseous, so I decided taking Mydol once a month would be just fine ;-) Maybe this is why she wanted them?
Second, is it wrong for an engaged couple to live together if they are not sexually active? Perhaps they are living together to save money and do not actually sleep in the same bed at night. Just a thought. Like I said, I didn't read this entire post so forgive me if I am bringing up something that has already been discussed :-) I hope the young lady and her fiance realize that God's plan for a marriage is sacred. Let's pray that their hearts are open to this :-)
Just to bring you up to speed... yes, we know that they are living together and sleeping together. They know where we stand yet are determined to do things their way. They have, for the most part avoided us as they know where we stand. They have other family members who are also in ministry that refuse to address the situation. Other family members who are perfectly ok with the arrangements.
This young couple are members and active in their church and Sunday school and while we don't know for sure we believe that other members/pastoral staff are unaware of the living arrangements. Her grandfather is an ordained minister (and the one to marry them next June) was planning on speaking to them but has been forbidden by his wife (her grandmother) and told to stay out of it. Personally, as a minister I feel they are failing this couple by not saying anything. I believe their refusal to stand up and speak out of sin is in itself sin on their part. My husband and I are so disappointed that we are the only ones calling them on their sinful lifestyle.
As to your question about living together even while remaining sexually pure, scripture tells us to abstain from all appearances of sin so living together would be giving the impression of sex outside of marriage. It gives the appearance of sin as well and ruins any witness they may have.
This past Sunday we attended their church. The pastor preached about sin and character being a Christian. The fiance' spoke to us very briefly then walked out which is very unusual for him. My step-daughter was working and not there. I hate that she missed the sermon. I believe it may have spoken to her. We continue to pray for conviction for them. He was obviously not comfortable.
edited to add... be in prayer. My husband is hoping to be able to talk to his daughter alone this afternoon. Pray that the Holy Spirit can work through him to bring about conviction on her part. We pray that they will either separate or just get married.
< Message edited by allisonbrett -- 11/3/2009 1:32:52 PM >
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